Dawn of Witchcraft, it is time now.

Originally posted by thruthseek3r

Originally posted by wildtimes
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Nothing you are aware of but did you grand master witch or coven leader tell you the truth as to what you truly worship in the backside? I am sure she did not and this is exactly why witchcraft is wrong, because of what you truly worship but that you are definitely unaware of.

Whatever.

I'm very sure of what I was taught and what I'm aware of - and it has NOTHING to do with 'satan'......or 'hell'.......
your 'rant' is coming unraveled.

And it was a "he." It isn't "wrong" when people are communing with nature......
:shk:

But, I don't expect people like you to actually look into it - you're all too worried about the fictitious "hell" - and don't even bother to look into where THAT notion came from.
Sad.

edit on 13-8-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)

Some people consider hell as being the earth itself considering the stars and space to be the heaven. I am more a believer that hell is deeper inside the earth where things are happening just as they happen here on the "ground level".



Thruthseek3r

Wait... you literally believe there is a hell physically under our feet? Is that really something Christians believe? I thought that was just like a point of reference so you have a direction to nod towards when talking about it. But you really believe that?

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It's too close in front of you then, you'll never see it.

Originally posted by rawheroine
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It's too close in front of you then, you'll never see it.

All the more reason for you to explain it then. Pretty please? With cherries?

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
so, NOW We Know...

On the haunted part, I can confirm as I currently am hunted by nasty spirits trying to make me commit sins and becoming impure, they love it, but in no way I get back in witchcraft or will in any way, this is a real curse.

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You got a few boogers after you! Nasty Spirits? Trying to make you do impure things?

Don't blame demons,, maybe it is just who you are,, ,,, and that is OK,,,

Now if you DO have some Entities after you,, What did you Summon?

Again,, seems as if you haven't given up your quest for Magick yet..

Exorcists can help you,, if nothing more than psychologically,, maybe you should visit one and remind him to get the One that is Pushing You to Exterminate Witches...... This is your most Troublesome Demon.
Those kind of Nasty spirits need to be dealt with ,,, and if you are not capable, I know some who are and would gladly rid you of this Avenging Demon that is pestering you so deeply to cause you to believe you are a One Man Ninja Show against all Witches.

We survived the Witches Hammer before,,

My guess is I might have a Succubus and an Incubus after me and it's been a while. I tried to mentally to tell them to go away for quite some time, but it seems they just come back in random moments. Another entity I think is a poltergeist which seems to be hitting things in my apartment when it is quite silent.

If you know anything about this please let me know.



Thruthseek3r

Originally posted by ripcontrol
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A cursed and wrong Ideology

Actually cute little jab on the assumed



Again what you know...

Apparently nothing.. I see glib links no meat
I see someone who is scared because he got in over their head
I someone who was a dabbler


Let me share a small crossover event for your
You failed because you quit
Same thing is gonna happen with your Prison style conversion to Christianity

You lack the self discipline necessary for a Witch..
You faith in god is untested as well
Are you gonna convert to another when this fails you as well?


How interesting

You still have not given your Definition of magic and avoid it

The others here are disturbed because you hint at extermination of people for a belief system and not for actions



I am not disturbed I just feel pity for you
Apparently your dogma got ran over by your Karma


For the record it is not the dawn of magic


Out of curiosity
You and a group of friends just sat down and tried to do spells

After all if your experienced you will answer this one easily...

Not quite because of the belief system, but simply because of what results in the practice of witchcraft which were carefully explained in previous posts, it's pure and simple.



Thruthseek3r

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by thruthseek3r

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by thruthseek3r

 

Nothing you are aware of but did you grand master witch or coven leader tell you the truth as to what you truly worship in the backside? I am sure she did not and this is exactly why witchcraft is wrong, because of what you truly worship but that you are definitely unaware of.

Whatever.

I'm very sure of what I was taught and what I'm aware of - and it has NOTHING to do with 'satan'......or 'hell'.......
your 'rant' is coming unraveled.

And it was a "he." It isn't "wrong" when people are communing with nature......
:shk:

But, I don't expect people like you to actually look into it - you're all too worried about the fictitious "hell" - and don't even bother to look into where THAT notion came from.
Sad.

edit on 13-8-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)

Some people consider hell as being the earth itself considering the stars and space to be the heaven. I am more a believer that hell is deeper inside the earth where things are happening just as they happen here on the "ground level".



