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Originally posted by buster2010
With all the spies that the western governments keep trying to slip Iran can you blame them? And seeing how the media is controlled in the west we really can't point any fingers because the press really isn't free here.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
The totalitarian Iranian government propaganda machine wouldn't survive a 'free press'. That government tries to prop itself up as being innocent to it's people. But the dark truth is just the opposite. The government prisons are full of 'political prisoners' who are raped and tortured and murdered. If the Iranian people found out the truth about that, the government wouldn't last out a week. Iran has it's claws into the business of a whole lot of other countries on this planet ... and the Iranian government is an international sponsor of terrorism (Hezbollah and Hamas being two of the biggies).
I feel bad for the Iranians who buy into what their government is selling via the propaganda machine. Some of those people end up here parroting what they are told via official Iranian government propaganda outlets (what they call 'news' over there). Sure, the MSM here is tainted and biased .. but compared to the press in Iran, ours is a gem to behold.
Originally posted by IRockTheBox
Originally posted by buster2010
With all the spies that the western governments keep trying to slip Iran can you blame them? And seeing how the media is controlled in the west we really can't point any fingers because the press really isn't free here.
Wouldn't allowing journalists talk to whomever they wanted go a long way in normalizing relations with the West? After all, what have the Iranians got to hide?
While we're on the subject of being open and honest, maybe they could let UN weapons inspectors visit ALL of their plants, declared AND undeclared.
After all, they aren't trying to build a nuke right? So what have they got to hide?
Originally posted by IRockTheBox
Do you really think the average Iranian on the street is fooled?
As a matter of fact I think I've seen a couple of posters who claim to be Iranians living in Iran right here on ATS.
Originally posted by buster2010
With all the spies that the western governments keep trying to slip Iran can you blame them? And seeing how the media is controlled in the west we really can't point any fingers because the press really isn't free here.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
The totalitarian Iranian government propaganda machine wouldn't survive a 'free press'. That government tries to prop itself up as being innocent to it's people. But the dark truth is just the opposite. The government prisons are full of 'political prisoners' who are raped and tortured and murdered. If the Iranian people found out the truth about that, the government wouldn't last out a week. Iran has it's claws into the business of a whole lot of other countries on this planet ... and the Iranian government is an international sponsor of terrorism (Hezbollah and Hamas being two of the biggies).
I feel bad for the Iranians who buy into what their government is selling via the propaganda machine. Some of those people end up here parroting what they are told via official Iranian government propaganda outlets (what they call 'news' over there). Sure, the MSM here is tainted and biased .. but compared to the press in Iran, ours is a gem to behold.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by IRockTheBox
Do you really think the average Iranian on the street is fooled?
The Iranians who have shown up here certainly have been. Over the years, we've had a handful who somehow managed to get ATS access, and they have been spouting the typical totalitarian Iranian Government BS. I have no doubt that at least a few of them were Iranian government sponsored and/or agents. They were pretty obvious.
As a matter of fact I think I've seen a couple of posters who claim to be Iranians living in Iran right here on ATS.
And so you have to ask yourself .... why were they allowed access to ATS ... and you have to look at what they are posting - is it in lock step with the Iranian government.
Originally posted by buster2010
Btw what was the last nation that Iran invaded or even declared war on?
Originally posted by buster2010
Do you ever stop to question the propaganda or did you just choose to believe it? .
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by buster2010
Btw what was the last nation that Iran invaded or even declared war on?
Oh pahleeze ... Iran is just as corrupt as the rest. They aren't innocent. Their prisons are full of political prisoners being raped, beaten and murdered. The government has it's claws into other countries via terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, and they are active in South America. Iran isn't innocent.
Originally posted by buster2010
Do you ever stop to question the propaganda or did you just choose to believe it? .
.. says the guy who buys into the Iranian apologist rhetoric.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by buster2010
Btw what was the last nation that Iran invaded or even declared war on?
Oh pahleeze ... Iran is just as corrupt as the rest. They aren't innocent. Their prisons are full of political prisoners being raped, beaten and murdered. The government has it's claws into other countries via terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, and they are active in South America. Iran isn't innocent.
Originally posted by buster2010
Do you ever stop to question the propaganda or did you just choose to believe it? .
.. says the guy who buys into the Iranian apologist rhetoric.
Ali-Asghar Sijani, director of "The Emergence [of the Imam of the Era] is Very Near," a movie which praised Ahmadinejad, is once again arrested.
www.criticalthreats.org...
www.accessmylibrary.com...
Originally posted by buster2010
What's with the oh please
What nation has Iran declared war on? What's the matter question too hard?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by buster2010
What's with the oh please
Really? You don't get it? It's very simple. You are buying into the pro-Iranian rhetoric and at the same time you are closing your eyes to the FACTS that show Iran is NOT innocent. Most countries are not.
What nation has Iran declared war on? What's the matter question too hard?
A nation doesn't have to officially declare war with another to be at war.
Apparently that concept is too hard for you to understand.
Iran is NOT minding it's own business and is involved, in a very deadly way, around the world.
That's the truth. Deal with it.