Is this the real truth about the 9/11 planes

Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer

Originally posted by AuntieChrist
reply to post by Hefficide

 

I did it like that as 'The other side of the coin' specifically asked us all for one question.

Yes. One question. Looks like you asked about twenty. Care to narrow it down?

Not really, perhaps I have 20 different personalities?

Sorry, perhaps we have 20 different etc.

Look, we all know that if I (we) had posted a list of questions then some would have been ignored. The questions weren't for YOU personally, I/we was/were asking 'The Other Side Of The Coin' for his/her opinion(s).

You understand?

x x x x

Originally posted by AuntieChrist

How did airliner fuel reduce two 100 story buildings to ashes to ashes and dust to dust, yet a paper passport didn't even get creased?

It's pretty simple. The passport was out the other side of the building before the fuel exploded.


The video explains it.

Originally posted by AuntieChrist


Ok, I'll bite.

Stewardess aside ~ How was it that passengers could call there loved ones from 20,000ft in 2001 even though the necessary network wasn't created until around 2008?

Most of the calls were made on air phones.

Originally posted by signalfire
Arguing with people who have never heard of Operation Northwoods (and can't be bothered to look it up) and who insist that a cockamamie government story about hijackers from Saudi Arabia was the reason to invade Afghanistan and Iraq is kinda useless. Anyone who really wanted to learn about that day would have long since found the various investigation sites and read up and the discussion would be on a much higher level.

The truth of the matter is that if any ONE of the government's 'facts' can be found to be in question, then everything is in question. And the other truth of the matter is, that either the most technologically superior, trillions-of-dollars invested military in the history of the world, a military that would have made the Roman Empire green with envy, can't even protect its own world headquarters with almost an hour's notice or it was allowed or planned to happen. In fact, no attempt was even made to evacuate the building when an incoming plane or missile was known.

The other truth of the matter is that 9-11 was a live snuff film perfectly coordinated to have as many live viewers as possible, and used to gin up massive amounts of revenge emotions, ('you're either with us or against us', what kind of LEADER would take this tack???) and allow more trillions of dollars to be spent in more killing, mostly of innocent people, now estimated to be at least a million Iraqi and Afghani civilians? Not to mention the salient fact that all those people have relatives and they all now really hate us, and for good reason.

9-11 Truth and Lies are pretty much accepted all over the rest of the world. Only Americans are so brainwashed and fluoride poisoned that they can't seem to see the extent they are being lied to.

How can you trust people who told you the 'air was safe to breathe' just so they could reopen Wall Street?

How can you see those buildings in mid collapse and not see the massive amounts of dust being formed (residual water content in the concrete floors boiling instantaneously) or take a minute to find the pictures of multi-hundred ton beam assemblies being blown sideways and impaling themselves into buildings hundreds of feet away (not exactly a gravity-fed collapse). Explain the horseshoe beam or the 'meteor', and if you haven't heard of them, you haven't done your homework. Explain the sustained heat in the basement levels for 99 days that was hot enough to melt steel. Over a 1000 degrees hotter than kerosene could ever produce, or office fires for that matter. Explain the fact that no computers, desks, chairs, room dividers, toilets or water fountains were found in the rubble, a fact that perplexed the first responders going through the pile. Explain the long delay between establishing a (fake) investigation, under financed and led by Bush insiders; explain the fact that your President and Vice-President finally only agreed to talk to the 911 Commission committee behind closed doors without recordings or notes of the proceedings, and together rather than separately.

Explain why a majority of the 9-11 Families' questions went unanswered, or why the Commission principals later came forward and said that they were lied to and no longer stood by their report.

It's my conclusion after 100s of hours of true research, not debating on sites like this, that New York City was nuked and that didn't happen with some guy in Afghanistan running things. Look up mini nukes and the current technology available for same (can be as small as an apple now), with any desired yield and radiation signature.

Your 'inept' government is corrupt to the core and quite obviously doesn't give a damn about you; all you are is useless feeders and cannon fodder. Witness the way they treat veterans, if you don't believe the rest of this.

great post! sums it up..

I would LOVE to see this read by Lewis Black.

