Reports: 777 crash lands at San Francisco

reply to post by badgerprints


It is. I don't know of another plane that this far into it's service that has not had a fatality, and has only had two crashes. These planes are flying all over the world every day on every long haul route imaginable, including China to London, and they just keep going.

Originally posted by badgerprints
Well, heck.
Maybe It was another model.
Guess I should have done some looking.

OK,
I'm full of it.
Experts say it's one of the safest planes in the world.
Even the ones that have crashed.

Don't mind me.
I've learned my lesson.

Which 777's have crashed? Please do tell?
And how many have died in those crashes?

Could be a case of incompetant pilots trying a cross-wind landing. Or a sudden gust of wind trying to flip it over.

Hopefully most people are ok, if not everyone.



this one landed at 45d angle and then straightened out after touchdown, damm almost flipped.

Originally posted by abecedarian

Originally posted by badgerprints
Well, heck.
Maybe It was another model.
Guess I should have done some looking.

OK,
I'm full of it.
Experts say it's one of the safest planes in the world.
Even the ones that have crashed.

Don't mind me.
I've learned my lesson.

Which 777's have crashed? Please do tell?
And how many have died in those crashes?

edit on 7/6/2013 by abecedarian because: (no reason given)

Huh,
Can't get it to post.

"Boeing 777 that crash landed at Heathrow is one of the safest aeroplanes in the world, say experts"

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Any way,
I was incorrect about the plane type I was thinking of.
Apologies to Boeing.

From witnesses it sounds like it turned 360 then stopped. Also witness mentioned tail touching at end of runway where runway - water meet.

Sky news reporting now.

Looks as though plane came in and hit edge but did not flip

Big plane, descending for approach, moving a bit too slow so throttles and noses up just a little bit late.
... or ...
Big plane, descending for approach, gets sudden wind shear so noses and throttles up, but not in time.

There is a point of no return where the pilot must commit to one action or another, and sometimes the better option is a crash.

Looking at the pictures, it's clear that the plane is not on its back. But since the tail is missing, the observers may have thought it was upside down. I don't know.


It is unclear whether an emergency landing had been scheduled, but there were no emergency vehicles on the runway before the crash.


Boeing 777 crash lands at San Francisco airport

Whether an emergency landing had been scheduled was initially unclear. However, it is understood there were no emergency vehicles deployed on the runway.

Originally posted by badgerprintsHuh,
Can't get it to post.

"Boeing 777 that crash landed at Heathrow is one of the safest aeroplanes in the world, say experts"

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Guessing this: en.wikipedia.org...
Still... no one died.

The witness interviewed seemed to indicate a 360 yaw movement, not a cartwheel as others reported.

Originally posted by roadgravel
The witness interviewed seemed to indicate a 360 yaw movement, not a cartwheel as others reported.

360 yaw?

So the plane came in and spun 360 degrees horizontal, so at one point was travelling tail first?

Oh man.

Originally posted by abecedarian
Big plane, descending for approach, moving a bit too slow so throttles and noses up just a little bit late.
... or ...
Big plane, descending for approach, gets sudden wind shear so noses and throttles up, but not in time.

There is a point of no return where the pilot must commit to one action or another, and sometimes the better option is a crash.

edit on 7/6/2013 by abecedarian because: (no reason given)

So basically its vertical speed was too high and it bounced off the runway?

I realise its still early and most of it is speculation at best.

reply to post by Hellmutt


Next time I fly, I'm going to check if my plane is scheduled to do an emergency landing before I get on.

Actually that's a forgiving aircraft.....looks like it's indestructable....a beauty.
When I worked at Payne Field, the pilots taking the 777 home for uae, asian,korean and a few others I saw....one went out every three days.....those pilots some reason couldn't get the jet off the runway till way too late....
One was really scary....they wouldn't power up near as fast as the test crew, who would yank that thing up at angle going for the sky. couldn't even see nothing but bottom as I was at the north end by the paint hanger. The other pilots...were way slower going down the runway. And wouldn't get an angle... I questioned their....I'llshut up.

According to Fox news (I know ) eye witnesses are saying it cartwheeled after it hit the edge of the runway at a funny angle.

Amazed that so far no reports of injuries

Surely not another fuel problem?

reply to post by Beartracker16


I heard on Euronews (tv) that the plane made an emergency landing because of a fire on board. This is however, not clear yet.

Also it was scrolling across the bottom of the screen that there may have been a fire in the cargo hold?
I have not heard any reporters say anything about that though.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by abecedarian
Big plane, descending for approach, moving a bit too slow so throttles and noses up just a little bit late.
... or ...
Big plane, descending for approach, gets sudden wind shear so noses and throttles up, but not in time.

There is a point of no return where the pilot must commit to one action or another, and sometimes the better option is a crash.

edit on 7/6/2013 by abecedarian because: (no reason given)

So basically its vertical speed was too high and it bounced off the runway?

I realise its still early and most of it is speculation at best.

I don't know.
Only I can think that would cause it to lose the tail section though is the tail hit the ground first.
So, what situations would cause that?

Originally posted by abecedarian

Originally posted by badgerprintsHuh,
Can't get it to post.

"Boeing 777 that crash landed at Heathrow is one of the safest aeroplanes in the world, say experts"

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
777

Guessing this: en.wikipedia.org...
Still... no one died.

edit on 7/6/2013 by abecedarian because: (no reason given)

Well,
Experts say that they are an extremely safe plane even when they crash. I would hope that no one dying would be one of the main goals.