Daring to be Different in the Black Community

Originally posted by ipsedixit
To the OP I would say thanks for the post. There are always people on the cutting edge of social change and it is never easy. You are there among the first generation of blacks who feel that society is something they can navigate in without the heavy solidarity of the black community behind them. That is progress for society as a whole. But having said that . . .

It wasn't easy being of the generations who worked so hard to galvanize and bring together the black community into large cohesive units to fight oppression either. They were you . . . a generation or two ago.

I would say honor them, as I'm sure you do . . . and make sure that they know you know where they are coming from. If you can, communicate to them that the only reason you can do what you are doing is because their struggle was successful.

You can be you because of a battle they fought and won.

In a way, you are a "messenger from the front" bringing news of a victory to them. Maybe you can help them to relax a little as individuals and be more confident of themselves and the society their struggle helped to create.

Good luck.

quoted for importance.

I hope the OP reads this post.
I know wisdom when i see it.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Yeah, I guess this thread is a huge, hateful, patronizing, white supremacy orgy and nothing more.

No, just patronizing and putting one on pedestal and crapping on other.

Let's all pet butter cookie in the head She's a good black woman. Unlike the rest of her culture! Bunch of uneducated savages I tell ya!

What a patronizing thread.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by luciddream

"hey look at me, i abandoned my culture(which i was taught to be bad), i am better person now because i got my guidance from some other culture"

What?

So if I eat Tacos, Burritos, and Taquitos all the time that means I abandoned my other heritages?

Does the color of my skin prohibit this blasphemy?

You don't own a culture because of your race, and your race doesn't force you to follow their accustomed traditions either.

Everyone has the freedom to explore and learn about and enjoy every culture globally. You have no way to stop them. Hate them if you choose, won't make anything better though.

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How does the OP putting down her family and rationalizing slavery and looking at the black community as a sinking ship that deserves to drown (for its ignorance and hate because according to her the majority of all racism she's ever known about has been perpetrated by blacks) equate with "eating tacos burritos and taquitos all the time"? Was that a serious post? Should we ask her if she "still" eats fried chicken and collard greens for every meal?

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

So if I eat Tacos, Burritos, and Taquitos all the time that means I abandoned my other heritages?

This is exactly what i mean, people are predisposed to think. uneducated, playing victims, is black culture. i mean, according to many posters here, that what she abandoned right? so people who think like that, will assume that only abandoning these things can make you better. thus black culture is bad.

But in fact those traits are not exclusive to black culture yet OP looks at these thing are black culture and we have people supporting that.

Show us where the OP says "Only black people play victims"?

If they said that it is messed up and I cannot agree with it because everyone plays a victim especially these days.

But I never actually saw them say that.

reply to post by olaru12

After a thousands pages of trashing black people and Trevon Martin in particular; it's a love fest because a black person has seen the light and agrees with the white people.

It's a love fest because there is one person of color who has admitted to the world that you cannot get anywhere in life if you have ignorant speech and a victim mentality.

When was the last time you heard one member of congress speak in afro slang?
Have you ever heard of any company grow beyond one corner store with the employees speaking afro slang?

There are some simple facts in the world that no one wants to teach.

reply to post by luciddream

some people see it as encouraging, but i see it as patronizing. I would never want someone coming and telling me my culture is bad and i should take up someone else's. Those people probably does not understand the culture or see it as what media wants them to see it as, a less inferior ways.

Are we not the "melting pot" of many cultures? What about Chinese, Italian, East Indian, Korean, Polish, German, Irish? These are just some of the immigrants who came to America to make a better life? These people established restaurants displaying the cuisine of their various cultures.
Who is patronizing who on culture?
By the way, I attended an annual folk festival yesterday, and one stage had two groups of people, both were gospel music. One side was an all white group with banjo and fiddle bluegrass style and the other was an all black quintet singing gospel barbershop style. Their voices were so deep and melodic it touched everyone there. The groups took turns and then at the end did one song including everyone from both groups. You should have heard the applause.
I think if people stopped perpetuating division, lots of people would get along just fine.

Originally posted by Amagnon
reply to post by ButterCookie

 

While Im sure you mean well - all I have to say is, who cares if you are a black woman? Why do you need to identify yourself by your race?

When do I start my posts with 'Im a Venusian hemaphrodite'?

Things will only change when people begin to see how ridiculous it is to even mention your race or sex - it simply doesnt matter - how you act, how you treat people - those things matter - the rest is just a coat of paint.

Well, the suject of the thread would be a LITTLE confusng had I not stated that....

reply to post by muse7


As much as I agree with your post...

Unlike the rest of her culture! Bunch of uneducated savages I tell ya!

As opposed to??? The uneducated savages are in all shapes, sizes and colors and uneducated doesn't mean that they didn't attend collage either.

Put a human from every single human race in a 20x20 room and put a single butter cookie in the middle and I gaurentee that every one of them will show you there savage nature.

Just saying.

Originally posted by Baddguy
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

yes i have been in that back of a squad car...for "disorderly conduct because i called the officer inhumane and e got pissed...like i wanted him to be

but yea..have you ever??

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because if you havent, your view may be skewed

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I have been as a young man. It was my own fault entirely. extra DIV