occupy money co-operative, offers alternative to "too big to fail" monopoly banks

we are slaves to a banking system that is totally out of control,
we supply the capital and take the risk while the banks reap the rewards.

there is now an alternative to being forced into helping the too big too fails, destroy what's left of the economy.

introducing a non profit alternative that puts communities and your countries economic health above bonuses and stock holders benefits.

imagine if you can protest "too big to fail" banks with every purchase you make?
imagine if you can make a change in the world that benefits your community first?

imagine not getting massive bank charges for saving your money.

what does ATS think about having a simple yet effective way of saying,

the big banks have gone too far, and have not been reigned in or prosecuted,
if you feel they should be reprimanded for their actions, you can now HIT THEM IN THE WALLET.

question is how many people will move their money to benefit their community

i think that if 1/4 of all people move their money, loans will start to flow again and the economy will not be held hostage as actual competition will force "TBTF" to start loaning instead of strangling the economy.

do you think an alternative will work?
do you think the big banks will attack the idea as competition is a crime in banking?
will you move your money to help your community?
are you happy paying excessive bonuses or would you rather the money was used for businesses in your community?
does the fact that its called an occupy alternative, stop you from supporting this aim?

is community more important than profits?



do you care more for executive bonuses or having a community?

edit to add link,
occupywallst.org...


xploder

Nothing wrong with co-operatives, they've been around for a long time, and by their default are not a high risk business. But they are not going to put the big banks out of business who have the entrepreneurial clout.
No doubt a time for change though. For instance, if the co-ops has set asides for alternative energies, and infrastructure and stuff like that to make better communities, that would start to be a worry for the big banks.

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Suppose my first question would be, how did this make it half-way up the home page with 2 flags??? And secondly isn't it far too late to change anything now? The adverts have started on Google to make sure people are getting the message that Britain is on the edge, right on the edge..........Personally i think it's too little too late from people who were warned and took no notice.
Only way the world system is going to be saved is with the introduction of the world dollar or whatever name they give it

reply to post by XPLodER

we are slaves to a banking system that is totally out of control

Yes, this is true

does the fact that its called an occupy alternative, stop you from supporting this aim?

Yes. Because too many people in the Occupy movement are anarcho-communists who have the end of Capitalism as their goal. This is why Nancy Pelosi backed Occupy and not the Tea Party.

Apparently even the Soviets thought the cooperative movement was a pie in the sky Utopian idea.

from The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1979).
The illusion that the socialist transformation of society was possible through the development of cooperatives within the framework of capitalism was shared by many Utopian socialists, among them C. Fourier, who put forward the idea of establishing phalanxes, or cooperative-type production associations encompassing industry and agriculture. Followers of Saint-Simon, especially P. J. Buchez, also held to this illusion. Utopian plans for eliminating the defects of capitalism by means of cooperatives were also proposed by P.-J. Proudhon

encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com...

But of course the Soviets then wanted everything to be centralized with control through the Politburo.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

Yes. Because too many people in the Occupy movement are anarcho-communists who have the end of Capitalism as their goal. This is why Nancy Pelosi backed Occupy and not the Tea Party.

pk so you are in the tea party, and see all occupiers as communists,
it would look like you are trying to smear rather than hear, ok

Apparently even the Soviets thought the cooperative movement was a pie in the sky Utopian idea.

your knee jerk reaction, and mention of the soviets, shows me your not here to discuss the capitalistic nature of this co-op

and are here in an attempt to derail the thread,
people working together made civilisation, some thing some people tend to forget, when their opinions are so self centred and self serving.

nice try, at throwing the red scare at me.
im a capitalist DA

xploder

How about just moving your money to a credit union? For a while, during occupy, lots of people were - we need to continue that not start something new. Credit unions have been successful for a long time. I've used them my whole life and been happy with them.

The banks I use at work are reaping a fortune on the backs of everyone without returning a thing to the community just as the OP says. Let's work with what we have.

Banking should (and I emphasize the 'should') be run as a public utility and any profits should be put directly into benefiting the community that uses the service - not paying huge salaries, bonus and dividends to a select few.

reply to post by XPLodER


Not a bad idea from what I have read about on their website. Although, it appears they still need a bit more funding to get it fully off the ground.

Sounds like they have modified the idea of a credit union into a sort of virtual bank. I am sure some really smart people got together and cooked this up.

Are they really going to charge only 99 cents a month for unlimited use? I mean, most pre-paid debt cards are loaded with hidden charges.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


You realize that Pelosi, Obama, other dems half assedly endorsed Occupy in order to win our hearts... you realize also that attempt failed miserably. You also know that when the attempt failed the violent crack down on camps began. You know these things, why you ignore them or lie about them is beyond me.

OP: I have seen this, I think it's a great idea.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

You realize that Pelosi, Obama, other dems half assedly endorsed Occupy in order to win our hearts... you realize also that attempt failed miserably. You also know that when the attempt failed the violent crack down on camps began. You know these things, why you ignore them or lie about them is beyond me.

OP: I have seen this, I think it's a great idea.

edit on 16-8-2013 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)

Kali, long time no see.

Pleasantries aside now, you must realize that there are many whom still believe in our two party system. For them the world is very much Red and Blue.

The idea has never crossed their minds that politicians take social stances during times of civil unrest for nothing more than garnering votes. I have no doubt that the mild political support on the side of Occupy was nothing more than a tactic to divide us further.
I would not even be surprised if our little banking cartel told our political rulers to support Occupy from the left, while condemning it from the right.



reply to post by XPLodER


I’m all for tearing down the walls of our failed regime.

Originally posted by XPLodER
we are slaves to a banking system that is totally out of control,
we supply the capital and take the risk while the banks reap the rewards.

there is now an alternative to being forced into helping the too big too fails, destroy what's left of the economy.

introducing a non profit alternative that puts communities and your countries economic health above bonuses and stock holders benefits.

imagine if you can protest "too big to fail" banks with every purchase you make?
imagine if you can make a change in the world that benefits your community first?

imagine not getting massive bank charges for saving your money.

what does ATS think about having a simple yet effective way of saying,

the big banks have gone too far, and have not been reigned in or prosecuted,
if you feel they should be reprimanded for their actions, you can now HIT THEM IN THE WALLET.

question is how many people will move their money to benefit their community

i think that if 1/4 of all people move their money, loans will start to flow again and the economy will not be held hostage as actual competition will force "TBTF" to start loaning instead of strangling the economy.

do you think an alternative will work?
do you think the big banks will attack the idea as competition is a crime in banking?
will you move your money to help your community?
are you happy paying excessive bonuses or would you rather the money was used for businesses in your community?
does the fact that its called an occupy alternative, stop you from supporting this aim?

is community more important than profits?

do you care more for executive bonuses or having a community?

edit to add link,
occupywallst.org...


xploder

edit on 3/8/13 by XPLodER because: (no reason given)

edit on 3/8/13 by XPLodER because: (no reason given)

Do I get to earn interest off loans I make?

DO people getting the loans have to supply collateral?

As they vetted for means to pay back and who makes the decision if they are a good risk or not?

What happens if they blow the money I put in?