Are the recent anti Islam Attacks in the UK false flags

Over the last month here in the UK we have had an increase in anti muslim attacks especially on Mosques, some of which have been covered here on ATS

(ATS Thread) Al-Rahma Islamic Centre destroyed in 'racist attack' (London)

(ATS Thread) Moderate British Mosque the target of Bombing Attempt.

The attemted bombing is one in particular that I find most strange and puzzling



Today it is being reported that a Mosque in Redditch has been vandalised with grafitti, but again I find some of what is being reported strange and inconsistasnt with the feelings of some groups
Link To Redditch Standard (Local News)

Below are some photos and my thoughts on them



Here we see the Mosque with its high security fence, I used to install this type of fence along railway tracks it is very effective and believe me is a complete B@$t@rd to climb over even with a ladder, but then carring a ladder around in the early hours in the morning is a little stupid and begging for attention



This appears to be a close up of the same shot, notice the infamouse EDL tag and right next to it a swastika
the EDL have desperatly trying to gain popularity and saying that they are not racist and only against radical Islam, can you imagine the field day the press would have if known EDL members where caught up a ladder, in the early hours spraying a swastika on a Mosque

The EDL in their mission statement welcome all races and with their links to zionism are far from nazis, although this is the UAF's retoric

then we have this little gem


Notice the window on the left with the initials NF & KKK i think this has been sprayed on the inside of the windows, as far as I know the KKK dont operate in the UK but the NF (National Front) do and in some parts of the Country have quite a large and loyal following, the main difference between the NF and EDL is that the NF are racist and are very open and honest about it many of their followers are national socialist and mein kampf is considered essential reading their whole ideology is based on the 14 words a shortend version of the 88 words writen by Adolf Hitler, and they hate the EDL with a passion due to their love of multiculturism and links to Zionism

I believe the perpetrators of these recent half hearted attacks are either the muslims themselves or the state funded UAF from what I know of these right wing groups I would suggest a couple of pigs heads would be much more effective and a lot easier with less risk of getting caught to deliver
what do you guys think
please lets have a discussion not a silly name calling match
thanks for reading

reply to post by dam00


Could of at least mixed up the paint colors a bit............

the ladder bit reminded me of a bit in animal farm s & f for the laugh

I dont think the EDL are nazi's , probably just some kids.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
I dont think the EDL are nazi's , probably just some kids.

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Definatley just kids but with what agenda, you dont just get up in the middle of the night and think I got an idea lets go and vandalise the mosque if your just a normal kid, just kids would set fire to bins or spray paint a random wall you dont have to scale an eight foot fence to get to

I think it's hard to say at present, as there are surely enough on both sides of the fence (no pun intended) that are daft, prejudiced or manipulative enough to do this.

In the "Moderate British Mosque the target of Bombing Attempt" thread though i demonstrated that the order of events was not quite as suspicious as it first seemed from your analysis - you may have missed my post at the end.

The KKK has been used as a touchstone for eejits here in the uk though, in my home-town @20 yrs ago.

Burning cross and racist literature raise Klan spectre

There may be other examples, but idk.

I doubt that the KKK are active here, but it does not stop them being an inspiration though, or their name being used by those with no connections.

Those fences are routinely scaled too, they are an obstacle sure, but not an insurmountable one.

typical numpties who do not know that the swastica is a much older symbol if you want to piss a muslim off why not reverse it and add dots turning it hindu

The use of the swastika just shows their maturity and how closed minded these idiots are.

Probably drunken, confused kids misdirecting their hate because their brainwashed and lap it up like its the 'in' thing to do.

its not impossible to paint far away objects all you need is rc helicopter with camera and paint spray and mechanical start-up. I guess...

Originally posted by dollukka
its not impossible to paint far away objects all you need is rc helicopter with camera and paint spray and mechanical start-up. I guess...

That would be a pretty impressive RC Helicopter, and a very compitent pilot, with its extra channel to control the spray, possibly upgraded rotars to cope with the extra weight and how would you cope with overspray created by the down draft from the rotar blades, Im sticking with the ladder theory

Originally posted by dam00

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
I dont think the EDL are nazi's , probably just some kids.

