Video Proof Of Obama And Acorn - Advice Needed, Is This Proof Of A Lie And Impeachable Offense?

Bill Clinton was strung up by his feet over a lie. Or was the big deal more about the affair? I would also like to know why no one did anything about this particular video showing Obama and his Acorn relationship. This was from a while ago, and I really can't find any mention of this video and lie on ATS either.

I need some advice on this folks... . I mean it looks to me like he was caught lying, but it was ignored?

Here is the MSNBC debate that Obama says that he was not active in ACORN. Please watch at the 1 min 50 second mark.


Now watch this video:

reply to post by elouina


Clinton was impeached for Perjury, and Obstruction of Justice, not lying.

Lying isn't a crime unless it's under oath in a court proceeding, especially for a politician who's entire career is made up of lies.

This might help, you seem to be very confused about what is an impeachable offense, and what is treason. Might I suggest you take some time and read this.

www.archives.gov...

reply to post by HauntWok


So I gather that Obama is allowed to lie to the American public then. Thank you for explaining this. But what about his activities in ACORN? This has to count for something. This seemed to be what the oversight committee was most concerned with. How come they didn't do anything about this?

What's with the obsession with ACORN? We're talking about an organisation that doesn't even exist any more.

reply to post by elouina


If lying to the American people was an impeachable offence, they should have hung George W Bush!
Some will say we should still do this anyway.

Let me pass on a tip: if a politicians mouth is moving - he is lying about something.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


Oh they still exist!

The connections between these groups and the old ACORN groups include: having the same physical location, sharing leadership or staff or having the same tax ID number. “For some of these groups, all they did was legally change their name. Nothing else changed. The corporate structure, leadership and staff are the same,” said Karen Groen Olea, Cause of Action’s chief counsel.

Yeah ACORN still exists there not going any where as long as Obama's in charge.

link

reply to post by elouina

So I gather that Obama is allowed to lie to the American public then.

Yep, sure is, 1st Amendment baby, USA, USA, USA!

This seemed to be what the oversight committee was most concerned with. How come they didn't do anything about this?

en.wikipedia.org...

ACORN lost all federal funding, they operate under another name now, but no tax dollars fund them.

And the reason they lost federal funding was due to a lie by an "investigative reporter" who used a very heavily edited video to distort the truth about what ACORN does.

The congressional hearings that came about were the fallout from that media side trip. Obama was in no way shape or form connected with it.

Of course this is a scandal that is several years old at this point and has no bearing or relevance today.

reply to post by HauntWok


You obviously didn't read my link.

They are still federally funded.

edit to add
It seems that all of the Obama scandals are irrelevant to you. Your messiah can do no wrong.

reply to post by Diisenchanted


No, their affiliates are still federally funded. ACORN is gone, yes the people that ran it still exist, and they have found jobs in other similar agencies, but the organization called ACORN is gone. Yes, there are affiliates of ACORN that exist. And that is why they still use the same locations, same tax ID numbers etc.

The people that worked for ACORN aren't just going to completely disappear because the organization they worked for no longer exists. What, did you expect these people to go out to the street and commit Seppuku? Is that what was expected of them?

"They were shamed by a fake video, and some of their employees committed voter registration fraud! We demand their blood run in the streets for this outrage! How can they have the unmitigated GAUL to continue to live with this shame!?"

edit to add
It seems that all of the Obama scandals are irrelevant to you. Your messiah can do no wrong.

The only people on Earth that call Obama "the messiah" are Sean Hannity and the people that parrott everything he says. Please learn to think for yourself instead of letting an opinion show host dictate what you think.

reply to post by HauntWok


Sorry it was Rush that called him the messiah!

You are still deflecting to cover up some lies that are just to big for you or your messiah to cover.

The link I posted clearly names two organizations that came directly from ACORN that are still receiving federal funds.

edit to add

also what about the fact that they are still using ACORN BIN numbers.

By the way I don't listen to Sean Hannity. If you are such a free thinker why deflect with bullsnip?

reply to post by Diisenchanted


It doesn't matter, that's the problem here.

Politicians do lie. It's a prerequisite for the job. Obama lies, I'm not defending it, or trying to say that it's right, it's just the fact of the matter.

The organization called ACORN is gone. Yes, just like if a bank went under and another bank took over it's accounts and contracts. This is just how it goes.

