Nigeria school massacre: 41 children killed, some burned alive

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


Both of you are so right.

Fear is always the common denominator in these acts.

I also think people are under the impression at happens more often but I just think with the internet now days stories like these have a wider audience.

Nigeria has always been violent and crime in Egypt has always been random and violent.

Think its getting somewhat better if compared to what it was like in the past but still pretty messed up.

Bleh make me sick

okay time for a theory and a suggestion:

first the theory.

the muslim clerics, particularly those influenced by saudi arabia's wahabbism, are convincing their people of 2 things:

1. all white people are spies and christians (or jews.....or atheists or pagans or (fill in the blank) and are evil at the core. as a result, they must be overthrown, subjugated and their way of life (education, religions, etc) destroyed. this works particularly well in african nations who were abused at one time, by the british empire.

2. white people culture is bad, even if done by a brother of islam. in the name of socialism, many african nations have slaughtered and/or chased off most of the white population. you can see this in a more limited but still effective version in south africa, today. the driving force behind it in south africa, however, doesn't appear to be islam, but rather, socialism. this is an important thing they share in common with the other african nations who are systematically genociding white people or anything to do with white culture.

now for my suggestion:

muslim people are being used to help the elite, wipe out vast swaths of the population, BUT only those who are not socialist. if it's a white socialist, it's allowed to live but not for much longer if in africa or other nations where the population is predominantly not white

this is extremely important. hear me. if you are muslim, you need to get out of europe, the americas, russia, and the far east. because when this thing reaches the boiling point, you will blamed for all the ill done on the planet, most of which you did not personally do. or which your leaders were coerced or convinced to do by an evil entity that is evil far beyond the comprehension of anyone alive today.

and if you're white, you need to get out of any nation that is predominantly another race, not because your fellows are another race but because your fellows friends are being convinced you are the cause of all the sorrows on the planet. if you're in africa and white, get the hell out of there. pronto.

all of this is for one thing and one thing only: it isn't money, it isn't religion, it's down to the wire, it's population control.

use your brain

reply to post by Misbah

Islamists don't kill children, It doesn't matter what religion they belong to, It's a great sin for a Muslim to child an innocent child.

one's definition of "innocent" and "kill" must be called into account when a group will use children as "suicide" bombers.

don't get me wrong, i could care less what religion one subscribes to (within reason, i wouldn't support a death cult or something along those lines) so long as their actions are good and moral. i've been to mosques, witnessed the equivalent of a sermon, and had the chance to talk with decent and rational muslims, kids and parents alike.

the bottom line is that while most muslims are peaceful, i do not find their actions to be congruent with what is either contained in the qur'an or muhammad's actions. yes, most are peaceful and i am happy about that, but the peaceful ones do not follow the true examples that are set for them.

Originally posted by MidnightTide

How is it spreading propaganda?

Islam has a core of extremism that many Muslims appear to ignore. You can very well go and say this does not represent Islam but sorry to break it to you, but it does. A significant proportion of Muslims do practice an extremist form of Islam.

IIRC surveys posted on ATS . . . 20-70% by the most accurate surveys . . . depending on the region, country concerned.

When are the bulk of the purportedly benign to wonderful Muslims going to stand up and shut the others up and shut them down?

reply to post by undo


I don't fully agree with you but you have a couple of valid points.

I live in South Africa and I doubt white people will be rocking off soon; however, socialism/communism is destroying the country and using whites as their excuse for everything that goes wrong in country.

BUT....

People are becoming more educated by the day and the people in power will have to start coming up with better excuses for their failures.

Though, all things considered, there's a couple of scenarios that can make your theory plausible.

For instance if South Africa's economy, once the strongest in Africa, becomes weaker I'm sure some politician can figure out a way of using it as an excuse to kill and murder white people. Mugabe's done it.

But I'm don't agree its population control? Africas has a lot of people dying by the day without the aid of war on whites. AIDS, Starvation, Poverty and Crime?

Think the reason is that multiculturalism is failing all over the world because every race and creed wants to be dominant.

Think things will start to go south once all this political correct bs looses it's grip on people. Which sometimes seems to happen.

Originally posted by jiggerj

[color=CC9966]Islamists don't kill children because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists don't behead people because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists males aren't raping women around the world because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists don't fly planes into buildings because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists don't blow up people at marathons because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists don't beat their wives because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists don't honor kill their kids because that's not what Islamists do.
Islamists don't riot over cartoons because that's not what Islamists do.

The above is a complete set of lies, but here is one undeniable truth.

Islamists don't love their religion and their allah enough to go after those that use it for evil purposes. If you claim to be an Islamist and you allow these heinous crimes against humanity to persist, then you're just as guilty as they are.

