This might be the reason why TPTB fears NSA leak

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by thruthseek3r

 

Ok, so aliens are real, and the government has been secretly working with them for decades, so they leave information like that accessible to PRIVATE CONTRACTORS?

I don't effing think so friend.

Besides, if they did, don't you think the fact that aliens exist, and are here clandestinely working with the government, would have been the story to leak? NSA capturing your phone sex sessions is a little less sensational than confirmation of intelligent alien life.

Then again, I'm finding myself hard pressed to even admit there's intelligent like on this planet, alien or not.

William Cooper? Don't get me wrong, I love how he exposed Alex Jone's nonsense, but only to help build his viewer base of people listening to his nonsense.

here's another scenario.

You are Obama, the worst president in history. Your country is imploding, your government is falling apart, you are fighting so many wars the average person can't even list them all, the global financial system is in ruins, and the majority of Americans are demanding you be impeached or otherwise removed from office.

Wouldn't that be a great distraction? Yeah, yeah, i'm a secret commie social muslim, but hey, look over there, aliens!

That could be seen as a distraction, every post could be seen as such, but hey it is a theory of my own, you are your own judge. With that being said, I felt there was much more than was being on the spotlight concerning the NSA, this leak might lead to something much deeper and one of my theories was the link with MJ-12, I think that is about it.



Thruthseek3r

As much as I would love for this to be true, it isn't. Or well, maybe I should say the chances are astronomically slim.

That info, if true, would be better guarded. As in, eyes only, written either by hand or on a type writer and locked away in a safe somewhere far away from prying eyes.

And even if it weren't, the NSA knows what he took and if he had taken ET proof he would already be dead...period.

Originally posted by Nevertheless
It doesn't work in that direction.
Please prove that there isn't a pink elephant ghost living under your left thumbnail.

Except for the accounts and clues suggesting non-human technology are many, pink elephant, where - on Google images only? So don't compare proving something that no one ever has even clues about and the situation, history, accounts, circumstances do not suggest to exist, and something that has a long history of clues that suggest such possibility. In other words, nothing is certain until proven, their non-existence too, too much stuff allows the possibility.

Originally posted by ThinkingCap
reply to post by Raxoxane

 

His overall message is a good one. But it's also a given. He made quite a lot of claims, and as his audience grew so did his ego.

One failed claim was that JFK was assassinated by the driver.

One claim that I saw was that JFK was killed by accident by a secret service agent returning fire back in Oswald's direction.

reply to post by ImpactoR


Well said.
Skeptics don't get to simply hold believers' feet to the fire demanding empirical evidence in the face of a MOUNTAIN of indirect evidence suggesting something is up.

I mean, if the question is simply a phenomena of unidentified craft, well hell, I CAN prove that. Loads and loads of cases establish this.

Is the Government interested? Of course! This can be established as well!

Hell, all one simply needs do is look at the "official" stance taken by the Air Force in regards to the subject, in which they close Blue Book saying that "they" pose no known National Security Threat."

It is cut and dry that the phenomenon is real. The rest is open to intepretation.

To simply say it is not real MOST DEFINITELY requires evidence.
Namely an explanation for every known unknown. I reckon that would work.

reply to post by thruthseek3r


I think you might have something, it seems that when ever something "big is gonna break" in a couple of days or so someone seems to die. It might be a leap of imagination to put every death as mixed up with UFO's but i'm sure although nothing can be proved we are left with a smell that something isn't right. Also there is the factor of.. "Don't try to sell me that one", because on the surface its just too way out. But with a little look under the surface your left with the feeling that there might be something in it. My for instance! in this context is ,When Marilyn Monroe passed away she was going to hold a press conference that in her words " would shock the world" Since her dalliance with the kennedy brothers was already known to the "In crowd" whatever could it have been. So would it have been this? Gained under the freedom of information act, and accidently verified as original by the CIA.? Remember it wasn't just Monroe who died, later it was Killagen, and the woman that killagen passed her notes onto. www.blackmesapress.com...

reply to post by anonentity


No offense or anything, as that was an interesting read, and is a connection often made in the whole JFK ordeal (one of those conspiracies I have no intention of touching with a 10' pole...it is obvious he was murdered be the very government he supposedly ran), but it has a glaring problem to me.

Why would Marylin Monroe state to anyone that she had secrets to tell of Kennedy's involvement with the"inspection of objects from outer space", in those words?

She was a model and an actress.

This entire line of reasoning seems entirely made up.

More likely she would say, "he told me about the aliens!!!!!"
And even then, I don't buy it.

We know other, less controversial Presidents, have sought the info and were denied

reply to post by gortex

Thank you gortex,ThinkingCap+Kgnow for your perspectives on William Cooper-i do not get as much time as I would like to read up on all I'm interested in,having to share my pc with 2 of my children.Much appreciated,have a good weekend,all.

reply to post by JayinAR
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In pre womans lib times all the secrets were kept by men. The secrets seemed to get divulged to females via pillow talk, the reasoning being she was only a little woman and who would take her seriously anyway. Its a tried and true method for getting military secrets ad nauseum. JFK. was notorious for this pillow talk, Monroes place when sold after her death, was found to have thousands of dollars of surveillance equipment locked in the walls, that was found during the renovations.
We have a working girl who suddenly started to socialise with people who actually knew stuff that wasn't familiar to the general population. She knew about the CIA Mafia connection to get Castro, she might have even been asked to help in the assassination. Who knows? She had a weekend with Giancana at " Ole Blue eyes" Casino, where they tried to persuade her to back off. But the one thing we do know was she was a loose cannon with stuff to tell, that would embarrass the PTB. Also on prescription barbiturates, like so many others at that time, which at that time made the Enema a great accidental death tool if required.
Why would she hold a press conference saying that the President told her about the stuff from outer space? Well one reason I can think of is to get the President to return her calls, as she had the idea that she was in the running to be first lady? ( Jackie wasn't a saint after she learnt of Jacks womanising) it would stuff up the space program, if it was known others were zooming about the Universe? being on the inside might have made her think that she wasn't expendible, The fact that RFK was seen by neighbours at her residence before her demise, plus Lawford RFK. and the Greerson were stopped for speeding by a traffic Cop, heading back to Lawfords place to get RFK. on a helicopter to get the attorney general out of town. The PTB it would seem took her very seriously. I don't for a moment think the Kennedys had anything to do with her death, I think they were there pleading with her to cancel the press conference, because even they wouldn't be able to save her if it went ahead. Then it appeared a string of deaths started to consume those in the know, that continued till long after the Kennedys left for "Sky Hotel"

Originally posted by Kgnow
reply to post by thruthseek3r

 

I did an informative exposé on William Cooper in this thread:

Founding Fathers of the Conspiracy and Truth Movement

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Just like every human, he had his flaws. Just like every human, he made mistakes. The few times he realized he made a mistake, he quickly went on record to correct himself and apologize.

He was, and still is, the most influential man of the modern Truth Movement. Alex Jones built his own career by using Cooper's work, which he denies, and is why Jones gets little respect from me in this regard.

edit on 19-6-2013 by Kgnow because: (no reason given)

Thank you for the links, I will check the thread and the links you just put to know more about the man. This could be helpful in making sense with his information on the NSA, MJ-12 and all.




Thruthseek3r