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Originally posted by TheSpanishArcher
No blinders here, just denying ignorance. You should try it sometime. Terrorists only exist when we either create them or are them, and right now our government is a terrorist organization, terrorizing US. Think what you want, you have that right. I will disagree respectfully until the day I die.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Snowden is only a small timer, a total idiot who cares only about his own ego and martydoom the way a brainwashed radical militant would blow himself up killing scores of innocent men, women and babies.
What is needed is the ONE who gave him that information, and NO effort will be untried to make him talk, the same person or persons whom had divulge NATIONAL SECURITY information, more so relevant in this current war against Terrorism that knows no border and whose combatants hide amongst us, now warned by his idiocy to take better precautions so that they can be more effective to kill MORE innocent men, women and children around the world.
Best this fool wakes up on the harm he had done, offer up the information willingly, and not continue to sleep with the delusion of personal glory and martydom. For sure, there are NO 7 virgins waiting for him, only thousands of innocent dead screaming at him for eternity as all suicide bombers are facing.edit on 9-6-2013 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by jimmyx
Suppose you walk into work one day and see the goverment water boarding your janitors. Does this mean that you can not speak out about this or else risk being tried for espionage? Deja vue, where have we seen similar principles before?
of course you could speak out, but first I would call the police. IF these were government agents and if these were true janitors, and I walked in on them doing this, my ability to speak out would immediately be in doubt.
Originally posted by Bilk22
Originally posted by ProfessorT
Edward Snowden is NOT an American hero. I sincerely hope the security services start extradition proceedings and take him back to the US where he can be placed in front of a judge to answer for his actions. The leak of the information to The Guardian was reckless and Mr Snowden should never have breached national security. PRISM is in place for the right reasons - to protect people.
Protect people from what? You have a better chance of being hit by a bus or falling out of an airliner than the crap you're suggesting. The only reason this system was put in place was to protect the bums that are running our nation and all the rest, into the ground. It protects special interests. Not the average Joe. Not the guy who makes the country what it is. This type of surveillance is to protect big business and watch the backs of our dear elected officials. This guy is a true hero with a lot of balls!!!!!!
Originally posted by elouina
If the US wants to see the uprising that they fear, go ahead, knock that battery off our shoulders! I call for all Americans to stand united with Edward snowden!
Originally posted by elouinaHe was not out selling secrets to the terrorists.
Shouldn't Americans have freedom of speech? Or does this no longer apply?
Originally posted by beezzer
Edward Snowden has my full support.
Good on him! I hope more people like him come forward.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
Did you support Bush when he had the NSA doing this as well?
Originally posted by ProfessorT
PRISM is in place for the right reasons - to protect people.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by noonebutme
I agree with you that no one is that stupid, BUT you had only proven now yourself to be that one.
Spare me your personal insults and accusations, because when it comes from the mentally challenged, it is doubly worse and quadrably worse upon yourself as a member here.
As mentioned, the fool Snowden is not a target. The REAL wanted person/persons are the ones who gave him the information.
Support the fool all you want. Birds of a feather flocks together. Unfortunately, this is not disneyland or the best of times for idiots like Snowden to exist.
He should have quit journalism if he can't hack it and worked in a hot dog stand in disneyland or be a social worker in africa is he has that high amount of conscience he egoistically claimed, if he knows not the responsibiilites of being a true investigative journalist - you can't screw the world with irresponsible journalism hidden under the guise of journalistic freedom. Freedom and ego has its limits to society. Snowden had crossed his and WILL be made accountable. .edit on 9-6-2013 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by elouina
Originally posted by ProfessorT
I have not been "brainwashed". I am being logical. Mr Snowden has now divulged information that enemies of both the United States of America and Great Britain can learn from and study. The use of PRISM would have undoubtedly prevented serious crimes from taking place. My opinion is the same as President Obama's. In this day and age 100 per cent privacy cannot be reasonably expected when communicating electronically as it has become a tool used by terrorists and other criminals who launch cyber attacks.edit on 9-6-2013 by ProfessorT because: (no reason given)
Waut a minute... The US is SUPPOSED to be an open government ran by the people. No secrets... Plus there is no need to collect data from all the innocents also. Our constitution protects against this. So are you telling us that you wish to use our constitution as toilet paper?
no secrets?...so, do you want all American personal that maybe secretly listening in, or embedded into radical islamists groups to be exposed???....do you want the addresses, social security #'s, and itineraries of our top officials and their families to be public knowledge??? do you want to the entire world to know where our navy ships and subs are at any given time??? do you want the entire world to know the security measures we have in place for our electrical grids, our nuclear storage, our weapons, our government, etc???
and speaking of those great men that wrote the constitution....you don't think they kept secrets from the American people of the thirteen colonies?
the Justice Department was due to file a court motion Friday in its effort to keep secret an 86-page court opinion that determined that the government had violated the spirit of federal surveillance laws and engaged in unconstitutional spying
Originally posted by ProfessorT
I have not been "brainwashed". I am being logical. Mr Snowden has now divulged information that enemies of both the United States of America and Great Britain can learn from and study. The use of PRISM would have undoubtedly prevented serious crimes from taking place. My opinion is the same as President Obama's. In this day and age 100 per cent privacy cannot be reasonably expected when communicating electronically as it has become a tool used by terrorists and other criminals who launch cyber attacks.edit on 9-6-2013 by ProfessorT because: (no reason given)