Thruthseek3r

Wait... you literally believe there is a hell physically under our feet? Is that really something Christians believe? I thought that was just like a point of reference so you have a direction to nod towards when talking about it. But you really believe that?

edit on 14-8-2013 by Cuervo because: spellin' schmellin'

Not quite the hell as it is described in the bible, but being a believer in heaven and hell, I believe hell would be under us but not quite in the 3rd dimension as we currently experience it.



Thruthseek3r

Originally posted by thruthseek3r

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by thruthseek3r

Originally posted by onequestion
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Why are people into witchcraft? I get controlling some aspect of the universe is cool and gives you a small sense of being of what you could possibly be but, what is the end game and where is it taking you?

Even after playing with alchemy and other CRAP, i have found out a few things, FAITH is still the ultimate trump card in all of this nonsense. Faith in what? No idea, just have it, undefined see how it works.

Faith can help, but the thing is it has a bad connotation sometimes because it is linked with some religion and it had been so much abused in so called "power games" in order to keep away people to reach their true potential and this is what witchcraft is about, dellusion and control to prevent you from reaching the best you can truly become as a person.

Thruthseek3r

Exclusionist ideology with its own flavour of sinister sauce...faith-based...whatever...the machinery operates equally well without the bobble-head name on the forehead game of divide and conquer...so you fell over ice-skating and got your fingers scuffed by a passing blade, poor thingy...grow up and the bogey man under the bed disappears (faith/fear based)...take charge, you do have the means and the wherewithall and the observational acumen to put these pieces together...just don't put them together (like jigsaw pieces cut from the same die) to create a Heironymous Bosch painting, that confirms your fear ...jigsaw makers around the world will go out of business!

Å99

I would like to state that this is not a game, life is not a game I certainly do not adhere to this philosophy. Thinking of everything I could do of some sort as an operation definitely is not the thing and you are very well mistaken if you think of my thoughts as such.

As to what you consider I do "fear", could you be more specific in the matter as I need clarification on the claim you made.

Thruthseek3r

...to be specific, you 'fear' your own thoughtforms that chase you...

Philosophy, ideology or the way things are? The mechanism operates whether you believe it or not (is independant of belief) because it is how we are made, we cannot escape it, either way...your choice is simple, take responsibility, or utilise the mechanism to create (perhaps in unison) the scapegoat/s that make you feel warm and fuzzy and righteous inside (there's POWER for you...the power to feel righteous)...

Now, I know, the OP was some sort of shout out to invisible enemies (that could have looked/felt/embodied) any ideology as nominated...this was perhaps better done on your knees in front of cross with the image of a crucified man - self flaggelating the sins of whatever ideology you could have nominated...adjusting the hair-shirt and thigh-pinch...on the one hand, dismissive...and on the other, presumtuous in its naivety...

No-one's stopping you from buying the soporific (it's a two-fer-one deal!)...I think most are just pinching your hips to keep you awake...after all, the dream is so much more comforting...I wouldn't want to wake up either...but the wood needs to be chopped, and the water needs to be gathered...that needs attention...any waylain attention performs the task relevant to that attention...where do you want to go today? You pit that direction as the only direction (independant of mechanism) and you are in danger of not only fooling yourself (which you are quite welcome to do) but, acting as just another pied piper leading lemmings off a cliff...

If you are sooo sure...good, there would be no need to involve (in this case, witchcraft) in some holier-than-thou mudslinging competition...

'Game-play's' a good one...consider the games you can play with yourself...looking in mirrors, selective memory game etc...you're only ever playing those 'games' with yourself, unless you assume the hieghts (or lows, whatever) of being able to influence (manipulation game) many around you...hopefully not to the detriment of your followers/brethren/religious coven...invisible internet audience...when you turn the interwebs off, puter off...we wont be here/there...you will...

You can call it whatever you like...rose is a rose blah blah blah...websters definition notwithstanding...

Good luck with the navigation.

