Here come the Christiecrats

Originally posted by muse7
And a Rand Paul/ Ted Cruz nomination would give the working and middle class a boot up the ass on behalf of big corporations .

If so .. they would have learned how to do that from OBAMA.

That nickname is dangerously similar to "aristocrats".
Could it backfire in a campaign?

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You could elect a raging anarchist (my personal preference) to the office of POTUS and it wouldnt make any difference.

Congress has just a bit to do with what goes on around here you know.

You can have your real PROGRESSIVE (whatever that means) and still nothing of note would change.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Does anyone honestly think that anyone besides Hillary is going to be the next President?

The Republicans have absolutely no one that can match her...Rand Paul?....Christy?....Rubio?....Jindal?....Ryan? Compared to Hillary, all of these guys are C-list...not even B-list.

I know Republicans think that all they have to do is repeat "Benghazi" over and over and over...but they have been doing that for 3 years and no one cares.

Republicans have a demographic problem, they have a policy problem, and they have a strategy problem when it comes to national politics. They will still win house seats in large numbers, because rural areas tend to lean that way...but that is about it.

Originally posted by AlienScience
Does anyone honestly think that anyone besides Hillary is going to be the next President?

I thought for sure she was going to be POTUS in 2008. Then Obama came out of nowhere and
plugged into manufactured 'white guilt' and got elected. His resume is empty compared to hers.
She is capable. She can do the job. But she's corrupt to the core.

MSNBC is already on the job trying to make sure she gets elected this time.
Predictable.

reply to post by muse7

If you ever want to see a Republican president again then Republicans must nominate someone with moderate views and not a far right extremist from the Tea Party.

Get real it is no secret the left doesn't ever want to have a 'Republican' President so why all the 'advice' on telling them what to do?



Christie isn't a Republican anyways, neither was Romney,neither was McCain I see people throw the word moderate around quite offten, but hell call them what they are: Democrats.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by AlienScience
Does anyone honestly think that anyone besides Hillary is going to be the next President?

I thought for sure she was going to be POTUS in 2008. Then Obama came out of nowhere and
plugged into manufactured 'white guilt' and got elected. His resume is empty compared to hers.
She is capable. She can do the job. But she's corrupt to the core.

MSNBC is already on the job trying to make sure she gets elected this time.
Predictable.

Obama didn't come out of no where for anyone that was paying attention. When he gave the DNC speech in 2004, many knew right then that he would be the next President.

There is no one like that this time around, Hillary is the only option for the Democrats. Biden will primary against her because he has to, they will put on a show...they will have mock debates (they will agree on everything with minor differences in their solution approach)...but it is already known that Hillary is the candidate. It won't be a dirty no holds bar primary...it will be enough to keep them in the headlines and keep it interesting. Obama will stay out of the primary season, he has the nice excuse of having to be President and not wanting to inject his position into the process. It will wrap up early and leave the Republican circus to destroy each other like they did last time.

Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
The new political divide is liberty and anti-liberty.

Plenty of R's and D's share Christie's anti-liberty positions.

He'd actually be the perfect candidate if the partisan morons ever looked in the mirror are realized they're both on the same anti-liberty team.


Christie/Bush 2016. Because you love the boot on your neck.

or

Hillary/Emanuel 2016. Because you love the boot on your neck.

Either way that boot isnt going anywhere.

And a Rand Paul/ Ted Cruz nomination would give the working and middle class a boot up the ass on behalf of big corporations .

It's a lose lose lose situation. This country needs a REAL progressive leader that will put the people first.

Do you know how absurd that is? Who creates the jobs for the people you mention above? When you relax regulations and lower taxes those corporations invest that money in R&D and expansion.

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The Republican field is bleak. What we need is someone with Charisma and rational ideas. Christie is rational, but I personally have doubts about the charisma part. I would vote for him over any Democrat though.

Nothing will be done unless Republicans can take back the Senate. What we need is a fiscal conservative that can galvanize the populace around American exceptionalism and pull our asses out of the malaise we currently find ourselves in. We need Ronald. I don't see him anywhere in the current field, do you?


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It's kind of funny all of the hate on Chris in this thread. The right-wing is so quick to outcast the guy because he's shifted to the middle of the road after his state experienced a terrible natural disaster, and he dealt with the GOP blocking aid to his state multiple times.

Of course he's going to brush that off and go play ball with the GOP....

Personally I like the shift he's making. It shows that instead of being a part of the GOP crowd, he's willing to do whatever is necessary to get the job done for the people that voted him into office. He's doing the job he was elected to do as a representative for the people.

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Your post isn't accurate. The Conservatives were never on board with Kristy Kreme, and it has nothing to do with aid, it has to do with him being a tax and spend Liberal Republican.

reply to post by Evil_Santa


When people 'shift to the middle' it is to sell themselves as something as they are not.

IE Pandering,
IE Telling people what ever they want to hear just to get a job.

That is why the GOP lost the last two elections they ran moderates to appeal to Democrats, and Independents.

They will never win like that.

