600 Physicians, Dentists, Scientists and Environmentalists Call for an End to Fluoridation‏

reply to post by reeferman

and i take it you didn't bother to watch the video.

You're right. But I've heard it before.

I take it you don't care that there is nothing which supports the claims about Nazis and fluoride.

or even perceive there is a problem.

So you buy into that nazi nonsense? Does Bryson?

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by superman2012

 

Sure! Fluoride damage, one of many random articles....

You do realize, I'm sure, that high doses of ANYTHING can damage you. Eat a pound of salt. Drink 20 gallons of water at a sitting...etc.

That is why there are MAC's for water treatment.

Originally posted by tracehd1
We need to end bleach/chlorine in our water to. Im sure we have come along way to figure out how to get germs out of water without chorline!

They found out men coming back from Nam when they cut them open they had the insides of older men. It aged them profoundly.

Get rid of both would be wonderful... But then maybe the billon dollar water bottle Ind. would no longer make them profits... That is the reason they wont do it. (?)

Sure. We could use UV light to destroy all bacteria. Maybe even just use Ozone to do it. Or heat it. What are you going to use to do it while it is in the street mains under the streets on the way to your house? There are MAC's that sodium hypochlorite has to follow as well. Most permits require a certain residual level once it is out in the pipes.

As of now, there is no better way to ensure that the water stays bacteria free once it hits your house. People have the choice to filter it out before they drink it.

I heard the Pharmacutical that makes Viagra gives cities $1 million grants to BUY fluoride to put into the water. It forces men to buy Viagra when their "tools" stop working.

Big Pharma AIN'T letting anyone stop poisoning the water supplies. It is THEIR Gold Mine....they're generating massive money and will buy off any politician to keep their program running.

As the fluoride shuts down parts of your brain, men are residing to trying to think really hard about exotic sexual things in order to try and re-wire their brain to let their "tool" work....which is why the Vatican started getting the "little boy" problem....all from fluoridated water.

The Vatican KNOWS why their clergy resorted to what they did....and its how they've avoided getting prosecuted....their scientists threatened to disclose the poisoning program that's ongoing.

How on earth did humans get this far?
For hundreds of thousands of years we managed just fine WITHOUT putting a TOXIC waste chemical into our water supply! So why should we need it now?

All you fluoride worshipers?

What about my right to CHOOSE?

Originally posted by Pervius
I heard the Pharmacutical that makes Viagra gives cities $1 million grants to BUY fluoride to put into the water. It forces men to buy Viagra when their "tools" stop working.

Big Pharma AIN'T letting anyone stop poisoning the water supplies. It is THEIR Gold Mine....they're generating massive money and will buy off any politician to keep their program running.

As the fluoride shuts down parts of your brain, men are residing to trying to think really hard about exotic sexual things in order to try and re-wire their brain to let their "tool" work....which is why the Vatican started getting the "little boy" problem....all from fluoridated water.

The Vatican KNOWS why their clergy resorted to what they did....and its how they've avoided getting prosecuted....their scientists threatened to disclose the poisoning program that's ongoing.

So all people who drink fluoridated water don't have a working pee pee, but if they did, they would use it on little boys?
Boy am I glad I grew up in a city that voted to not fluoridate its water!

Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
reply to post by phishyblankwaters

 

Flouride in toothpaste is at significantly higher levels than in the water supply. What's in the water supply is added to replace what is removed during the decontamination phase of water treatment. They even put it back in lower quantities that what would have been in the untreated water naturally. Flouride isn't just for teeth, it also helps bone density and strength. Your body needs flouride during the process which converts calcium to form your body can actually absorb and use. Without flouride any calcium you ingested would be passed through waste instead of utilized by your body. One of the side effects in places that don't flouridate the water after removing it is osteoporosis on top of increased tooth decay. The levels found in the water supply aren't toxic to the majority of healthy people, it's merely a supplemented necessary nutrient that your body requires to function properly.

That's complete BS. Fluoride, unlike other elements, has no natural use in the body, aka there is no such thing as a fluoride deficiency. It does make your bones "stronger" but by the time you've ingesting fluoride over years and you're in your older years, it makes the bones brittle. Brittle but strong, is not strong. Falls in the elderly are a large cause of death. As well as has been mentioned the increase in bone cancer in young men.

Fluoride has nothing to do with calcium, your body can do whatever it wants to with calcium without fluoride. Please find a source, because that just isn't the case.

reply to post by VoidHawk

For hundreds of thousands of years we managed just fine WITHOUT putting a TOXIC waste chemical into our water supply! So why should we need it now?