As they were defunded over a complete right wing lie against them. I don't see what the problem is here.

reply to post by HauntWok


Here is some more information to prove that ACORN is not gone! Like I said before ACORN is not going any where as long as Obama is in charge.

This is a pdf from judicial watch that explains who ACRON was, and who ACORN still is

link to pdf

This report is quite telling.

Edit to add I know that Obama lies if he is talking he is lying. It has been that way since day one. He lied about his affiliation with ACORN and The New Party in the first place

reply to post by HauntWok


It's 'legal' to lie as long as you don't lie to a federal agent and / or under oath.

1st Amendment vs Legislative codes.

a lie is a lie is a lie is a lie.



Here's some interesting things about Obama.

One is that he actually helped the housing bubble get started

Hmmm.....

1994: Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank

As WND reported, in 1994, Obama, a graduate of Harvard Law School then fresh from his Project Vote! experience, represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank case, in which ACORN pressed for Citibank to make more loans to marginally qualified African-American applicants “in a race neutral way.”

After obtaining a settlement in the Citibank litigation, ACORN used its subsidiary organization ACORN Housing, a nationwide organization with offices in more than 30 U.S. cities, to push the group’s radical agenda to get subprime home buyers mortgages under the most favorable terms possible.

and of course, Obama said that his buddy Bill Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood too

1995: ACORN attorney in Illinois lawsuit

In 1995, Obama was hired as a lawyer for ACORN in a major lawsuit. As a lawyer with civil-rights law firm Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, he sued the state of Illinois on behalf of ACORN to implement the federal “motor voter” law.

Also in 1995, as WND’s Jerome Corsi reported, Bill Ayers co-founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge with a $50 million grant program for the Chicago public schools. Ayers selected Obama to be the first chairman of the board of the Annenberg Challenge, a position Obama held for eight years, until 2003, a period during which Ayers remained active with the Challenge.

In his Wall Street Journal article, Stanley Kurtz wrote that the Annenberg project funneled money through various far-left community organizers, including ACORN.

from Sept 2009;
Unearthed! Obama's twisted ACORN roots

reply to post by xuenchen


xuenchen, WND as a source isn't a good thing, It's just like using the Weekly World News or the National Enquirer as a source. These are the same people who believe that Obama was born in Kenya for crying out loud.

I'm sure that batboy completely corroborated this story and it was confirmed with the tooth fairy.

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by xuenchen

 

xuenchen, WND as a source isn't a good thing, It's just like using the Weekly World News or the National Enquirer as a source. These are the same people who believe that Obama was born in Kenya for crying out loud.

I'm sure that batboy completely corroborated this story and it was confirmed with the tooth fairy.

Here's a history lesson for ya....

Chicago Annenberg Challenge

William Ayers, associate professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago; co-director of the Small Schools Workshop; co-director of the Chicago Forum for School Change—an affiliate of the Coalition of Essential Schools;[19] chairman of the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) coalition;[20][21] former Chicago assistant deputy mayor for education (1989–1990);[21] brother of John Ayers, executive director (1994–2004) of Leadership for Quality Education (an affiliate of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago) and former associate director (1987–1994) of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago; son of Thomas Ayers, former president (1964–1980), chairman and CEO (1973–1980) of Commonwealth Edison and former vice president (1980) of the Chicago School Board

The founding Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as announced in 1995 were:[38][39]

Patricia Albjerg Graham

Barack Obama, civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland; lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School; member of the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation and the Woods Fund of Chicago; winner, Crain's Chicago Business 40 Under 40 award, 1993; former president of the Harvard Law Review (1990–1991); former executive director of the Developing Communities Project (June 1985–May 1988); current President of the United States[24][40][41][42]...........................

and more required reading; The Wreck of the Annenberg


Ayers and Obama managed to sift millions from the 'project'.

All for the common good of course

Oh dear, Old Fox, are you trying to stir up trouble again? World Nut Daily.... tut tut, I expected better from you!

reply to post by HauntWok


More from the tooth fairy.....

Woods Fund Could Become Obama's 'Swift Boat'

But first Sen. Obama has begun with Sen. Clinton, noting during the debate that her husband, former President Bill Clinton, during the last days of his administration, commuted the sentences of two Weather Underground members, including Susan Rosenberg, who was involved in the 1981 heist of a Brinks armored truck in New York that left two policemen dead.

and;

The Woods Fund has given sizable grants to ACORN; AGAPE Youth Development; Grassroots Collaborative (for American Friends Service Committee); the Arab American Action Network; the Center for Community Change; the Midwest Academy; the Nature Conservancy; the Proteus Fund; and the Tides Foundation and the Tides Center.

