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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
So, I ask ATS members- Should we still call ATS a Conspiracy Site? I know it is billed otherwise, but outside ATS, people still refer to it as a Conspiracy Site.
Ok, so why are certain conspiracies not allowed, especially given the moniker about denying ignorance. Cheech and Chong ? One of the reasons i very rarely visit this site now
...many of the "conspiracy" theories debated on ATS are no longer conspiracies, they are just plain FACTS.
I could go on and on, but the point is that most conspiracies discussed here have become reality. So, I ask ATS members- Should we still call ATS a Conspiracy Site? I know it is billed otherwise, but outside ATS, people still refer to it as a Conspiracy Site.
A.) The NSA is engaged in a full blown effort to record every electronic device on earth. In addition, it has been confirmed that the government routinely opens even or snail mail.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Just out of curiosity, how would the most open administration in US history actually look if their was a decent president in charge?edit on 31-7-2013 by IvanAstikov because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
I keep saying this again and again,
Before Snowden came out it was common knowledge that "they" were spying on their own citizens. That is what ECHELON was all about, the NSA could not quite legally spy on its own citizens with out a warrant so under the ECHELON agreement they would get GCHQ to spy on Joe the yank and GCHQ would send all the info back to the NSA. It gave them the capability to spy on everyone, including their own citizens.
It just amazes me time and time again that people talk about the revelations about NSA spying.... like they're revelations and they're not. Anyone who has the balls the call themselves a "Conspiracy theorist" should not be talking about Snowden like he is "revealed anything". that big. We have always known that the NSA have had ways of spying on American Citizens, just like we knew before Snowden of the NSA code embedded in window's OS so its not really much of a surprise that others have been in on it as well.
Besides, just because recent revelations (to some) about the NSA have proven that they have indeed been spying on their own citizens only proves one of the millions of conspiracies out there. Unless Snowden has proved all of the other conspiracies out there to be true as well then I dont really see how you can claim ATS is now as site for Conspiracy Fact, rather than Conspiracy theory, just because one (There have been others) of them turned out to be true.
As for UFO's, I believe in UFO's but unlike the NSA spying on American citizens the existence of little green men in flying space ships visiting us is not a absolute fact.
So yes ATS is still a conspiracy site, although i like to think of is more as a current affairs forum these days.edit on 31-7-2013 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Biigs
ATS is not just for Americans.....
The rest of us get to see first hand and in real time where we are headed by your example (mostly talking about the UK here)edit on 31-7-2013 by Biigs because: (no reason given)