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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by WashMoreFeet
I didn't assume anything about you, that's why I asked questions.
If you think Muhammad was a tool of Satan then you have set a double standard. He spoke out against Satan just like Paul.
It wasn't like they were giving money to the Jews to go and preach a different Messiah.
So, I don't understand what you think happened there.
I'm not sure why you think everyone should have just walked away from Jerusalem.
Suppose Paul, by going with gifts to Jerusalem, was giving Christians a way out, where they may have otherwise been inclined to go themselves, as the obligatory annual pilgrimage, to the temple.
I've been thinking that somehow or other Paul failed to get the memo that Jesus predicted the destruction of Jerusalem, which seems to be a rather serious failure.
Paul seems to have been collecting money from Gentiles and taking it to Jerusalem, as if Jerusalem was somehow of any significance after Jesus said, "I leave your house desolate".
where they may have otherwise been inclined to go themselves as the obligatory annual pilgrimage to the temple.
This way, the poor got the benefit rather than the already too rich temple leaders and high priests.
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by Deetermined
which in turn is also similar to how you keep debating your perspective,
Isn't it a Christian saying, Judge not unless you wish to be judged.
If I had heard Jesus tell the Samaritan woman "Neither this mountain nor that city", never never never would I have ever set my face to go to that city again ever!
The only division that Jesus caused is the division that you cause by believing in the false god. Jesus knew his words would be twisted, which is why he warned about wolves in sheeps clothing. All he did here was predict what the false church set up in his name would do.
John 4: WEB
19 The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.”
21 Jesus said to her, "“Woman, believe me, the hour comes, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, will you worship the Father. 22 You worship that which you don’t know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”"