Now ya gone and told it . . .

THE TRUTH.

Not that anyone that matters is listening . . . sadly.

.

reply to post by JosephPalasky


joseph

well consider: the elite, as we all know, are really not religious people. they are survival of the fittest guys. hard core science. materialism is only a means to an end. they don't care about our religion or the religion of any particular racial group. they only care about science. they don't want religious people in their societies and to prove their point, they have infiltrated religions and driven the people of that religion to do horrendous things that are actually against their own holy writs. this has happened all over the planet, to various religious groups. then this anti-social behavior is dragged out as evidence of why religion should be annihilated, and they plan to start with the more egregious examples but first, they gotta give everybody a nice long look at why its being done by encouraging migration of these groups into otherwise docile societies. holey rusted metal batman, you just have no idea.

by itself, science is awesome but when paired up with eugenics and an agenda, it's a monster. psychology is used to manipulate people into doing things that they would've never considered doing even a day before. or even a few hours before. and the media is used to really drive this all home. however, the end game is to lower the population, it's an added bonus if it also resolves to 1) fewer religious people and 2) fewer competitors for resources and 3) a socialist world order in which the masses are just slaves to the government.

population control on steroids.

Originally posted by Misbah
Islamists don't kill children, It doesn't matter what religion they belong to, It's a great sin for a Muslim to child an innocent child. Please stop spreading false reports on Muslims, the incident may have occurred, but there is no reason at all to say that it was "Islamists" who did it, because Muslims don't do such stuff. It doesn't matter where a Muslim lives, they don't kill children and it cannot be justified.

Spreading propaganda on Islam is not going to help you.

IMO: This attitude is where the problem starts.
Muslims are getting a bad name because 40% of you are becoming extremists, another 40% bury there
head in the sand or are in denial, while the other poor 20% are stuck in the middle!

There has been many report of children being killed or severely injured by Islamic extremist's, the poor girl shot in the head comes to mind.

reply to post by christafinias


and this is the real head scratcher:

don't they realize that it is the extremists who are furthering the agenda of the elite -- not hampering it, but actually making it happen. these guys are gonna bring the ire of the entire planet down on the heads of all muslims and eventually, all religions.

in effect, they are helping the world become atheistic, socialist slaves. this is why socialist regimes are supporting them. it's a means to an end.

reply to post by undo


Well, that soundtrack sucked for that video!



Yes Sweden does have its problems, but......................

Sweden didn't stop the immigration problem it had because it believed that those who were coming were going to assimilate into Swedish society. They were sadly mistaken.

Thanks for the Vid.

Originally posted by christafinias

Originally posted by Misbah
Islamists don't kill children, It doesn't matter what religion they belong to, It's a great sin for a Muslim to child an innocent child. Please stop spreading false reports on Muslims, the incident may have occurred, but there is no reason at all to say that it was "Islamists" who did it, because Muslims don't do such stuff. It doesn't matter where a Muslim lives, they don't kill children and it cannot be justified.

Spreading propaganda on Islam is not going to help you.

IMO: This attitude is where the problem starts.
Muslims are getting a bad name because 40% of you are becoming extremists, another 40% bury there
head in the sand or are in denial, while the other poor 20% are stuck in the middle!

There has been many report of children being killed or severely injured by Islamic extremist's, the poor girl shot in the head comes to mind.

We could just as easily blame the male gender, but we know that would be wrong, wouldn't we?

Every time I use this example I wonder if men on here get mad. I'm not trying offend men because I certainly am aware that many men will bravely stand up for what is right.... I'm just using world statistics as an example of how it's not good to stereotype. The statistics of violence across the globe are overwhelmingly male but no one is supporting extermination of the male gender so some people need to quit focusing on Stereotypes because it's not getting us anywhere.

Why didn't they just say a man in Nigeria killed a bunch of school children?

If he says it's because Allah told him to, then he either insane or a liar so leave Islam out of it.

I think it's kind of suspicious that they are ab;e to make this differentiation prior to being able to tell us anything else about what was really eating at this guy and caused him to bomb a school.

reply to post by sonnny1


no, they deliberately encouraged the immigration of extremists and from societies that were so totally different than swedish society, that the result would be to drive the swedish people into diametrically opposed camps. it's an agenda, and the swedish government is complicit.

if i was muslim (i'm not) i would get out of there so fast and encourage as many muslims as i could to get out of there. this thing is gonna come to a head. and it ain't gonna be pretty.

reply to post by undo

don't they realize that it is the extremists who are furthering the agenda of the elite -- not hampering it, but actually making it happen. these guys are gonna bring the ire of the entire planet down on the heads of all muslims and eventually, all religions.