Å99

Originally posted by rawheroine
Anyone here who's claiming that "magick" etc. is just a fun little HELPFUL pasttime is either 1) not getting it, 2) not taking it seriously, or 3) lying. Sorry!
You are not helping anyone. You are attempting to control others, which is a violation of their free will and life path, unless they have some sort of active contract with you that both of you can review if needed. Your actions reflect poorly on your intentions, so if you DO actually have good intentions, it would be wise to remove your tentacles from other people's lives.
Here's a substitute - sharing information. If you consider yourself a witch, pagan, alchemist, or something along those lines, and want to "HELP" someone - recommend a book or a website to that person about the subject!

This is just the tip of iceberg. There's more information on how the pineal gland fits into all of this, but..........

www.cds.hawaii.edu...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Goodnight.

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I don't know anything about witchcraft. How does it work? I'm interested!

Originally posted by thruthseek3r
The evidence would be there, but my theory because why almost nobody would see such a thing is because it is outside of the realm of the physical view capacity of the human eye. simply put, we can not see x-rays, ultra-violet, infrared and so on.

If you cannot see it, then what the heck are you talking about? You haven't seen it.
If you can see it, then it is viewable. You can't choose both.
If you daydream and see it, its just a daydream...I can daydream flying coffee cups, doesn't mean there is a mystical dimension with flying coffee cup creatures.
So...why go on about something that cannot be seen and measured and pretend its something valid to discuss and take action on?
Can we also add in that we must stop the flying invisible coffee cup invasion while we are at it?

According to physic the world has 11 dimensions. I will not get deeper on this topic as many theories are out there, some stating more than 11 but the string theory according the Michio Kaku works, a theoritical physicist, it leans toward this way, but it is a theory, we must not forget this very fact.

I am aware of the string hypothesis, it has become a catch all for every single unproven random thought of mystical power because it is simply a mathematical hypothesis verses anything truly understood.
May be a dimension where gravity works in reverse, or spoon people rule, etc...Simple fact is, we simply cannot understand a different dimension, because we have no reference outside of our own...so adding in just a mirror image of our own dimension and giving it magic is not actually what the hypothetical dimensions is discussing. I have familiarized myself quite extensively in quantum physics and the string "theory" and outside of the math, the dimension talk is not something within our current ability to truly comprehend.
It would be like trying to understand loud silence, or the sense of vorblat (aka, some sense we have no real ability to comprehend due to our missing...vorblatis)

Is witchcraft really something which could be proven scientifically?

When it is, it is then understood as simple science. gunpowder, red dye, illusions, etc.

Listen, its cool you are interested in trying to see if there is any true magic in the universe...just don't suddenly freak yourself out at the thought. If you truly experience something, try to record it somehow...try to first prove before assuming any intent on it.

After all, visions may simply be (probably is) the sign of a overactive imagination.

So what does Protestantism and such count as?

I'll try and explain something....

Satan always has copied Gods ideas. So for example God number is 777. Satans is 666. God's star is the star of david which represents balance between heaven and earth. Satans is the penagram which represents imbalance. God sent his son (the son Godhead), Satan will send his son the Antichrist,

now.... God has it's churches. ie: Catholics and Protestants, then within each there's a lot of factions.

Satan has his Churches which are all run by the same evil spiritual power! A bunch of deceived factions (churches / religions)! Even satanists are taught that the actual spiritual character of "the devil" is a lie. They're motto is "do as thou wilt", and don't worry about anything to do with who actually runs it. Can you believe that?? They're called Satanists but they don't believe in an actual satan. That to me is the epitome of deception.

But again All of them are deceived but also run by Satan which include:

Illuminati
Free masons
Witchcraft
Morons
JW's
False religions of all sorts
Satanists
Skull and Bones
etc etc etc.....

Again it's just satan copying Gods ideas. Good vs Evil. That's all it is.

So witches, they believe in so many goofy ideas. All this mother nature BS, magical powers, spiritual beings, etc etc that goes along with it, it's all a form of deception to understanding the true power behind it, which is Satan and demons. Plain and simple. The same power that is behind all the other religions I mentioned.

Again all it is is Satan copying God's ideas. that's it.

This thread needs more witch house.


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Originally posted by spartacus699

So witches, they believe in so many goofy ideas. All this mother nature BS, magical powers, spiritual beings, etc etc that goes along with it, it's all a form of deception to understanding the true power behind it, which is Satan and demons.

