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Fatah calls on Palestinians to overthrow Hamas in wake of Morsi's fall

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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 11:04 PM
Well, this is interesting and seems to show more of the war within the war across the Middle East.

Palestinian Authority leaders on Thursday expressed joy over the downfall of Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi’s regime, with some calling on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip to follow suit and topple the Hamas government.

I certainly wouldn't disagree and there are worlds of difference between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. Still, it's unusual to see it come out so openly for just how far apart they see each other.

Several other Fatah officials expressed hope that Palestinians in the Gaza Strip would wage a revolution against Hamas.

“Now it’s Gaza’s turn to get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood branch,” said one official. “The dark era of political Islam has ended. The era of hypocrisy and lies has ended and Gaza will soon witness its own revolution against Hamas.”

Now this is no small thing at all. Fatah is by no means a small, secondary group. They wrote the book the modern groups follow before mellowing into something capable of running a half way effective Government.

It would also appear the Egyptians are very much against having anything more to do with helping Hamas. That is also very interesting to see happen and answers some initial questions people had on why they were moving armor into the border area with Israel/Gaza.

The Egyptian authorities have also imposed severe restrictions on the movement of Palestinians through the Rafah terminal, they added.

There are unconfirmed reports that Cairo has also issued an order banning Hamas leaders and members from entering Egypt.

(It's a long story with a lot more in both context and detail)

It was apparently to contain them, not help or support them. The Middle East is like a giant geo-political onion. One layer after another after yet another and then, intertwined in so many ways.


This isn't the Breaking Alt. News forum to require additional links, but I found this one anyway to give more information and background on reasons for a deep split between the Palestinian Authority and Mainstream Palestinians vs. Hamas.

Palestinians Inspired, Confused And Divided By Syria

A lot to keep track of and consider, I'd say.

posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 11:55 PM
Dear Wrabbit2000,

It's been a while since I've said this, but your work here is incredibly valuable. I don't think I've ever admired a Wrabbit before, especially not one who is a member of the Wrabbit cartel, but you're the bee's knees.

So that I'm not completely off topic, what do you think would be the result if we switched from a "war on terror" to a war on the Muslim Brotherhood and it's affiliates? At least we'd have a recognizable enemy which, apparently, many in the Muslim world would like to be rid of.

I understand that the Middle-East is more about tribal and group affiliations than nations. Would this approach be more realistic?

With respect,

posted on Jul, 5 2013 @ 12:32 AM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

If the people want that, then so be it.

As long as its not marred in violence.

posted on Jul, 5 2013 @ 12:45 AM
reply to post by sonnny1

Unfortunately if it were to happen it would be marred in violence
history teaches us that.

If the PA did ultimately gain control however there may just be a glimmer of hope for peace.
Imagine that peace in Israel

Now THAT would be amazing.


posted on Jul, 5 2013 @ 09:05 AM
The Palestinians in Gaza don't have a choice but to stand up against Hamas if they want change.

Abbas has been trying to get new elections in Gaza for at least seven years now, which Hamas has refused out of fear of being ousted.

The bad thing about Hamas is that any conflict against them (even by their own Palestinians), will only result in more rockets being fired into Israel in an effort to start a regional war to distract the people from such a thing.

Hamas would rather have Israel fire back and kill some of these Palestinians if they want to start an internal war against them. That's why they use populated areas to hide behind. They think it will keep the Gaza Palestinians in check.

edit on 5-7-2013 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 5 2013 @ 09:48 AM
reply to post by charles1952

You raise an interesting point about focus and becoming narrow in what the US is trying to accomplish. I honestly believe we're years too late to matter, unfortunately. I think the US Policy has been the proverbial bull in a china shop long enough now for people across that region as well as here at home to distrust what is being said, even if it makes sense this time.

I think when we're dealing with people who lie even when the truth would serve them better (The current and recent State Department, not to mention Defense), they simply won't sell credibility to anyone for a very long time. Obama may as well give up that entirely. After the damage done? I doubt his replacement will get anything done for the time it'll take to fade....let alone anyone now.

posted on Jul, 5 2013 @ 12:39 PM
In the meanwhile, Erdogan had met with top Hamas officials on June 18th and was supposed to visit Gaza today.

Instead, it looks like Erdogan decided to "cut his vacation short"(?) to meet with his key officials to condemn the incident in Egypt.

In the last week, Erdogan tried to submit legislation trying to curb the power of his military as well.

This is going to get interesting.

posted on Jul, 5 2013 @ 03:32 PM
"This is the end of political Islam." I have seen a lot of people saying such. It is wishful thinking. I think this is the beginning. The Egyptian military made a mistake by arresting Morsi and 300 of the leading Muslim Brotherhood members. This will only radicalize people and make them join even more hard line Islamist organizations. This is the country that gave birth to Egyptian Islamic Jihad, also known as Al Qaida. It will be worse than Iraq and worse than Syria.

posted on Jul, 6 2013 @ 02:58 PM
I do really hope this is a sign of things to come in the Middle East. A liberal secular Middle East would be the best possible outcome for the region and the world. Violent Islam should be an oxymoron and I hope that people are starting to see that.

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