I Am Simon Alexandra, The Water Bearer

What I'm seeing here, despite some good writings, and points, is just one more way, of trying to own, the Christian message, and trying to bring in fundamentalism again, when its not fundamental, its about inner processes.

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Originally posted by Unity_99
The waters of Baptism are meditation. Be like WATER - Empty your mind

Deprogram everything and connect to Source!

Meditation can and will open the door for demonic spirits and harassment into a persons life.

Things such as meditation are your problem, they are NOT your solution...

Several posters on ATS have confirmed this in many other threads as well.

Below are 3 examples:

I was mad as hell when I ran my spooks off and they don't come around much anymore. Nowadays it is just your average poltergeist crap ever once in awhile. Also I would add that meditation is what kicked off the worst experiences for me. Be careful with that stuff. Link.

Dabbling in the occult is apt to accomplish this, but sometimes it only takes something as simple as meditating. Meditation opens a person up, or can at least, to such things. It can act as a beacon to certain entities. I don't know how often it happens, but I know it can happen, for whatever reason. Link.

My mother still suffers from attacks at that house, In an attempt to get rid of the activity at the house, my mother has burned sage, hung up dream catchers, and surrounds herself with anything paranormal. She has tried demanding for this thing to leave and has gone through meditations and imagining light surrounding the house. Throughout all of this, the shadow person has at times stepped up the attacks, or has remained unchanged. Link.

New Age deep meditation and hypnotism are particularly dangerous. They are not recognized as being channels to demons, but they provide a direct pathway for demonic influence upon the mind. Communication with demons

Meditation is the technique whereby a person empties his mind of all conscious thought, while chanting a series of repetitive words or phrases as many times as possible. Once a person does this repeatedly, he/she will begin to experience the phenomenon whereby the mind begins to lose its normal contact with the body. This phenomena is called an "Out-of-Body" experience, and is very common in occultic circles.

Once the mind loses its normal connection with the body the person then is ready to meet his/her "Guiding Spirit". Christian author, Johanna Michaelson, captures the Satanic essence of meditation and Guiding Spirits in her book, "The Beautiful Side Of Evil". Guiding Spirits identify themselves by name, including Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, or one of the Apostles.

The person who is involved is truly deceived into thinking they have just discovered THE one, true way to actually come into contact with God. In reality, they have just come into contact with a Satanic demon, who has temporarily transformed himself into a being appearing very kind, gentle, and wise. The stage is set for these demonic beings to manipulate and mislead their human victims. These people have become demonically possessed. WALK-INS

The human spirit has tremendous power. Because man is in bondage to sin, for him to access now his human spirit with his soul means using the power of the human spirit for greater evil and sin. That is why all religions outside of the Bible and Jesus Christ tell you to meditate by blanking your mind. Why? Satan is behind this teaching because he wants access to our human spirit and the tremendous power it holds to use for His evil purposes.

Since for this reason God does not want us to access our human spirit, the only way a religious person outside of Christ is able to access his human spirit is though demonic power, a demonic spirit bridging the human soul to the human spirit, but under the demonic spirit’s control. For this reason, God in His Word forbids us to access our human spirit.

The Human Spirit and Meditation

Meditation is an antichristian form of self-deliverance. During meditation, a person descends to deeper levels of his consciousness where he discovers the psychic powers and spiritual gifts to heal himself and solve his problems. He meets “the god within” who is wrongly regarded as the God of the Bible. It is this “god” who is dark and mysterious, and may leave evil impressions in the subconscious mind of the person. Eastern Meditation Sneaks into the Church

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You've probably never even tried to meditate have you? You just believe any old thing someone tells you don't you? You are close-minded, meditation opens the mind. I guess all those Buddhist monks are devil worshipers who have all kinds of evil spirits in them? Lol!!!

Originally posted by BornOfSin
I am he, that your religion painted as 'Jesus Christ'.

Houston we have a problem...

Thread title says: "I AM SIMON ALEXANDRA"

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Yup... Sorry brother but thats pure trash

Jesus taught meditation...

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Yep, as PURE as trash gets.

Meditation is a GREAT way to clear the mind and relax. This guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about. I think he's just afraid of things he doesn't understand.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I guess all those Buddhist monks are devil worshipers who have all kinds of evil spirits in them? Lol!!!

Laugh it up funny boy...

"The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA’s payroll..." www.infowars.com...

One of the most powerful weapons used by the Satanists in their plot to create a totalitarian world government is the use of certain religious sects such as Moonies, the Dalai Lama’s network, Falun Gong and others. The trail ultimately leads to the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate and the Satanic part of the Vatican centered around the Vatican bank. The inclusion of the Dalai Lama in the network of Satanists may come as a surprise to many but the evidence speaks for itself.

The Satanist link to intelligence operations disguised as religious sects

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Lol!!! Are you saying all those Buddhist monks who meditate every day and never hurt anyone and preach love are actually devil worshipers who want to bring the whole world down and are possessed by evil spirits?

Lol!!! Give me a break.

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By writing what you wrote to me, you merely demonstrate your state of wisdom. I suggest meditating and learning, asking God/Source and your own soul to guide you to the right messages or nudges, after seeking to deprogram.

There are people who say they are awake, yet write things like this, and demonstrate that don't even know what awake is.

As I go further in trying to overcome this world and my flaws, the veil lifts little by little, and have recognized who people are, at times, and myself, home, who is watching over. Its important to realize that there are many traps here, along with our own flaws, so we need to have faith, love, even humor at times to overcome our own ego, pride, reactions, apathy and really polish up the clarity in us, by becoming light as a feather, and overcoming flaws. But there are countless other traps, people who try to steer you into yet another dogma, anothter set of lies, and distortions, or flatter your ego too.