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Definatley just kids but with what agenda, you dont just get up in the middle of the night and think I got an idea lets go and vandalise the mosque if your just a normal kid, just kids would set fire to bins or spray paint a random wall you dont have to scale an eight foot fence to get to

From what i've seen they aren't generally "kids". The EDL seems to comprise mainly of grown men in their 30's and 40's. Mainly unemployed/unemployable/under-educated blue-collar racists.

Originally posted by citizenx1

Originally posted by dam00

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
I dont think the EDL are nazi's , probably just some kids.

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Definatley just kids but with what agenda, you dont just get up in the middle of the night and think I got an idea lets go and vandalise the mosque if your just a normal kid, just kids would set fire to bins or spray paint a random wall you dont have to scale an eight foot fence to get to

From what i've seen they aren't generally "kids". The EDL seems to comprise mainly of grown men in their 30's and 40's. Mainly unemployed/unemployable/under-educated blue-collar racists.

So are you some kind of stalker ?

reply to post by citizenx1


Just because EDL was painted on the wall doesnt automatically it was a EDL member. Could easily just be some kids trying to be offensive. Whoever did it are probably are not Nazi's or KKK members either.

I wouldnt read to much into it for now, its regrettable vandalism.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
reply to post by citizenx1

 

Just because EDL was painted on the wall doesnt automatically it was a EDL member. Could easily just be some kids trying to be offensive. Whoever did it are probably are not Nazi's or KKK members either.

I wouldnt read to much into it for now, its regrettable vandalism.

edit on 26-6-2013 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

I agree with pretty much all you have said, but the regrettable vandalism is having a bit of a trend at the moment and I cant help but see an underlying agenda
with repect
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reply to post by dam00

I wouldn't say that they were a false flag, more the start of a major backlash against the Muslim population, things may be about to get very ugly indeed. Not surprising when our politicians are wont to ignore the(majority) non Muslim population's concerns.

reply to post by nake13


Yes I do feel we are about to embark on very ugly times, I cant see the current sentiment getting any better, and I think our government is getting just what they want out of us
thank you for your comment,

star for you

I don't know about the Mosques but there was an arson attack on a Muslim boarding school last month near where I live. (Kent UK)
How we found out about it, was when we were coming back from a wedding on a Saturday night, and we saw a long traffic jam at 11pm, which was highly unusual in that area.

Then we saw a long line of 20 (+ 5 supervisors) UK police stopping all the cars- both sides of the road. My hubby is a rather impatient guy and thought about doing a 180 but I said lets go through it and see what's it all about.
( I got the kids to say 'These are not the drones you are looking for.' -not kidding.)
A policeman then asks us if we had driven through that area the week before that Saturday-we answered no. Apparently there had been an arson attack on Muslim school kids, all of them made it out but it was touch and go.

I do not condon this at all, I am just reporting what I saw.
No false flag here. Overtime budget must have gone through the roof and UK police don't like paying their cops overtime.

All religion should be outlawed in the UK, It serves no useful purpose other than to cause conflict.It would also save people that care about the country a lot of time from not having to paint pictures on extremist buildings.

While a lot of Anti-muslim activity makes it to the news, the media ignores what the muslims are up to. Look what happened a couple of weeks ago, a disabled christian man in a wheelchair got his throat cut.
www.mrconservative.com...
This happened two weeks after the drummer Lee Rigby was killed but didn't get any attention whatsoever. I guess a couple of paintings on a mosque is more important.

I don't think these are false flag attacks people are being killed for real by radical islam the danger is real and the media doesn't want the blame for starting a riot. islam is a cancer, there are unhealthy cells in there but it's impossible for a non-muslim to weed them without starting a war with the entire religion, the fact is that most muslims are not willing to help us find and fight the radicals.


ETA: I don't think real EDL member's did the paintings either. Just aimless vandals yeah as above people said probably kids (who don't like islam.)

Originally posted by dollukka
its not impossible to paint far away objects all you need is rc helicopter with camera and paint spray and mechanical start-up. I guess...

I fly RC helicopters and I can assure you that would be EXTREMELY difficult. The moment the spray started it would push the craft in the opposite direction very quickly! It would be like switching on a jet engine.