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So, from a strictly materialist viewpoint, I should say that 'deceptions' – optical illusions, false perceptions, hallucinations and all the rest – are products of the interactive system of brain and sensory apparatus, or more broadly of brain and body. There's no way to pull them apart and show where the deception originates.
The senses are also not an exact "reality-reader" either, but if you consider the 'holographic universe' theory, the mind is really creating this all thing, so it has the ability to deceive even the senses.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
I haven't seen anybody yet mention the relationship between raw sensory data and abstract conceptualization (or thought constructs). .
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.
Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates their own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underrates the abilities of their opponents (the "outgroup").
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by Shuye
What interprets the body?
Originally posted by Shuye
reply to post by Astyanax
What I mean is that once you take the mind out of the body it becomes a plant. The mind translates the signals which arrives at the senses, and forges a response (let it be cognitive or physical) but every response is mind
relatedcreated, just as every move you currently make, including typing the words on the keyboard and observing the screen is mind related. The body does not and cannot do nearly a thing without the mind.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by Shuye
Are you quite clear about the distinction here between mind and brain? What you posted shows how important the brain is to the body. It says nothing about the necessity or even the existence of mind.
Originally posted by Bluesma
I am interested in your view here, but think I am missing something in it- what about all the biological processes like respiratory, digestive, circulation of blood and lymph..... the beating of the heart, for example? These processes all go on without the mind becoming involved.
Ôr else, what do you mean when you write "mind"? Do you just mean "brain", or do you include both conscious and subconscious thought?
Sorry about my misinterpretation, like I said for me the brain equals mind, cognition (thought, memory, imagination), conscious, subconscious, unconscious, etc. The brain seems to be the only part that's working continuously and forming the reality for us a millisecond after millisecond.
You're blaming our brains for misinterpreting data that our other sensory organs have already misinterpreted.