Eat My Flesh Drink My Blood. John 6:54

Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by Akragon

 

I took a long hard look at the eucharistic miracle when I was there. There were no wires or tubes going into the case. The Eucharist was pressed between two pieces of glass. Suspended there. The blood was fresh and pink on the Eucharist. The Eucharist was suspended (but still pressed) between the plates of glass. It was rather solid.

The 'fire' look ... yes ... it kinda glowed .... it looked to be coming from the eucharist itself.

It seemed very authentic to me at the time. I still think it is ...

fair enough hun...

I wouldn't doubt what you say you saw...

I suppose I would have to see it myself

reply to post by leeda

John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life,

What is your take on what Jesus means to eat his flesh and drink his blood.

This was when he had fed the multitude with five loaves and two fish.
He was proclaimed a great prophet, not because of what he was saying, but the physical food he miraculously provided.
He wasn't too happy, realizing that many people were more interested in the material goodies they thought that the expected one would bring with him.
He wanted to emphasize the close relationship one needs, if they were ever going to get anything from him, believing not just in his person, but the lifegiving spirit in him from God, and the way of life one enters in through his words abiding in you.

What if it's like the transference of genetic information? I had this day dream once in my dads bird aviary. I saw colors swapping between birds the colors i figured to be genetics. I called it eating the flesh at the time even though I was like 12 and had never heard the expression before, i'm 35 now. It was also better to give than to receive.

It's hard to say what the truth is when perception can be altered so easily in anyone.

So Jesus came to earth in human form. He broadcast his genetics to others and they ate of it. By him broadcasting his genetics he evolved further as while you eat his flesh you are actually coding him or something at the same time as coding yourself, (I use coding loosely). This is why it's better to give than receive, more coding for yourself gets done if you give. If you receive a color, you code yourself and the sender at the same time to extract information but less of yourself gets coded as you can only extract so much. It's also like a chain of supply. With some having parts that others need and vice versa. The amount of information to make a whole is immense. You can choose not to do the coding and therefore hold someone else up but I think this is only a temporary thing and the only loser is the one who didn't code as the person I think can manually code what he needs themselves but it takes forever. This is like woe to you who shut the kingdom of heaven in mens faces. You choose not to code because there's kind of a trade system going. If you code later it can be more beneficial than coding straight away. You can kind of see the benefits that coding from a colour swap will bring before you have them. Birds can code humans but not a whole it takes many birds. A human can code 1 whole bird and have him complete I think. The computational power comes from giving and receiving and by far surpasses the computation that you can do on your own under your own steam.

This was birds eating flesh. A daydream.

I blame the Govt and Tech for this daydream. Looking back.

You could figure the colours were information or knowledge, it definitely caused growth.

The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh. Revelation 19:21

That scripture was not literal (as most things Yahoshua said in scripture aren't). It is not transmogrification or the eucharist or any of the foolishness of religion.It is futile to "search" the scriptures for what it means.It was a statement of the Truth not something to be deciphered then applied religiously to life to be in"communion" with God.

Originally posted by leeda
John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life,


What is your take on what Jesus means to eat his flesh and drink his blood.

He's obviously not being literal and referring to cannibalism so really what is he talking about.

I can't even imagine what he's referring to.

How do you eat his flesh and drink his blood?

Is it still possible to do this today?

It would be a good meal if you could work it out, for his flesh is real food and his blood is real drink.

So honestly how do you eat the flesh of Jesus and how do you drink his blood? Is it something to do with power?

Now I guess I don't expect you to know but it would be nice to see how people are thinking.

Do we have to suffer to eat and drink his flesh?

In the scriptures it says "which anyone may eat" so I guess anyone is able to do this.

But how.

This is a mystery of Jesus.

Jesus is obviously talking about something that he knows about and we don't but he keeps it hidden just using the words eat my flesh and drink my blood.

Can we eat and drink each others flesh apart from Jesus?

How do we eat this bread of life? It should make us feel great as it is true nourishment indeed. But how.