Keep humble and pour out all things that are like failings to you at night to your soul, to Source/God and Goodness. Don't be afraid, for Love is with us.

Throughout our lives we have 2 witnesses: Love and Wisdom. That means what it means by the way. Common sense can be seen as wisdom, and not harming. Love means going the extra mile, not just being harmless, but helping.

Love and Wisdom will be the weights on the scales on the life review, but the short cut this is already in us, via our frequency.

Originally posted by Akragon
Jesus taught meditation...

WHICH Jesus?

The OP perhaps?

There are alot of good articles on this site, but I'll start with this one as it fits:

www.spiritofthescripture.com...
The Crossing of the Red Sea and Baptism: It’s NOT about water!

I'll add a little, the red sea is also about war. So this literally speaks to the man of peace, and becoming the man of peace to meditate.

Christ's message is actually the Tao. He speaks of the precious pearl. That is in taoism. And single eye. Which relates to Genesis 32 30, and the city where Jacob met God/Goodness, the penial.

There is only one true way to become the new creature when the mind is transformed and renewed, and it is the same holy act that has been practiced by ancient cultures from around the world. That act is meditation.

Baptism is meditation. It’s that simple. And it’s for this reason that Paul is able to link the Red Sea crossing with baptism. Let’s review the details.

In recalling the story of the Exodus we see the Israelites camped by the sea when the Egyptians suddenly arrive on the horizon. God had hardened pharaoh’s heart once again and he was coming to destroy them. When the Israelites looked up and saw the Egyptians coming, they became afraid and started complaining. Moses’ then gives the Israelites a command. The scripture states:

“And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord…The Lord shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace” (Exodus 14:13-14).

Keep in mind that Moses is commanding the Israelites to stand still even as they are supposed to be walking across the Red Sea floor!

This aspect of standing still and holding our peace is the very act of meditation itself. This is the way to salvation!

The Psalmist reiterates this truth much later when he states:

“Be still and know that I am God…” (Psalm 46:10).

Can it be any plainer? The Bible is not a literal book. It’s a profound spiritual tool that teaches us how to transform individual consciousness.

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by Akragon
Jesus taught meditation...

WHICH Jesus?

The OP perhaps?

The one you claim to know...

If you haven't yet realised Jesus taught meditation... You might want to review the gospels a few more times

Geez man..... Even paul meditated...

Get with it bud

www.healingtaoinstitute.com...

Fusion of the Five Elements I
In this practice of Taoist Internal Alchemy, you will learn to neutralize the negative emotions of worry, sadness, arrogance, anger and fear back into pure energy by anchoring the source of the emotions in the bodily organs, and establishing a balance through the Five Elements control cycle. The purified energy is crystallized into a radiant energy pearl within the inner cauldron. This pearl is then circulated through the Microcosmic Orbit, attracting to it the external Chi of the Three Forces: Heaven, Earth, and Cosmic Force. The formation and circulation of the pearl plays a pivotal role in the nourishment of the soul or energy body. Pre-requisite: Microcosmic Orbit Meditation

When the 2 become one, the inner and outer. We always see dualism as dark/light.

The positive understanding is mind/spirit and body/material. And raising the frequency of the material to the Progressed Spirit.

Some speak of the kundalini. But Chi as relates to the Solar Plexus:

healing.about.com...

This is the Will, and the Will choosing positive balancing inner and outer, and brings in Healing Energies from Soul and also, in allignement the Inner and Outer, the mind and subconscious. This is where good actions and self disclipine also comes in, the ability to live simply, see through the world and practice, frugally, without wavering in meditation, in effort, ie helping others, and developing astral travel or lucid dreaming.

I wouldn't be bringing any kundalini from your base and sexual energy up to affect your third eye, rather, CHI.

And this is what is hidden in the BIBLE.

Originally posted by Akragon
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Yup... Sorry brother but thats pure trash

Jesus taught meditation...

Show me where Jesus taught meditation in the Bible and don't give me some text which combines Christianity with ancient voodoo and esoterics.

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Luke 21:14
Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer....

He wouldn't even bring it up if he didn't teach it...

Plus you'll find plenty of allusions to it as well... You might recall a certian tree he prefered to sit under as well...

And prayer is a form of meditation

reply to post by Deetermined


Read the bible with understanding. When you hit the mysteries that allude to other things, seek what is being said.

A passage given by Paul relating to the Red Sea passing already shows it is a clue to stand still and pay attention.

Genesis 32 30 should hit most people over the head with an awareness stick but they tend to ignore things.

Its all coded.

Oh and fig trees......now that part is amusing. He did say what to do with the fig tree that didn't flower forth with the good fruit.

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Deetermined

 

Luke 21:14
Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer....

He wouldn't even bring it up if he didn't teach it...

Plus you'll find plenty of allusions to it as well... You might recall a certian tree he prefered to sit under as well...

And prayer is a form of meditation

What part of "NOT to meditate" did you not understand? He told them not to think about their answers because he would provide the words for them. Another verse taken out of context.

Prayer is not meditation. Prayer is well formed thought in the way of conversation to God.

Meditation is emptying your mind. Prayer is not.

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Let's find that "place" in another verse shall we?

Judges 8:7-9

7 And Gideon said, Therefore when the Lord hath delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into mine hand, then I will tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness and with briers.

8 And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.

9 And he spake also unto the men of Penuel, saying, When I come again in peace, I will break down this tower.

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As usual... You believe whatever you want...

The word wouldn't have been used if he didn't teach it...

What part about that don't you get?

Silly.

reply to post by Akragon


Any time the word meditate is used in the Bible it's used to mean "contemplate", meaning to think, it is never used to empty the mind of any and all thought so that something else can enter your thoughts.