Please for the sake of humanity stop this Aliens are Demons nonsense.

Originally posted by Deetermined
We know from the Old Testament that angels were capable of taking on human form in order to visit Abraham and Lot. Demons have the ability to "transform" too.

- Thousands of years ago, aliens visited earth.
- The uneducated peasants said they were 'angels' because they didnt' know other worlds than Earth existed.
- Just because 5 thousand years ago the peasants told a story from their limited understanding, doesn't mean it was scientifically accurate.

And when we hear of the Nephilim .. Theologically and scientifically speaking ... demons and angels are not capable of procreation. They are etherial. They are not solid flesh and blood. They are different species from us and different species can't procreate. Therefore, these had to be offspring of flesh and blood aliens who are physically compatible with humans. Which raises the question .. how are they physically compatible ... obviously we are of the same species somewhere in our lineage. We humans are the offspring of aliens. Probably an experiment of some kind ....

Side note .. if you want to quote scripture then quote Jesus when he said that when people die they will live 'like the angels' and not be married. Angels (and demons are fallen angels) can't pro-create. This kills the notion that the Nephilim were from angels .. they were really from aliens.

IMHO

reply to post by boymonkey74


Boymonkey.... I could not agree with your sentiments more. The whole Aliens are Deamons thing is touted mostly by those who understand neither the merest thing about faith, nor the merest thing about outer space, or anything that happens in it. Its these sorts of dweebs who hundreds of years ago, would have maintained that the Earth was a flat disc, and that the Sun orbits the Earth. Shame of it is, many of them probably cannot spell Moron, although its the only way to describe them in less than a whole sentence.

If you guys want to know more about spirit and souls(that's what we are--our bodies are just the containers) read the information below from a contactee for an Extraterrestrial organization known as the Andromedan Council below:

www.andromedacouncil.com...

What about the people who wish to continue to live 3D, third dimensional lives. What about them?

ANSWER: First a point of reference - if people are physically on planet Earth in early January 2014 - they will, most will, at minimum become 4D, fourth dimensional, people. Some will, because of their soul & spirit origin essence, and current level of higher vibration, become 5D, fifth dimensional people. Please keep in mind, the raising of the vibrational frequency of this solar system, including planet Earth, is just part of its destiny, its planned evolution.

Now, as to the approximate fifty percent (50%) (+-5%) of the people who will want to choose to remain 3D and continue to live third dimensional lives: they will have the ability to choose, or not, keep in mind this is all about free will choice, to relocate to an alternative, pristine, virgin 3D world much like Earth was before it became industrialized. This planet is also located in the Milky Way galaxy like planet Earth. As to where it is located - think of this galaxy as a "pinwheel". With this pinwheel laying horizontally on it side, as a reference point, Earth is located at 7:00, on a spiral arm, as you would look at a round clock face. This new 3D world is located at around 10:00 on a clock face on a completely different pinwheel spiral arm. People who choose to travel to this world will be provided with an advanced notice for departure sometime during the Summer 2013, approximately five (5) months before January 2014. Understand, there will be a travel - transition/adjustment - period of about '10-12 years', based on how we currently calculate time. This travel - transition/adjustment - period will be necessary because, keep in mind, all of the people traveling on this biosphere together to their new home world... they will come from all across Earth, from many countries, from all varieties of cultures, languages, mores, beliefs and ways of living. They will need this time to adjust to each other. They will also learn during the this trip what their new world will be like, and what life will be like... on their new home world together.

In addition, they will also be taught the ground rules for this new planet which include: there will be absolutely NO DISRESPECT to this planet allowed. There will be no: littering, dumping of wastes, toxic or not, absolutely no polluting of this planet, no abuse, no stripping or raping of its natural resources. These kind of activities will not be tolerated or allowed. Finally, for these 3D Earth people once they are living on this new world - they will be given, have access to, and use of many new advanced, completely clean, highly energy efficient technologies. They will, should they choose to, be able to live out their lives and thrive quite comfortably & peacefully... on this beautiful virgin world, their new home.

reply to post by FlyersFan


From my understanding modern day humans are the offspring of the federation of light aliens that have settled in this solar system and beyond. The orion group aka nephelim are the stronger alien race that are malicious and domineering.

Jesus was an elohim project belonging to the federation of light aliens. We are being saved from the orion group(nephelim) that inhabit and control this planet in limited numbers. Heaven means the stars while hell means earth. Earth is a prison planet it seems.