Originally posted by AuntieChrist
The questions weren't for YOU personally, I/we was/were asking 'The Other Side Of The Coin' for his/her opinion(s).

You understand?

x x x x

This is a discussion board/forum. If you want a private chat you can use the message function. Otherwise you can expect anybody to butt in (because that's what the forum format is for).

Originally posted by AuntieChrist
Why is it, that countless eyewitnesses whose testimonies contradicted the 'official story', had fatal accidents or sudden suicidal urges?

care to name these "eyewitnesses", where their claims contradicted the official story and exactly how they died.

You made the claims, it is up to you to back those claims up. If you can.....

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by AuntieChrist

How did airliner fuel reduce two 100 story buildings to ashes to ashes and dust to dust, yet a paper passport didn't even get creased?

It's pretty simple. The passport was out the other side of the building before the fuel exploded.


The video explains it.

You are actually deluded if you think the video explains it. The video presents an opinion, an idea, a theory and pretty poorly too.
Listen to the woman.... "we believe...
Well believing is not knowing. people believed the Earth was flat until recently, people believed that man couldn't fly til the Wright Brothers, etc.

Keep on believing, ignorance can be bliss. . . . heck, maybe even the Messiah will turn up?

Originally posted by AuntieChrist


Ok, I'll bite.

How can a lightweight aluminum 757 nose-cone pass straight through 3 layers of reinforced steel concrete walls, yet the colossal multi-ton Titanium engines couldn't even break the glass windows of the Pentagon?

The windows were not glass they were blast proof windows. There were not 3 layers of reinforced steel concrete walls, There was one reinforced exterior wall and one wall consisting of 2 layers of bricks, The engines were found inside the pentagon.

Why cant you get your facts strait ?

Originally posted by AuntieChrist


You are actually deluded if you think the video explains it. The video presents an opinion, an idea, a theory and pretty poorly too.

So in your important opinion what does the video get wrong. Can you give us some details ?

Originally posted by AuntieChrist

Why was all the crime-scene evidence (molten steel, dust and pulverized rubble) collected up, shipped off and destroyed before any criminal investigation could be carried out?

This was the largest most detailed most expensive investigation ever conducted in the US.

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by AuntieChrist
Why is it, that countless eyewitnesses whose testimonies contradicted the 'official story', had fatal accidents or sudden suicidal urges?

care to name these "eyewitnesses", where their claims contradicted the official story and exactly how they died.

You made the claims, it is up to you to back those claims up. If you can.....

Bruce,

come on, stop trying to derail the thread..

Barry Jennings (Eyewitness to explosions and bodies inside WTC7) — Undisclosed causes

Kenneth Johannemann (Eyewitness to explosions inside WTC, Saw no airplanes hit but just saw “floors blow up”) — Gunshot to the head, ruled a suicide

Beverly Eckert (Wife of 9/11 WTC Victim, Earwitness to WTC Explosion, Refused hush money) — Airplane crash

Prasanna Kalahasthi (Wife of 9/11 “Flight 11 Passenger”) — Suicide by hanging

David Graham (Dentist who saw three of the 9/11 Hijackers with Pakistani businessman in Shreveport, Louisiana) — Murdered (Poisoned with anti-freeze)

Paul Smith (Pilot of WABC7′s 9/11 “International Shot” Chopper) — Car accident

Michael H. Doran (9/11 Victims Lawyer) — Airplane crash

Bertha Champagne (Longtime babysitter for 911 Perp Marvin Bush’s family) — Crushed by a car

Christopher Landis (Former Operations Manager for Safety Service Patrol for the Virginia Department of Transportation, Interviewed by makers of “The Pentacon”, Gave makers of “The Pentacon” a photo collection, Involved in the response to the Pentagon attack) — Suicide

John P. O’Neill (FBI Counter-terrorism expert, Obsessed with catching Osama Bin Laden, Suspected Clinton/Bush/FBI complicity in the cover-up and protection of Bin Laden) — Died in the WTC on 9/11

Deborah Palfrey (Ran an escort service that had 911 Perps on it’s list) — Suicide by hanging

David Wherley (US General who ordered fighter jets to scramble on 9/11) — Train crash