The GOP is the GOP and the base has been staying home think they would learn.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Evil_Santa

 

Your post isn't accurate. The Conservatives were never on board with Kristy Kreme, and it has nothing to do with aid, it has to do with him being a tax and spend Liberal Republican.

Oh ok. So he spoke at the 2012 RNC because he's such a tax and spend republican.



Go away.

reply to post by neo96


All of these guys are the same.

The GOP doesn't have a backbone.

Yeah, I said it.

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by neo96

 

All of these guys are the same.

The GOP doesn't have a backbone.

Yeah, I said it.

They run Christie stick a fork in them they are done and so are we.

They don't have a backbone hell McCain and Romney is all the proof anyone needs.

Better be hated for what they are instead 'loved' for something they are not.

They need to cowboy the hell up.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Evil_Santa

 

When people 'shift to the middle' it is to sell themselves as something as they are not.

IE Pandering,
IE Telling people what ever they want to hear just to get a job.

That is why the GOP lost the last two elections they ran moderates to appeal to Democrats, and Independents.

They will never win like that.

The GOP is the GOP and the base has been staying home think they would learn.

Uh no. The GOP lost because the GOP is out of touch with the majority of the US population, because the GOP is fragmented between a lot of different groups. And the GOP won't be coming back together anytime soon either. It's the party of narcissists. That's such a bad term, but it's the reality of the party. Even without the science that shows that conservatives weigh risk with the selfish part of their brain (amygdala) it's still pretty obvious that it's the narcissistic party. It's the party of self-responsibility, earn your own, you get what you deserve.. etc. "I don't want to pay for someone else to have healthcare!".

The inherent issue with narcissists is that they all think they're 100% correct and refuse to look at other viewpoints because theirs is always correct. This is why the GOP won't come back together to lead a decent campaign.

Oh and pandering? LOL. Using Marco Rubio as an attempt to pander to the Hispanic community anyone? How about the whole "lets do amnesty to gain Hispanic voters".

Pot meet kettle.

Neo, you are delightfully delusional. You may want to get out of the bunker and listen to some sane people for a change.

When people 'shift to the middle' it is to sell themselves as something as they are not.

So everyone is an extremist at heart? I am not. None of my friends are. Centrists appeal to us, because they are obviously not beholden to ideology.

IE Pandering, IE Telling people what ever they want to hear just to get a job.

Or just believing in moderate things.

That is why the GOP lost the last two elections they ran moderates to appeal to Democrats, and Independents.

Romney was no moderate, at least he didn't run as one, and McCain chose that idiot Palin to prove how conservative he was. They are conservatives, just not extremists.

They will never win like that.

They only ran as well as they did because they chose conservatives, not ultra-conservatives. If, in the last dying gasp of the aging tea party, they nominate an ultra-conservative, they will suffer a devastating defeat.

The GOP is the GOP and the base has been staying home think they would learn.

The GOP base never stays home. They would have voted for a socialist to avoid voting for the black guy, and they will come out in force to voted against Hillary. But there just aren't enough of them to win an election.

reply to post by Evil_Santa

Uh no. The GOP lost because the GOP is out of touch with the majority of the US population, b

By out of touch meaning 'just LIE and promise people a bunch of free stuff' then correct.

The inherent issue with narcissists is that they all think they're 100% correct and refuse to look at other viewpoints because theirs is always correct.

Mean like the Democrats?

Oh and pandering? LOL. Using Marco Rubio as an attempt to pander to the Hispanic community anyone? How about the whole "lets do amnesty to gain Hispanic voters".

Oh like the current Potus pandering for the AA vote?

Pot meet kettle.

Indeed really under the delusion the Democrats are 'better' then the 'Republicans'

REALLY?

Originally posted by neo96


Indeed really under the delusion the Democrats are 'better' then the 'Republicans'

REALLY?

There are people that still believe that Neo??

reply to post by Grumble

Neo, you are delightfully delusional. You may want to get out of the bunker and listen to some sane people for a change.

Nice pot shot what the hell does that have to do with Christie?

So everyone is an extremist at heart? I am not. None of my friends are. Centrists appeal to us, because they are obviously not beholden to ideology.

Yeah right.

Or just believing in moderate things.

Believe in 'morderate' things eh?

We are talking about GOVERNMENT here they are the antithesis of 'moderation'.

Romney was no moderate, at least he didn't run as one, and McCain chose that idiot Palin to prove how conservative he was. They are conservatives, just not extremists.

Now who is the 'delusional' one ?

Self proclaimed moderate eh?
Self proclaimed centrist eh?

Sound like one of them 'extremist's' by that comment.

They only ran as well as they did because they chose conservatives, not ultra-conservatives. If, in the last dying gasp of the aging tea party, they nominate an ultra-conservative, they will suffer a devastating defeat.

Not really considering 'phony' scandals and government agencies electioneering for the Democrats ,and the rampant voter fraud.

The GOP base never stays home.

Yeah they did:

Love the falise pretense here considering the above comments just proves how 'self proclaimed' morderates/centrists will never vote Republican.

Proves my point thank you very much.