What evidence would you accept as conclusive proof that Aliens exist ??

Evidence comes in different forms , those UFO cases that have contained high strangeness data due to a mixture of a UFOs flight characteristics, out pacing modern day air force fighter jets, maneuverability capabilities, signs of intelligent design or flight characteristics ect, are facts in some UFO cases and are not speculations or guess work, is it any more justifiable to lay the point of origins at the door of secret black ops technologies than ET intelligence"s ???? In short the evidence in such UFO cases that point at,(after exhaustive scientific investigations), a reality that unknown objects displaying intelligent and advanced flight characteristics have been operating in the worlds restricted air spaces, now i am no rocket science but these facts indicate that this form of evidence in this format when attributed to an ET hypotheses is by that very definition EVIDENCE in this particular format.

So pontificating on all the above i will say yes i am confidant and happy enough to except evidence of ET origins in the above formats , as i believe that evidence can come and does in different formats.Or dream worlds are nothing more than reminders that conciseness continues and is still aware of its self after physical death, some may argue that is not evidence of life after death or that awareness ceases at physical death but that is my point its all about awareness and not about a UFO landing on the White-house lawn and a alien emerging and shaking the hands of the president... those who seek to dismiss any link to a ET origin will never tier of using the "Whitehouse lawn" type of evidence as the only acceptable,credible and plausible format of evidence that is acceptable, while that is understandable it is to me short sighted and a dangerous road to go down....

reply to post by K-PAX-PROT


thanks for that, you cover a lot of interesting points in your response, all taken into consideration in my quest to find out what people of all kinds accept as conclusive proof aliens exist

I accept my alien encounter as proof. As a kid I accepted photos and abduction claims but that faded with age. I also accepted my personal ufo sightings, 3 so far, but I have learned they will only show themselves and their advanced technology to some people, they do not want everyone to have proof. I also accept it because of what they gave me when I met them. I know your reality would be shattered, everything you know would change if they revealed themself to you, they do not wish chaos which would definitely happen.

The conclusive proof is already there. The universe is so vast that it must host a good number of planets that can support the development of intelligent life. Now, the evidence for ET visitation is much, but in terms of conclusive proof there is next to none (at least, publicly available).

reply to post by RUInsane


I agree with you, but what would you yourself accept as conclusive proof of the existence of aliens?

A backhander of an alien would make me believe 100% lol .. but a confirmed sighting/landing on every breaking news channel would also make me believe

also i would like to add that i do believe there is other beings out there .. just a matter of time .. and what do we have plenty of?

reply to post by Biigs


Please… If everyone at ATS personally met an alien and got to spend time with them 50% of ATS would claim it was fake, or a advanced hologram, or demon, or just president obama's body guards in rubber suits.

HAHAHAH

They would have to literally land in my yard for me to truly believe.

I already believe in the possibility of aliens but not because of any silly tv shows or maybe-maybe not pics. It just makes sense that in a universe as expansive as this there should be other life, it's sad and boring to think it could be just us, but that doesn't make me a whole hearted believer.

I'd need to see one with my own eyes to believe without any doubt that they were real. I wouldn't take anyones word for it on the matter, would need to see proof not pics, not audio, but an actual live alien within touching distance.

reply to post by vpjanitorial


HaHa yes! but what would it really take to make you yourself believe beyond doubt?

To claim "aliens exist" what must happen?

Well seeing unidentified flying object is no proof for me, since if I can't identify something, doesn't mean that others can't too, and there is no guarantee that the object is not from earth.

I'm no scientist, so no tissues or alien materials would convince me, no matter how incredible they looked I could always assume they were found somewere on earth.

If an alien would come to me and face me, I wouldn't be 100% sure he comes from space. It could be some wierd mutation of human or animal that I don't know about yet.

So for me to believe in aliens I would need to see them with my own eyes, and they would need to take me to their planet to prove to me, they are not from earth. Also I would need to be checked if I am not druged and be with another trusted person that would make sure that I actually leave earth and fly away into space. I think it is the most rational thing to ask, and if someone needs less than that to be convinced then he is very naive to me, but then again people are incredibly naive so it is no suprise.

Originally posted by flipflop
Would you need to see the Alien in person, or would you accept seeing it on a TV show as proof. would that be enough for you to accept them as real entities.?? What would convince you absolutely of their existence??

For me it would not need to be any singular dramatic event, though certainly it would help.

Instead, it just needs to be some CONSISTENCY among totally different yet credible people (different location, different era, different everything) of what they describe and how they describe it. Physical evidence also abounds, so consistency applies the same.

After weeding out the hoaxes and the misinformed, what remains become irrefutable by the very definition of irrefutability.

And all this have already occurred.

reply to post by suslaf


Good Response, I can see it would be pretty difficult to pull the wool over your eyes, thanks for input

What would it take for me to believe??

I will let you know if it ever happens.

reply to post by Grimpachi


If thats not too far in the future, hopefully my post will be somewhere in the archives, don't forget to come back

suppose a handshake would suffice.

reach-around takes a close 2nd.

reply to post by vpjanitorial


you may well be right! with that.
but what exactly would you yourself require as proof beyond doubt that aliens exist.

i do not require any physical evidence, being a personal strong believer in extra dimensions. if theyre out there, theyre not occupying our 3d, physical space in our time governed idea of a world. aliens, higher intelligence, angels, demons, deities, etc. are all beings which have surpassed time and space, and therefore, cannot be seen with our eyes. they can, however, be communicated with through extradimensional travel achieved in "lucid dreams" and experiences of the like. we say seeing is believing, but, what is SEEING?

reply to post by artistunknownxx


Good Point, and I agree we are restricted in that we have a limited vision and audio perception, thanks for your response..

I hold on to an idea, and that, for anything to exist at all then anything has to be possible, and thus, "aliens" fall under this possibility.

To attempt to document or describe, or even begin to gather evidence or even know what kind of aliens there are is quite limited, the reality, of course, is simply beyond belief.