For hundreds of thousands of years we have been drinking water with fluoride in it. Often times at harmful levels. For hundreds of thousands of years peoples' teeth rotted away in areas which didn't have natural fluoride.

For hundreds of thousands of years we were drinking water full of harmful organisms and managed "just fine". But adding chlorine, something very toxic at high concentrations, has helped solve that problem.

A lot of people are choosing. Some to add fluoride, many not to.

Originally posted by VoidHawk
How on earth did humans get this far?
For hundreds of thousands of years we managed just fine WITHOUT putting a TOXIC waste chemical into our water supply! So why should we need it now?

All you fluoride worshipers?

What about my right to CHOOSE?

We also got along this far without, hospitals, pasteurization, penicillin, chemotherapy, central air conditioning, etc. What is your point? You don't want people to develop ways to increase lifespans?

This has never been about your right to choose. We have all said that if this was about a persons right to choose, that that is a different subject and I believe they should...and they do. Everytime you go and vote you are.


More choices for you.

Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by EViLKoNCEPTz

 

It's no use, people are afraid of things that they heard about instead of doing the smallest bit of research.

Link

Is Fluoride great to add to water? I believe so in small doses in areas of high dental neglect. Are there long term effects? I don't know, but, neither does anyone. It could be like anything else though, it affects some people more than others.

Fluoride won't do anything in areas of high dental neglect. And yes, you might not know, but then what makes you think you can say no one else does either? Can't say you'd be an authority in any case for or against when you just don't know to begin with.

As far as heating the water...erm, you know how much that would cost?

Originally posted by Turq1

Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by EViLKoNCEPTz

 

It's no use, people are afraid of things that they heard about instead of doing the smallest bit of research.

Link

Is Fluoride great to add to water? I believe so in small doses in areas of high dental neglect. Are there long term effects? I don't know, but, neither does anyone. It could be like anything else though, it affects some people more than others.

Fluoride won't do anything in areas of high dental neglect. And yes, you might not know, but then what makes you think you can say no one else does either?

Can't say you'd be an authority in any case for or against when you just don't know to begin with.

As far as heating the water...erm, you know how much that would cost?

edit on 6/17/2013 by Turq1 because: (no reason given)

It does help. Don't say it won't do anything when you have zero knowledge on the subject.
Linky poo for someone to lazy to.

Heating the water was for killing any pathogens genius, not to get fluoride out. Yes I realize that would be cost prohibitive, but people are asking for other ways to get the pathogens out of the water...not fluoride. Stick to one argument at a time, seems you can't be productive arguing two things at once.

Originally posted by superman2012

This has never been about your right to choose. We have all said that if this was about a persons right to choose, that that is a different subject and I believe they should...and they do. Everytime you go and vote you are.

So tell please tell us. Who is it that will end this poisoning if we vote for them?

Originally posted by Phage

For hundreds of thousands of years we have been drinking water with fluoride in it. Often times at harmful levels.

Aluminum is not natural in Earths environment. It's ONLY existed since we figured out how to manufacture it just recently in Earth's history.

The Fluoride used in water supplies....st the hazardous WASTE byproduct from Aluminum smelting. It not only contains fluoride,,,,but other nasty hazardous wastes like heavy metals and toxins.

They DONT use Medical Grade Fluoride for water supplies. The use the waste-byproduct from the aluminum smelting factory.

NO HUMANS have been drinking that hazardous waste byproduct "fluoride" from aluminum smelting in their water supplies for thousands of years. It's only existed....since they started smelting aluminum.

What they are using in water supplies is....a HAZARDOUS WASTE BY-PRODUCT.

It's generating them BILLIONS by poisoning the population.

reply to post by Pervius

Link for below.

Fluoridation does not affect the appearance, taste, or smell of drinking water. It is normally accomplished by adding one of three compounds to the water: sodium fluoride, fluorosilicic acid, or sodium fluorosilicate.

Sodium fluoride (NaF) was the first compound used and is the reference standard. It is a white, odorless powder or crystal; the crystalline form is preferred if manual handling is used, as it minimizes dust. It is more expensive than the other compounds, but is easily handled and is usually used by smaller utility companies.

Fluorosilicic acid (H2SiF6) is an inexpensive liquid by-product of phosphate fertilizer manufacture. It comes in varying strengths, typically 23–25%; because it contains so much water, shipping can be expensive. It is also known as hexafluorosilicic, hexafluosilicic, hydrofluosilicic, and silicofluoric acid.

Sodium fluorosilicate (Na2SiF6) is the sodium salt of fluorosilicic acid. It is a powder or very fine crystal that is easier to ship than fluorosilicic acid. It is also known as sodium silicofluoride.