Both nephelim and elohim CAN PROCREATE when materialised in three dimensional form and live much longer lifespans than humans do. They can teleport, communicate telepathically, have better weapons, etc.

Just watching sci-fi movies helps everyones imagination, which could very well be reality.

Originally posted by superluminal11
No such thing as demons but I could see why you would think so looking at the reptilian species.

Demons is simply a generic term for bad aliens.

Angels is simply a generic term for good aliens.

Modern day humans resemble the good aliens, but the elite seem to have made an alliance with the bad aliens, thus stalling progress and even trying to make humans go backwards.

Why the confusion? Probably cause the church wants people to believe in superstitions rather than flesh and blood extra-terrestrials. The church is controlled just like every other major official governing body. You can be spiritual without being religious, and in fact this is the only way to go about being saved. Ironically the mainstream religious followers are getting dammed rather than saved. Pitty!



The exact opposite is true of this preposterous sign.

reply to post by FlyersFan

And when we hear of the Nephilim .. Theologically and scientifically speaking ... demons and angels are not capable of procreation. They are etherial. They are not solid flesh and blood. They are different species from us and different species can't procreate. Therefore, these had to be offspring of flesh and blood aliens who are physically compatible with humans.

I agree with this, but I believe that the "sons of God" were from the line of Seth and the "daughters of men" or "sons of men" were from the line of Cain.

God always told Seth's line not to mix with Cain's line, which probably resulted in the "giants" or "nephilim", but I don't believe that it had anything to do with aliens. I don't believe that Cain was an alien or an actual offspring of Satan, as some people believe. I believe God allowed some kind of abnormal defect for the lines that crossed, when they weren't supposed to.

Jacques Valle and J. Alan Hynak came to the same conclusion. And they said the phenomena is inter-dimensional and not extra-terresteial.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


The conclusion that in their opinion the phenomenon was both inter-dimensional as well as extra-terrestrial.

A theoretical sentient being from another dimension isn't a demon.

Scientist Dr Jacques Vallee after 10 years of thorough study deduced that the critters are evil spiritual entities from an evil spiritual DIMENSION. J.Alen Hynek came to similar conclusions from his extensive familiarity at high levels with the phenomena.

reply to post by BO XIAN


Yet more of the same lies, they concluded an inter-dimensional aspect as well as extra-terrestrial.

To the religious minded inter-dimensional automatically means demon.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

You can be spiritual without being religious, and in fact this is the only way to go about being saved. Ironically the mainstream religious followers are getting dammed rather than saved. Pitty!

Likewise. The spiritual are getting damned as well. Being spiritual doesn't keep people from sinning and committing evil acts, no more than the religious. All of us have the ability to choose for ourselves how to live and behave regardless of which category you fall into.

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

I know right?

We don't even have evidence they exist yet... but the bloody religionists are set to dish out exorcisms already?

I think if they ever decide to show up... they're gonna be zappin a lot of believers with the deathray!

Of course we have evidence! It says right there in my Commentaries on the Bible that aliens are demons!
But this isn't just a religious thing. John Keel was a huge proponent of this theory, and he was an atheist.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Side note .. if you want to quote scripture then quote Jesus when he said that when people die they will live 'like the angels' and not be married. Angels (and demons are fallen angels) can't pro-create. This kills the notion that the Nephilim were from angels .. they were really from aliens.

IMHO

edit on 7/29/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)

Jesus said "the angels in heaven." Pretty much everyone who is a proponent of the Nephilim theory is well aware of that verse, and they choose to interpret it not to include the fallen angels who "came down" and bore offspring.

Criticizing the theory is all very well and good, but there's really no hard-and-fast magic-bullet Biblical proof as to why angels and human's couldn't interbreed. The early Reformers, if I understand correctly, rejected the notion because it did not fit in with the matter-and-spirit paradigm of the day, which wasn't theologically based but rather philosophically based.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

And when we hear of the Nephilim .. Theologically and scientifically speaking ... demons and angels are not capable of procreation. They are etherial. They are not solid flesh and blood. They are different species from us and different species can't procreate. Therefore, these had to be offspring of flesh and blood aliens who are physically compatible with humans.

I agree with this, but I believe that the "sons of God" were from the line of Seth and the "daughters of men" or "sons of men" were from the line of Cain.