Revelation 19:21 and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
Is this the same thing. Is this scripture in Revelations also not being literal after the rider on the horse kills the army?


I guess i'm not really expecting an answer because unless you've seen something to know what Jesus is talking about then how could you possibly know. Your just guessing like me.

What are your takes on what Jesus means by eating his flesh and drinking his blood?

I'm baffled and truly don't know.

If you can solve this then you probably have eternal life according to Jesus.

Don't Catholics take the wafer and juice thinking it's his blood and body. I don't think that's it.

I think there would be power or knowledge involved but just guessing really.

. [color=gold] What do you think?

What's your take?

Try and solve this mystery with me.

This is asking for the Revelation.

Not to be given out lightly.
Not to be cast before the unworthy.
Not to be shared with those who rage.
Not to be placed where mud still splatters.

What prize is brought forward to claim such knowing?


Mike

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by leeda

 

The blood and flesh symbolise "his life, how he lived it...and what he taught"...

Its actually quite simple when one doesn't let religion and preachers twist the meaning...

Did you ever hear the one about the guy who was unhappy at a wedding?


Mike

Originally posted by rickymouse

. [color=gold] Werewolfs and vampires

1499 German woodcut showing Dracule waide dining among the impaled corpses of his victims.

Internalizing violence can do damage to the soul.

For instance, consider how the military handles a Seal Team. The team is sent out on a mission, maybe they kill some people, then after the mission they are debriefed. Their actions are judged, they report their kills, and then they are returned to regular duty.

This is not just a method of oversight. It is also a tool of socialization, and normalization of the soldiers. They learn what is acceptable in which circumstances, and the debriefing serves as a bridge to bring them back into a more normal population.



Now consider the average American TV viewer.
A hundred thousand hours of watching tens of thousands of murders and violent acts, with zero debriefing time.


Eating in front of the TV causes the soul to internalize what they experience. This is why so much of the new testament is against offering food to idols, eating food prepared for “the show” and suggests that fasting is the path to regain self control.

Just think of the gruesome stuff we see,
all on the screen,
while eating.


Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy


Where are you getting that from?

Any verses you can point to?

Originally posted by mikegrouchy

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by leeda

 

The blood and flesh symbolise "his life, how he lived it...and what he taught"...

Its actually quite simple when one doesn't let religion and preachers twist the meaning...

Did you ever hear the one about the guy who was unhappy at a wedding?

Mike

Can't say that I have... perhaps you could elaborate?

Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

Where are you getting that from?

Any verses you can point to?

That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
- Acts 15:29


As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
- 1 Corinthians 8:4


Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
- 1 Corinthians 11:27


I remember back in the 70's the Grandmas and Grandpas
made a big deal about not eating in front of the TV,
about sitting down around the table to eat
together. As a family.

Years later in College, I had a house and several room mates.
The mother of one came by to pick up her son, and I don't
know what she was expecting, but when she came into
the living room she remarked on the dining room table
she could see though the archway. It had a nice
lace table cloth on it, I had bought in Mexico
for five bucks, but it looks top notch.
Hand made, and white.

"Do you mean to tell me that ya'll actually sit down
like gentlemen and eat dinner?!"

"Yes."

After she left, I realized she hadn't even noticed
that there was no TV in the house.


Mike

Originally posted by Akragon

Originally posted by mikegrouchy

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by leeda

 

The blood and flesh symbolise "his life, how he lived it...and what he taught"...

Its actually quite simple when one doesn't let religion and preachers twist the meaning...

Did you ever hear the one about the guy who was unhappy at a wedding?

Mike

Can't say that I have... perhaps you could elaborate?

He was crucified.


Mike

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o...k?

Ever hear of that guy who made a bad joke that wasn't even close to the topic of the thread?

Look in the mirror for the solution

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

o...k?

Ever hear of that guy who made a bad joke that wasn't even close to the topic of the thread?

Look in the mirror for the solution

Wait... you don't get it?

Reflect on it a little more.