Un-named Ticket Agent (Boston Logan Ticket Agent who checked Atta and Alomari) — Suicide

Suzanne Jovin (Yale Student who had a thesis about Osama Bin Laden, Her thesis adviser was an intelligence operative) — Murdered (Killer unknown)

Perry Kucinich (Brother of Congressman who advocated new 9/11 investigation) — Fell down

Salvatore Princiotta (9/11 FDNY Firefighter from Ladder 9) — Murdered

Ezra Harel (Chairman of the Israeli Company That Handled Security For All 9/11 Airports) — Heart attack

Bruce Ivins (Patsy in the 9/11-linked “Anthrax” Case) — Drug overdose

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by AuntieChrist

Why was all the crime-scene evidence (molten steel, dust and pulverized rubble) collected up, shipped off and destroyed before any criminal investigation could be carried out?

This was the largest most detailed most expensive investigation ever conducted in the US.

Mod Edit - what was posted here violates the strict rules of the 9/11 forum to do with civility - something which can result in an instant account ban

reply to post by AuntieChrist


So what are you going to do about it?

Seriously, what?

Originally posted by AuntieChrist

Why did the Coroner in Pensylvania leave after 20 minutes, saying that there were no bodies?

Wally miller did not leave after 20 minutes he was there all day. The autopsy reports listed fragmentation as cause of death for all victims on Flt 93, so there were no intact bodies.

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by AuntieChrist


Ok, I'll bite.

How can a lightweight aluminum 757 nose-cone pass straight through 3 layers of reinforced steel concrete walls, yet the colossal multi-ton Titanium engines couldn't even break the glass windows of the Pentagon?

The windows were not glass they were blast proof windows. There were not 3 layers of reinforced steel concrete walls, There was one reinforced exterior wall and one wall consisting of 2 layers of bricks, The engines were found inside the pentagon.

Why cant you get your facts strait ?

Perhaps because I have no idea how to get facts strait..

I can try my best to get my facts straight, if that helps,
but why don't you just show us all clear photos of the two 757 engines that were found inside the Pentagon?

But hey, you have me intrigued... pray tell what were the titanium-engine proof transparent windows made of? How come the engines passed through, without breaking them, yet when the wall later collapsed, these miracle material windows broke?

Anyway, this is all fantasy, and you are trying to derail the thread.

No 757 can disappear into any 12 foot hole. Period!

Originally posted by AuntieChrist


For sure most expensive but most detailed????? Are you joking or are you stoned???

Can you give me an example of a more detailed investigation ?

How about the passport video what details are wrong in it ?

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by AuntieChrist

Why was all the crime-scene evidence (molten steel, dust and pulverized rubble) collected up, shipped off and destroyed before any criminal investigation could be carried out?

This was the largest most detailed most expensive investigation ever conducted in the US.

There you all go again making completely asinine comments.


9-11 Commission Comparisons ... 411 days later ...

Days until an investigation was ordered into the Pearl Harbour attack: 9
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Kennedy assassination: 7
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Challenger disaster: 7
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the sinking of the Titanic: 6
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the 9/11 attacks: 411
Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million

Congress and President Bush set aside $50 million to help NASA pay for its investigation of the shuttle Columbia disaster.

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reply to post by PhotonEffect


It is none of your business WHAT I do about it. I would however suggest to all here that they try to remain focused.
No-one needs to do anything drastic as the wheels of destiny are already in mid revolution.

Imagine (for a minute) life as an endless domino game.

Have you all forgotten how the fake communist states collapsed, one by one, after the first domino (Poland) fell?
It has happened all through history and now the dominoes have started falling in the capitalist bastion of the West. No amount of drones nor wire taps can stop the domino wave that is approaching that will help balance our speck in the multiverse.

As above, so below.

Harmony and balance is a Universal law.



Off out, so we'll leave it at that for now.

reply to post by AuntieChrist


I have no idea what dominoes have to do with remote controlled planes being used in the 9/11 attacks.

But if you can provide some solid evidence for RC 757's that would be cool.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the 9/11 attacks: 411

Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million

Your evidence is lacking,,,, it only includes the 911 commission report.


Did you read your own link ? It debunks your post.

911myths.com...