God always told Seth's line not to mix with Cain's line, which probably resulted in the "giants" or "nephilim", but I don't believe that it had anything to do with aliens. I don't believe that Cain was an alien or an actual offspring of Satan, as some people believe. I believe God allowed some kind of abnormal defect for the lines that crossed, when they weren't supposed to.

I view god and satan as 'generals' of warring alien factions in this galaxy and perhaps beyond that can exist on many dimensions. What an alien is, is relative to the person making such determination. When we view ufos many of us think aliens. Likewise the ancient humans saw ufos(described in various ways) and considered the nephelim as aliens.

Remember earth and our solar system has been settled by federation of light(elohim 'humans') and later infiltrated by the orion group(nephelim non humans). The giants imo probably had nothing to do with inter-breeding elohim with nephelim. How can elohim be compatible with nephelim, it would be like a dog mating with a cat.

The giants might have been special creatures designed by nephelim to control humans. Something like biological robots. We also have mythological accounts of unicorns, mermaids, centaurs, etc.

Who knows what in the old testament is real and what is fake? I think there is more noise(disinformation) than an actual worthwhile signal.

While there are demon pretenders, they are wolves in sheeps clothing or master of disguise beings, for there are REAL Ets, family and friends.

*IF* aliens are actually inter-dimensional beings (spirits)

reply to post by arpgme


What is this assumption of anything inter-dimensional being a spirit?

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Elohim are not humans. It refers to God or gods.

It would be very naive to pretend like we know what this alien or ET or whatever they are purposes are.Could be good and evil forces and supernatural beings of some sort.Could be from another planet or simply can live in outerspace.Might be demons and angels we don't know what they are.

reply to post by Morg234


Exactly. Vallee said the phenomena exhibit both physical and non-physical properties (the only reasonable hypothesis being interdimensional), and can transition from one to the other. As another poster also said, he put forth hypotheses, not conclusions.

Accounts also exist for contact and 'abductions' that were described as positive events. Vallee himself mentioned Doctor X who had a paradigm shift in perspective. I have also heard about them in some cases first seeking permission before doing any intervention.

It has been said before, and it might help to say it again, that humans are extra-'terrestrial' (from the point of view of those that are on other planets who regard their own planet as Earth) and inter-dimensional, and not just from the point of view of the 'fabric' of space-time itself to which nothing is an exception, but also as the origin of awareness and consciousness itself.

There can be no question that wherever entities are found, some will be bound by ignorance and therefore act to perpetuate that ignorance and self-harm, while others are working out of that in progressive stages of greater insight. Observe humanity, or your own mind, to see evidence of this right here and now.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

The giants might have been special creatures designed by nephelim to control humans.

Nephilim is the Hebrew word for giants. They are one and the same.

Only God is capable of creating. Angels and "gods" are not.

Originally posted by Joneselius
Still not changing my stance on this.

Who here, who has posted, has had a close encounter with a UFO? And I mean a close one, not one up in the sky somewhere. A real, close encounter with one?

I have. And I can tell you now, I've never felt so drained of all hope and happiness as I was watching that wretched thing move about. Nothing about it was 'wonderful' or 'mysterious'. It was massively oppressive and terrifying. If you'd bother, you'd know that most abductees have cited ONE way to stop an abdcution, ONE, that's to call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord. Isn't that a little odd? Doesn't that ring as off somewhere?

Does it ring as true when the vast majority of alien encounters evoking religion state that the 'aliens' are telling people that Christianity is wrong and that Jesus isn't real? Why not Allah? Buddha? Brahman? Why Jesus? Nothing strange about that?

Why don't they land and reveal themselves? Because some of us will call them demons, don't be absurd. That's a ridiculous claim to make. We'd simply rebuke them. Any professing Christian worth his salt isn't going to attack them as violence is forbidden. We're to love our enemy. Not bludgeon him.

They don't land because they have something to HIDE. They don't show themselves because they're repulsive. And they wont communicate with us because people would figure them out, when their 'prophecies' come to naught..... They are demonic to me, always will be.

If I could star and flag a post, this would be it
Secrets are hidden for a reason

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Elohim are not humans. It refers to God or gods.

And what are gods then?

Who determines what god(s) is/are, and based on what exactly?

we are making a circular arguement if we believe in superstitions.