Unhappy at a wedding.... crucified.



/ah never mind.

From your posting history I thought for sure
you would have the soul and insight to see it without being told.

/shrug

Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy


hmmm... Sorry brother you got me stumped on this one...

im all for a good joke, but that was nothing like a good joke...

Perhaps im missing the punchline?

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

hmmm... Sorry brother you got me stumped on this one...

im all for a good joke, but that was nothing like a good joke...

Perhaps im missing the punchline?

Oh, no, you're right on that point.
No laughing matter indeed.

But we are talking about the ultimate mystery here.

And the day after;
the wicked will be burned,
burned by the scorn and laughter of those who see them
for what they are. I mean, what other reason can those
people that crucified him claim. That Jesus was preaching
without a license? That he was leading a rebellion?
No, the story of his adulthood, starts at the wedding.


Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy


I was referring to:

Originally posted by mikegrouchy

This is asking for the Revelation.

Not to be given out lightly.
Not to be cast before the unworthy.
Not to be shared with those who rage.
Not to be placed where mud still splatters.

What prize is brought forward to claim such knowing?

Mike

It seems like you're saying we should keep our understandings hidden from those who might be unworthy.

Normally, I would say bs to that idea, but Jesus himself spoke in parables for that very reason... So, I ask, where does it read that we too should practice secret keeping. How can we dare judge who is worthy?

Originally posted by mikegrouchy

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

hmmm... Sorry brother you got me stumped on this one...

im all for a good joke, but that was nothing like a good joke...

Perhaps im missing the punchline?

Oh, no, you're right on that point.
No laughing matter indeed.

But we are talking about the ultimate mystery here.

And the day after;
the wicked will be burned,
burned by the scorn and laughter of those who see them
for what they are. I mean, what other reason can those
people that crucified him claim. That Jesus was preaching
without a license? That he was leading a rebellion?
No, the story of his adulthood, starts at the wedding.

Mike

edit on 3-8-2013 by mikegrouchy because: (no reason given)

SO if im understanding you correctly... You're saying those that mock Jesus will go to hell?

Correct me if im wrong...

I find It interesting that you seem to know my posting history.... yet haven't realised I don't believe "hell" exists... at least in the way your typical Christian views the idea

Originally posted by FinalCountdown
He was referring to the "body of god" literally, but God is a psychedelic mushroom.
When man ate this mushroom he became enlightened and aware that he was a human and that he was naked.

Then why weren't mushrooms served at the last supper.
Why did Jesus break bread and say "This is my body?"



Psyche is a Roman Goddess. Jesus kept saying "My Father"
and "Our Father." Not Mother.


Cupid and Psyche

And if so, is that suggesting that Cupid was Jesus' Father?
Then why have his words resonated with peoples, tribes,
nations, and tongues across the world and through the age?



Or are you referring to the "it" as in the man-in-the-trees,
or the jaguar-spirit-guide. That elusive space between
perception and awareness where living things are
sometimes perceived?



I think perhaps you
are advocating "faith no more."



As to hallucination making one self aware.
I find that to be the opposite of the reality.
Look at the burned out acid heads from
the 70's. Walking around on the beach
with unkempt beards and mumbling.


Mike

Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

I was referring to:

Originally posted by mikegrouchy

This is asking for the Revelation.

Not to be given out lightly.
Not to be cast before the unworthy.
Not to be shared with those who rage.
Not to be placed where mud still splatters.

What prize is brought forward to claim such knowing?

Mike

It seems like you're saying we should keep our understandings hidden from those who might be unworthy.

Normally, I would say bs to that idea, but Jesus himself spoke in parables for that very reason... So, I ask, where does it read that we too should practice secret keeping. How can we dare judge who is worthy?

Yet when Morpheus says "I can only show you the door, you are the one who has to walk through it"
no one complains, and the audience nods along knowingly.

"How can we dare judge?"

Whom is judging who here?


Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy

Matthew 15
11 What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.

In other words, you can eat whatever you want.