Yes. As opposed to the very sane and non-BS of being good shepherds to nature, prayer power, holy ghosts, etc.

My goodness, this thread is starting to make me think that there are quite a few Christians out there that are really just confused pagans.

I'm sorry to say this Truthseeker, but I don't think you have a clue about what witchcraft/wicca/paganism/shamanism and such like is all about.
It's not about controlling people or events, nor is it about doing harm or serving the "Dark Lord" or whatever else you choose to call it. It's about connecting with nature in all its forms and learning from it, growing spiritually and using its energies to help yourself and to help others.
I'm married to a witch and she is the most loving, caring, and wonderful person in the world. She wouldn't nor could she harm any living thing from a fly to a elephant or a fellow human being. She's vegan and is a very active animal rights campaigner....does that sound like the evil witches you speak of? Please go and research properly before spouting more brainwashed rubbish....

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Nice speach bub. But you are decades late and it is not in your power. Oh and I'm a pagan.

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by spartacus699

So witches, they believe in so many goofy ideas. All this mother nature BS, magical powers, spiritual beings, etc etc that goes along with it, it's all a form of deception to understanding the true power behind it, which is Satan and demons.

Yes. As opposed to the very sane and non-BS of being good shepherds to nature, prayer power, holy ghosts, etc.

My goodness, this thread is starting to make me think that there are quite a few Christians out there that are really just confused pagans.

Witches have powers. I'm sure of it. And I'm sure from time to time it works. But I think realistically it's the wrong power source. They're tapping into evil that's deceptive in nature. Just my opinion but it's a waste of time.

Truthseeker3r

We have gone from the matriachial pagan world, magic and a close association with the mother planet and in some cultures human sacrifice for the good of all to where we are today.

We now live in a paternal religious world with 2000 year old 'miracles', not seen since that time - but not magic though. An utter disregard for the actual husbandry of our planet, to a world of massacre and maining purely due to whichever religion you follow and we still have in some backward countries public stonings to death which undoubtedly prove the only recreation available. We also have at the top of our religious tree a base sexual depravity which shocks all and preys on the weakest, am I not right (purely put in the same vein as you have started this thread).

Perhaps before you condem something you clearly know nothing about, except religious hysteria - brought about because other people dare to think for themselves and not bend to your dogma you ought to simply get a copy of a document called The Wiccan Rede. Its a charming, non threatening and enlightened way to lead your life. It also respects other people's beliefs which you, clearly do not.

Originally posted by thruthseek3r
I now tell you that in former life from now on, I oppose any kind of witchcraft and I will fight with my heart at it's deepest level in order to stop it any way whatever the cost may be. I learned how bad it is, how it is corrupting our own soul and so it must be prevented to do any further damage to the human race, yet there is still some hope.

DOOFUS, so you OPPOSE witchcraft, what about when it can be used to help others? eh?
Anyone who comes out with such nonsense is now called a religious extremist, so I'm calling you out, PROVE witchcraft is bad as you call it and I'll admit I'm wrong.

What a clown

I see the word "shamanism" always being loosely referred to as Native American tradition. I once met a Native American woman who explained to me that there are NO Native American medicine people who ever use the word "shamanism" nor do they refer to themselves as "shaman". Shaman is a term that was coined in the hippie era in reference to Native medicine man. A real medicine person for their tribe will never call themselves a shaman.

Sorry, I just felt a need to say that in order to clear up the ignorance.

Originally posted by thruthseek3r
It is not about genocide, it is about stopping the dark and occult rituals, stop magick, stop the sacrifice and the many cults here in this world, this is what it is all about.

There is evil in this world, and there are people who are doing evil things with magick, however you must learn to discern who practices these things, and I can tell you with much assurance that Wiccans do not practice this type of magick. I used to be Wiccan, we do not believe in hurting other people. We simply DO NOT ever because there is the law of 3. And although I am no longer a Wiccan, I still believe in the law of 3.

You can't stop evil by simply killing it either. You have to overcome it within your own spirit and your mind. Evil has no influence over people who refuse it. That's my personal opinion.

If you feel attacked, then draw a circle of light around yourself and pray, and say that nothing evil can enter into that circle of light around yourself, and continue saying it. Know that you are protected.