So what you are saying is that the millions of immigrants from the Middle east fled their respective countries due to endless war perpetrated on them by the West and the only thing to do now is absorb them into western culture (for now) until subjugation of the ME (and Africa) is complete.

Thats why the flood of refugees to european and other countries?

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by undo

 

don't they realize that it is the extremists who are furthering the agenda of the elite -- not hampering it, but actually making it happen. these guys are gonna bring the ire of the entire planet down on the heads of all muslims and eventually, all religions.

So what you are saying is that the millions of immigrants from the Middle east fled their respective countries due to endless war perpetrated on them by the West and the only thing to do now is absorb them into western culture (for now) until subjugation of the ME (and Africa) is complete.

Thats why the flood of refugees to european and other countries?

nope, not saying that at all. i'm saying socialist governments, some of them masquerading as democracies are encouraging the immigration of extremist muslims from cultures that are entirely different than the societies they are immigrating into, for the three fold purpose of 1) eventually annihilating billions of muslims and other religious groups in the process, 2) freeing up resources for their own usage and 3) using extremist islam to force socialism (in some cases in the form of sharia) on the globe and then killing off the muslims later, because the elite excel at pigeon holing groups against each other for racial, religious, national, financial or political causes. i mean look at america. here we are 200 years after the end of slavery, 40 years after the creation of civil rights, and instead of it getting less racist, it's getting more racist. that screams agenda and psychological manipulation.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by christafinias

 

and this is the real head scratcher:

don't they realize that it is the extremists who are furthering the agenda of the elite -- not hampering it, but actually making it happen. these guys are gonna bring the ire of the entire planet down on the heads of all muslims and eventually, all religions.

in effect, they are helping the world become atheistic, socialist slaves. this is why socialist regimes are supporting them. it's a means to an end.

edit on 6-7-2013 by undo because: (no reason given)

It's getting to a point where word's escape me for the obvious, stupidity that's going on.
As you say it will get to a point where not just all Muslim's but all religions are lumped together and 'BOOM' it's not going to be pretty!

Coming to a city near you in the U.S.

with the reports that have been showing up in the past month or
two, and with obunghole giving tousands access and the right to
live here, its only a matter of time before we see this crap first hand.
The only diffrence is here in the U.S. we dont back down from evil,
we stand our ground and fight back.
Islam followers that start trouble here in the U.S. are going to be in
for a rude awakening, their are boys down south they keep locked away
just for occasions like this.

I tell ya, i have to wonder what the heck the govt is doing between the radical
Islamist in deerborn and other places pushing their limits and then all the stupidity
caused by the trayvon trial and the racial mess that is causing, its almost like they
want a war here in the u.s.
I feel for the groups that think they are going to rise up, because they will not stand
a chance. To many armed Americans that dont and wont put up with the crap if things
break loose.
I see real troubled times for our future. Many lives lost on all sides.
With the problems with the 2nd amendment and as rapidly as most Americans stocked
up on arms and ammo, it would not be wise for anyone to start a war here in the states.

reply to post by christafinias


agreed. you could say, "but i just worship nature. i don't believe in any gods" and you may still be up for the choppin' block, depending on what your nationality is and your skin color. if the muslim extremists don't get you first for being a pagan, one of the extremists in another religion will. this thing is out of control and the people driving it, in full view of the whole planet, are muslims -- on international television. don't they realize they are being used to make the whole planet unbelievers in anything other than serving the government?

reply to post by undo

nope, not saying that at all. i'm saying socialist governments, some of them masquerading as democracies are encouraging the immigration of extremist muslims

Oh. Well then I am saying it. Bombs encourage people to immigrate. Those that are bombing are producing extremists with every concussion. The bombers are the extremists.

Islam has nothing to do with that.

Promoting Islam-"ism" (or any ism) as the problem is just pushing the idea that Muslims are evil to the forefront. However you cage it.

See thru the veil.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by undo

 

nope, not saying that at all. i'm saying socialist governments, some of them masquerading as democracies are encouraging the immigration of extremist muslims

Oh. Well then I am saying it. Bombs encourage people to immigrate. Those that are bombing are producing extremists with every concussion. The bombers are the extremists.

Islam has nothing to do with that.

Promoting Islam-"ism" (or any ism) as the problem is just pushing the idea that Muslims are evil to the forefront. However you cage it.

See thru the veil.

i am seeing thru the veil. why would supposedly democratic countries encourage the immigration of muslim extremists from parts of africa that have no idea about european culture, and do so at the expense of their own people and even punish their own people for complaining about it? not only that, modify their democratic laws to such a degree that you can be prosecuted for simply saying you disagree with the religion of the newcomers? it isn't because the leaders of those nations are muslims and isn't because they care about people or they wouldn't be using this scenario as a means to an end.