Please for the sake of humanity stop this Aliens are Demons nonsense.

Originally posted by zacroyce
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Saying that the Krill papers (which I have read) are 'evidence' of anything is like saying Harry Potter is evidence of magic. IMO.

HP was evidence of inept magic. Hermoine was the better mage. shesh

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by windword

 

Tell me how these creatures were really demons and not solid beings and their craft was some kind of illusion and not real?

Interdimensional beings have the ability to manifest into the physical, but not permanently.

I think this is why they are so elusive and why the topic may be creating some confusion in this thread.

And, you know this how?

We are interdimensional beings, and we are, somewhat, permanent in this realm. Why do you think that all aliens are unable to manifest themselves? Many say that aliens are walking among us.

reply to post by zacroyce

I suppose if someone considered the dream state to be another dimension then yes, everyone in the world has been to another dimension. These shamans never 'physically' left, so in this case it is your definition of 'different dimension' that counts.

I don't know about you, but most of the "alien abductee" stories that I've researched, usually happen while someone is sleeping. If anyone has a good abductee story that happened under different circumstances, I'd be interested in reading it. I may go look for some now.

reply to post by boymonkey74


God created demons too.. along with angels. they are intelligent beings. some are in opposition against us and some are not.

If you read the bible it talks about them mingling with humans and then getting destroyed as they were oppressing man.

Nothing new under the sun.

It is not nonsense.

A lot of the alien talk revolves around aliens mixing with humans.. not to far away from the what the bible talked about.


Many aliens talk about humans evolving into god hood which is essentially the same lie the snake pitched to adam and eve in the garden of eden.

They pretty much discredit God by saying they can be gods to or that god isn't that special as there are more like him. which is pretty much a rewording of the same lie pitched to humans in the first place.

nothing new under the sun.

if you want to get duped go ahead.

reply to post by windword

We are interdimensional beings, and we are, somewhat, permanent in this realm. Why do you think that all aliens are unable to manifest themselves? Many say that aliens are walking among us.

Earth isn't the natural habitat for demons and angels.

As for human hybrids, or aliens living among us, there's always that possibility, but I'm not convinced based on my own personal research.

At one time, I used to believe in the angel/human hybrid as written in the book of Enoch, but further research convinced me against it later when I did a deeper search into the meanings of "the sons of God" vs. "the sons of men". However, I do believe (based on the book of Enoch) that angels were sent here to guide and assist kings in their governance of people in the early days of mankind.

Originally posted by votan
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

God created demons too.. along with angels. they are intelligent beings. some are in opposition against us and some are not.

If you read the bible it talks about them mingling with humans and then getting destroyed as they were oppressing man.

Nothing new under the sun.

It is not nonsense.

A lot of the alien talk revolves around aliens mixing with humans.. not to far away from the what the bible talked about.


Many aliens talk about humans evolving into god hood which is essentially the same lie the snake pitched to adam and eve in the garden of eden.

They pretty much discredit God by saying they can be gods to or that god isn't that special as there are more like him. which is pretty much a rewording of the same lie pitched to humans in the first place.

nothing new under the sun.

if you want to get duped go ahead.

I agree with a lot of what you said but you might want to check out the part in the bible where Jesus says we are Gods. Psalms makes a reference to that also. He means in spirit and this why we quest for eternal life.... to achieve the status of the Elohim. We've lived before in another age. The soul is eternal, the flesh is corrupt. From the very beginning of the bible the angels have been trying to cultivate another intelligent life form but also spiritual life form through man... and they aren't done yet... which goes back to the hybrid thing. We've gone through different stages and for various reason despite serving a purpose, let's say... as giants... they had to change things again. This is why all past hominids are all dead but chimps are not.

reply to post by boymonkey74

Aliens may be a gift from God, one that helps us understand our place in this vast universe and together we (ET and us) can discover hand in tentacle the wonders of it all.

I would estimate it at 99% that if alien life visited our planet, it would be out of need and not brotherly love. Not demons, but with an utter disregard for the human animal.

Giants for example were heroes among men because we used to have some pretty serious predators chowing on us, but as those threats passed... the giants themselves became the threat. Life is like that because the flesh is corruptible. They served their purpose but had to be changed. You know the saying... when you're making omelets...

Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

Aliens may be a gift from God, one that helps us understand our place in this vast universe and together we (ET and us) can discover hand in tentacle the wonders of it all.

I would estimate it at 99% that if alien life visited our planet, it would be out of need and not brotherly love. Not demons, but with an utter disregard for the human animal.

Only if they intended to kill us all at once but not if they are attempting to improve upon our intellects and tendency for disease and short life spans (DNA) They don't have to kill us all and force this upon us, but they could.

Since I am a firm believer that they are already here, then this is obviously not what they intend to do or they would have already finished us off. That would create suffering which is not good and a serious spiritual grudge.

I believe they want to facilitate a slow, willing change... and with cosmic natural threats... life on Earth depends on it.... but we will probably have to find out the hard way, when we have a cosmic threat that is to great for man to resolve on his own. Then they will have every right to intervene and work with those who accept them. It's all about adaptation and being spiritually moral to another life form that may very well be responsible for man's ascension.

reply to post by NotAnAspie

I believe they want to facilitate a slow, willing change... and with cosmic natural threats...

A. Do you believe visiting aliens are intelligent?
B. Do you believe humans are intelligent, even if we aren't as smart as these visiting aliens.

Okay, now think back in history on the slow and willing changes we made with the American Indian. Think on what happened when the Spanish Conquistadors carried a disease to the Mayans. Never mind the disease, the Spanish would've enslaved the people to get as much gold as possible had they not died off.