63% of the population received water fluoridated with fluorosilicic acid, 28% with sodium fluorosilicate, and 9% with sodium fluoride.

The Fluoride used in water supplies....st the hazardous WASTE byproduct from Aluminum smelting. It not only contains fluoride,,,,but other nasty hazardous wastes like heavy metals and toxins.

So we have shown that fluorosilicic acid is used the majority of the time.
Waste byproduct of Aluminum smelting?

The majority of the hexafluorosilicic acid is converted to aluminium fluoride and cryolite. These materials are central to the conversion of aluminium ore into aluminium metal.

Nope. Used FOR smelting? Yes.

Disinformation by people on this site that aren't sure but love to spread rumours and perpetuate fear? Yes.

Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by superman2012

This has never been about your right to choose. We have all said that if this was about a persons right to choose, that that is a different subject and I believe they should...and they do. Everytime you go and vote you are.

So tell please tell us. Who is it that will end this poisoning if we vote for them?

If you don't agree with water fluoridation, it will start at your local level. Start a movement in your town to not have fluoride added to your water supply (if it even is, the majority of people have NO IDEA what is being added or the concentrations). If the fluoride is naturally occurring, get an RO water treatment plant. My town did, be prepared for taxes to go up substantially, treatment plants are in the tens of millions of dollars.

OR

You could get filters or other methods for home use to get it out.

The choice is, and always has been, ours.

reply to post by Pervius

Aluminum is not natural in Earths environment. It's ONLY existed since we figured out how to manufacture it just recently in Earth's history.

Interesting statement. All of a sudden it just made up 7% of the Earth's crust.

The Fluoride used in water supplies....st the hazardous WASTE byproduct from Aluminum smelting.

Really. Can you provide me with more information about that?

It not only contains fluoride,,,,but other nasty hazardous wastes like heavy metals and toxins.

And you know this how? Can you provide me with more information about that?

They DONT use Medical Grade Fluoride for water supplies.

What is "medical grade fluoride"?

NO HUMANS have been drinking that hazardous waste byproduct "fluoride" from aluminum smelting in their water supplies for thousands of years.

Not really relevant even if you are correct. When fluoride is dissolved in water you get fluorine ions. The same fluorine ions that are found in naturally fluoridated water.

Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

It really only seems like there's a rise in autism because it's more accurately diagnosed than before. It used to be diagnosed as mental retardation or other mental disability instead of what it actually was.

Yes, I am sure that I have seen myriad journal publications citing the 'downtick' in diagnosis of Downs related, Cerebral Palsy spectrum, Hypocognitive, and Mitochondrial disorders (the Big Four) evidence, commensurate with this neolithia autismatica understanding which dawned on man, 20 years ago.

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And this is probably as far as it goes, us talking about it....

600 professionals? When millions are brainwashed into telling patients its good for them.....

This poison needs to be gone....IMO

That gel at the dentist, the stuff they say don't swallow, and it makes you gag, that you have to marinate your teeth in for up to five minutes, that goes through your gums and numbs your brain. It tastes like poison because it is. The ion locks the chemical into your teeth and creates a hardness. But think on the concept that your teeth are like your bones, but they don't tell you to take fluoride for strong bones.

So what was the push for fluoride in the first place? The tooth thing is a story for children. I imagine there was a defense network idea around mid-20th century where a guy says I know how we can identify our people, by their teeth. The fluoridation could be for tracking in the bones. It sounds superficially crazy but it's a defense network and they pushed a lot of testing on populations, for some grand agenda to fight the opposition. For real, crazy ideas. Then the world domination doesn't happen, and they have all this chemical that they put an occult brand name on and they give it out to lots of souls.

We are talking about the big toothpaste companies right? They would add lead into their products if they could turn a profit without the public not knowing about side effects, understand? There was lead in paint, there was lead in gas, they still got wealthy off of it. Fluoride might be another ingredient the world could be healthier without regular dosing with a brush on the gums.

It numbs your brain, from experience, and that could mean neurological defects. Lower IQs, mental illness maybe. Banning it sounds good to me, on the condition that some science group isn't trying to be sneaky and slip some other chemical into the water instead. Which could happen.

Originally posted by VoidHawk
How on earth did humans get this far?
For hundreds of thousands of years we managed just fine WITHOUT putting a TOXIC waste chemical into our water supply! So why should we need it now?

All you fluoride worshipers?

What about my right to CHOOSE?

100% agreement with the above, I knew I would find you here Void:-)

We had a vote last week in our city of about 75k and 7 councilors decided for all of us that we will ingest this poison for another 50 years......

Thank the gods for Reverse Osmosis water systems.

Regards, Iwinder