Pajamas Media reports that during the time that Barack Obama sat on the Woods Fund's board, the Fund awarded grants of $45,000 (2000), $30,000 (2001), $45,000 (2001), $30,000 (2002), and $40,000 (2002) to ACORN.
Woods Fund - Obama and Ayers

lots of info in this old thread www.abovetopsecret.com...


and, another Wild rumor here; www.abovetopsecret.com...

to be continued.....

The Bombshell that has Yet to be analyzed ....

But soon will be.
The possible way Obama became THEE "Puppet" of all puppets


October 20, 1981

Brinks robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car near Nyack, New York. The robbers murdered 2 police officers and 1 Brinks guard. Several others were wounded.


from October 2008

It’s 1981, New York City. Barack Obama is residing two blocks away from Weather Underground leader William Ayers. We know very little about Obama’s life in NYC during that period; supposedly he transferred from Occidental College and completed undergraduate studies at Columbia University. Obama’s academic records and, in fact, the records of his life from those years in New York are lost. [See references at end.]

At Occidental, Obama belonged to Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), a radical socialist organization of which the Weather Underground was an off-shoot. Did Obama continue his SDS membership at Columbia? (I read recently that Columbia was a major SDS center.)

In 1981, former Weather Underground members along with a few former Black Panthers are arrested in association with the robbery of a Brinks armored truck 20 miles north of Manhattan. A guard is killed and the driver is wounded. $1.6 million is recovered.

One of the Weather Underground members arrested for the Brinks crime is Kathy Boudin. She is sentenced to 20 years-to-life. Boudin leaves behind a child, Chesa Boudin, who ends up being raised by Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn while her mother lives in prison.

One of the former Black Panthers arrested in connection with the Brinks robbery is Nathaniel Burns, a member of the Black Liberation Army. Burns is also known as Sekou Odinga. Burns/Odinga is sentenced to 25 years-to-life for attempted murder of a police officer. (ODINGA, sound familiar?)

Obama and Ayers later end up collaborating on several controversial projects in Chicago. They work together to grant funds to Rashid Khalidi, Trinity United Church of Christ, and ACORN, among other “worthy” recipients. Ayers and Dohrn host a soirée at their home to launch young Barack’s political career. (But we’re now to believe that Barack did not know that Ayers and Dohrn created and starred in the Weather Underground, for which they were tried as criminals.)

As we often see in Obama’s history, here again there are a few degrees of separation that cause curious and intelligent people to ask: Is this just another set of odd coincidences?

I believe that Obama knew Ayers in New York City, and that he’s hiding the association with Ayers, among others, in refusing to provide information about his life there.

Obviously Obama’s campaign is lying (and insulting our intelligence) when it audaciously claims that Obama knew nothing of Ayers’ affiliation with the Weather Underground, up until…when?..(I must have missed that part of Axelrod’s explanation. When does he claim that Obama learned about Ayer’s lifelong project, the WU?)

In any event, accepting Axelrod’s explanation would require us to conclude that Obama is stupid. Really stupid, which sort of flies in the face of the magna cum laude thing from Harvard, right?

Everyone knows that the REAL questions are:

When did Obama first learn about Ayers? When did he first meet Ayers? What were his “off-campus” activities in New York? Perhaps if Obama were open about his life, and did not go to such extreme lengths to cover up fundamental facts of his existence, we would not be forced to outline such events as the 1981 Brinks robbery.

1981, New York City: Just a Bizarre Coincidence?

Now add 1+1 and maybe we get a young vulnerable Obama involved in this ?

He admits drug use during those years.

He was already indoctrinated into a "Marxist" agenda.

And God only knows what else by then.

Ayers / Dohrn were very experienced in recruiting by that time and they were professional criminals.

The Perfect Puppet

Figure it out for yourselves !!!!!!

The Brink's Robbery (1981)

Bombshell of all Bombshells !

reply to post by xuenchen


Seriously? The Brinks Mat robbery? Why not accuse him of being on the Grassy Knoll as well? Or being the mysterious person who taped the locks shut in Watergate? Wait - where was Obama during the Iranian Embassy hijacking crisis??? WE DEMAND ANSWERS!!! Oh... wait a second...