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Originally posted by Tardacus
The most alarming thing about this is:
We worked together over these last few years.
By his own admission this wasn`t a one off thing, He`s been working "together" with them for YEARS!
That's a stereo typical response from extreme right wingers who think everyone should see it there way
Legitimate democracy attains balance through "inclusion".
That's a word you should familiarize yourself with.
If it weren't for card carrying communists, the conservatives would have had us all working like dogs for ten dollars a day
The card carrying extremists with A-type personalities are the ones who just don't get it in ideological terms.
What is so freaking scandalous about "working with" a legitimate ideology/political activists? Just because you disagree with them doesn't make them illegal or even wrong.
DSA believes that they can work within the current system by minimizing corporate power, government authority and
strengthening individual workers and groups of workers
Personally? I don't see it as a possibility to work within the current system, it's too broken.
Originally posted by elouina
Originally posted by Tardacus
The most alarming thing about this is:
We worked together over these last few years.
By his own admission this wasn`t a one off thing, He`s been working "together" with them for YEARS!
I know... This bothered me also... But why is no one here concentrating of the important issue here? This could very well be our next Obama scandal.
And do you want to know what is scarier? That we don't have more upstanding citizens standing up to those with Marxists beliefs in this thread. Perhaps they should visit Russia and ask its citizens what they think of Marxism. Those were the darkest days of that countries history. Which still makes me wonder if Obama is just plain stupid or if he is trying to destroy the US?
When a person think it's government responsibility to rob from the rich and give fiat currency and corporate products to the poor, and use FORCE to accomplish that nefarious action that is a what a socialist is. Social engineering the environment to suit the individual that creates a lifetime of servitude to the state. Socialist= DIRTY word. Socialist= If you expect other people to pay for your existence
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by elouina
Okay, I'll play your game for a minute...
What is so freaking scandalous about "working with" a legitimate ideology/political activists? Just because you disagree with them doesn't make them illegal or even wrong.
DSA believes that they can work within the current system by minimizing corporate power, government authority and strengthening individual workers and groups of workers. Personally? I don't see it as a possibility to work within the current system, it's too broken.edit on 8-8-2013 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Kali74
Let me get this straight
This is 'disinformation' ?
When a person think it's government responsibility to rob from the rich and give fiat currency and corporate products to the poor, and use FORCE to accomplish that nefarious action that is a what a socialist is. Social engineering the environment to suit the individual that creates a lifetime of servitude to the state. Socialist= DIRTY word. Socialist= If you expect other people to pay for your existence
Hardly that is a statement of fact.
Redistribution of wealth, through both tax and spending policies that aim to reduce economic inequalities. Social democracies typically employ various forms of progressive taxation regarding wage and business income, wealth, inheritance, capital gains and property. On the spending side, a set of social policies typically provides free access to public services such as education, health care and child care, while subsidized access to housing, food, pharmaceutical goods, water supply, waste management and electricity is also common.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Talk about cherry picking, try reading all of it then try seeing what most modern socialists value as an economic practice. It isn't that. 'Socialism' through the State, isn't really socialism since it doesn't put the means of production in the hands of workers and it does not end the problem, it only apologizes for it and attempts to buffer people from it.
But why would Republicans get behind such a plan? Some astute political observers advise that when politicians appear to be promoting agendas against their own interest, follow the money. As Center for Immigration Studies Executive Director Mark Krikorian put it, “It’s no surprise that the Republicans supporting this thing are the ones with ties to the Chamber of Commerce, not ordinary voters.”
In 2009, Medina said, “We reform the immigration laws, it puts 12 million people on the path to citizenship and eventually voters. Can you imagine if we have, even the same ratio, two out of three? If we have eight million new voters … We will be creating a governing coalition for the long term, not just for an election cycle …”
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I suggest you actually read about socialism as I already said.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I seriously doubt you read all of it, you seemed to miss one of the first paragraphs that talked about how there are many socialist economic theories.