Intelligence is borne out of need and not curiosity.

reply to post by jiggerj


Need for what? If they can travel billions of miles then I'm sure they have figured out some form of unlimited energy and have no need for our resources.

Slaves? I'm sure they have robots that do everything for them already.

Our planet? I'm not sure why they'd want this planet after all we've done to it.

Then again, maybe you're right, I have no idea.

They use stargates, and only some of the lower tech ones use alternative energies, and hyperspace. Others just open the portal and come in, wherever they wish.

Not to mention our Einstein physics, its all wrong. His formula's werent used by the Creator. Try more along the lines of Keely, Walter Russel, Tesla, and Bohm had some things to say about what he observed in his nuclear studies, relating to this being a screen where a higher dimensions projects our universe on, so along the lines of Holographic Reality School.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Why do you believe the mainstream apparatus of Christianity?

By scrolling up you will see that I just told EarthCitizen07 to doubt everything in the mainstream apparatus.

That includes religion BTW.

Problem is, MOST of us aren't interested in arguing over semantics all day long.

reply to post by Murgatroid


What part of Christianity's teachings do you question or not trust?

Jesus dying for our sins? Nope.

The bible is the word of god? Nope.

Jesus was born from a virgin and did all those magic tricks? Nope.

So, what exactly about Christianity do you not believe?

Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

I believe they want to facilitate a slow, willing change... and with cosmic natural threats...

A. Do you believe visiting aliens are intelligent?
B. Do you believe humans are intelligent, even if we aren't as smart as these visiting aliens.

Okay, now think back in history on the slow and willing changes we made with the American Indian. Think on what happened when the Spanish Conquistadors carried a disease to the Mayans. Never mind the disease, the Spanish would've enslaved the people to get as much gold as possible had they not died off.

Intelligence is borne out of need and not curiosity.

edit on 7/29/2013 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)

A. Yes.

B. Yes, in many cases... which is why there is a potential to work it out instead of completely going back to the drawing board. So far, man is the most intelligent life form that populates this planet so there is a great potential collaboration there. An interesting dance of fate.

I never said ETs didn't have needs, but they are well aware of them and have them well calculated.
Of course I'm only referring to the ones I'm aware of that are communicating and are around here... somewhere.

reply to post by Unity_99


The "screen" you mentioned is your image, what you see.

You are a 4D entity projecting a 3D shadow of yourself in the form of the image you see, or the universe.

I tried to gain some understanding of the differences between demons and aliens.
I came to the conclusion that the meanings and definitions behind these entities are beyond human scope and perception and therefore nothing definitive can be comprehended without the help of outside sources like ancient texts, scrolls, plates, channeling, etc. And that's assuming the information contained therin is valid.

Let's take a look at the head "demon" himself, Lucifer.
The Urantia book describes him as this:

LUCIFER was a brilliant primary Lanonandek Son of Nebadon. He had experienced service in many systems, had been a high counselor of his group, and was distinguished for wisdom, sagacity, and efficiency. Lucifer was number 37 of his order, and when commissioned by the Melchizedeks, he was designated as one of the one hundred most able and brilliant personalities in more than seven hundred thousand of his kind.

www.urantiabook.org...

Now this is before the war in heaven in which he fell.
For those who don't know, Nebadon is our local universe.
Above it states that he was commissioned by the Melchizedeks.
From the Keylontic Dictionary, which I believe information was gathered from the CDT Plates, describes Melchizedeks or rather the Melchizedek Cloister Eieyani as:

The Eieyani Collective responsible for seeding life into our Time Matrix is called Melchizedek Cloister Eieyani or MC Eieyani.

www.keylonticdictionary.org...

And Lucifer had dominion over 607 inhabited worlds in this particular sector of the universe:

Lucifer was not an ascendant being; he was a created Son of the local universe, and of him it was said: “You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you.” Many times had he been in counsel with the Most Highs of Edentia. And Lucifer reigned “upon the holy mountain of God,” the administrative mount of Jerusem, for he was the chief executive of a great system of 607 inhabited worlds.

www.urantiabook.org...

The angels Michael, Gabriel and the like are among this higher echelon of beings whom are "ANGELIC".

The particular group of extrterrestrials, (created as a result of the seedings), who followed Lucifer and the bad guys are among this group which are seperate from the angelics:

The Annu-Elohim, Drakonian, Anunnaki, Budhara, THE-Tans, Wesedak, Wesedrak, and many other black hole Races who set forth dominion conquest of the stellar system (Star Gates) of our Time Matrix.
The Gold Order Seraphei-Seraphin reptilian Omicron Race from D-10 Lyra-Vega began to digress and became known as the “Fallen Seraphim”, the forefathers of the contemporary D-10 Orion-Drakonian Fallen Angelic Legion.

www.keylonticdictionary.org...

According to the CDT Plates this stuff started happening 100's of billions of years ago.
One can get lost going through all of that information but if we take this info at face value, then the differences between aliens and demons can be clearly seen. Notice that the fallen races are reffered to as "black hole races" which could indicate interdimentional BUT still extraterrestial and organic in origin.

reply to post by jiggerj

Not demons, but with an utter disregard for the human animal.

Daaaaamn ! Jigger that smarts.
It's posts like this that make me
comfy in my spiritual skin just fine.

reply to post by boymonkey74


The greys are very wicked and untrustworthy they might as well be demons, from what I've heard, and to encounter one (or more) is to experience a state of absolute terror. Aside from them the rest are ok I think, but not the greys.

angels and demons are the aliens, our ancestors didnt understand what they were so they just made up their own words to describe what they were