"Those who control the United States Government are up to something BIG"

Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by EviLCHiMP

 

Well thanks for stopping by to offer your recipe for peace and understanding.

Do you have a theme song.

I am happy for you that you are not disturbed

What is this bliss you speak of?

Why are you disturbed? Is worrying about things that have not come to pass going to benefit you in this life? Is it going to make your reality more enjoyable? What's my bliss you ask? My bliss is knowing I'm still alive, knowing that there are loving people in this world that care more about others than themselves. I find bliss in my appreciation for what this life has given me this far; family, friends, the freedom to speak my mind across the world thanks to the internet, the freedom to pursue whatever I deem worth my while. I have a lot to be thankful for.

Maybe if you spent more time appreciating what you take for granted day to day you wouldn't have such a negative outlook on life. We all die at one point, do you want your last thoughts of this world to be shrouded with fear and negativity? I know I don't.

I don't see what's so bad about building an Empire.

Haha, and if you guys don't like it... Maybe you can vote for Ron Paul in 2016, too.

(I'm trolling - But I'm serious.)

All joking aside. I'm not going to knock the video, things like this are entertaining. It's plain to see that a shadow-government, indeed exists. As a matter of fact, it has for quite a long time. I'm going to it say right now, I've contemplated the idea of the people being one of the main contributors to the reasons (if true) the government would carry out such dubious actions. If the Government wanted to secretly build up the United States into a Police-State, they should know by now that they would undoubtedly get a way with it. The same thing goes for false-flag terrorism and creating a New world Order. The powers that be would clearly be able to see, that regardless of their plots becoming uncovered or exposed, the worst that's going to happen - is ridicule, conspiracy theories, and so on.

I'm a fan of it. I truly am.
I enjoy searching for the truth; I enjoy compelling stories; and I enjoy the idea of progression;

But, one thing I do know - is that contrary to what some others believe - a change of course, in the direction of our future as a Nation - is not likely to be as simple, as some may hope.
The idea of an age, where stories like this are no longer circulated in the media, is farfetched and border-line impossible. - Technologies are going to become more sophisticated; The web is going to continue to grow; and people are going to become even more susceptible to one another.

My personal belief system isn't completely summarized in what I am saying, and I think it is obvious that certain aspects in the way things are run, can definitely use some adjustments. - But what some people don't realize is that, we're half way through 2013. - The world is becoming more advanced. Tensions are constantly rising. - In some cases; like always, the masses are becoming more restless, more reckless, more capable, etc. etc. - Just think, right now there are people out there planning an 'attack' of their own. - On some unexpecting place, for some unknown reason. - Mainly because of their falsified beliefs, irrational thought process, or their pure psychotic tendencies. - Human nature is still human nature.

I could go on and on.

But, with that being said...

Until an all out assault on undeserving Americans, by our own Government, becomes a reality, I will not worry myself about the creation of a Totalitarian Police State. - There is a fine line between maintaining order in a growing population, and trying to establish complete 'control'; - Until that line is crossed, everything else will remain the same.

This is the New-Age. Buy an American flag, keep your Eyes open, have a pro-U.S.A. mentality, and do what you do.

How do you know everything else isn't just propaganda to turn America against itself?

*Be Enlightened*

peace.

If somebody really wanted to kick start martial law in the United States, knocking off the current President would be a very quick way to do it. Obama is not merely the nation's leader. He is more particularly the representative of a significant segment of the population that has until very recent times, thought of itself as aggrieved.

It is difficult for the authorities to simply clamp down on everyone. Clamping down on sections of Boston recently was accepted but not without question. There was grumbling. Looking back on it, with hindsight of course, tens of millions of dollars were spent to bring in one wounded, unarmed 19 year old. Dress rehearsal?

As with JFK, getting rid of Obama might well enable radical changes in US foreign policy. It might become radically more aggressive.

Unlike JFK, getting rid of Obama would also, almost certainly, trigger massive civil disobedience in the black population, presenting a clearly justifiable case for domestic military style intervention and the possible introduction of martial law nation wide.

When JFK was murdered, there were numerous powerful people who wanted him gone for diverse reasons. Has Obama become a similar sort of navigation hazard for powerful forces in his own country?

Is it likely that another such opportunity will arise again soon?

What else could one do, so easily, to create a massive social disturbance, one that would make the American people thank the government for imposing martial law?

You guy are so funny after 12 year and what and you still think you can make a difference

Lately I getting a few of these a day
Malicious Toolkit Website 14 and 31 now

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Sankari


There you go with your trolling again. You really should stick with what you know witch appears to be not much.

To the Op. I have felt the same way since 2008. I don't understand how people didn't see this coming.

Recently Michelle Obama did not accompany the President to California for a meeting with the new Chinese Premier and his wife.

The reasons for the First Lady's absence were not well accepted in the Chinese press. It was said that she wanted to be with her daughters for the end of the school year. It was speculated that the role played by the Chinese Premier's wife in the Tienanmin Massacre (serenading the troops, she's the Chinese Carla Bruni) might have been the real reason for what the Chinese press are viewing as a snub, but could there be more to it?

Is it possible that the Obama's have decided not to travel together in view of considerations along the line proposed by Webster Tarpley?

Well, I have seen my fair share of videos like this, and the sad part is noone will do anything to change. Yes some will try but in order to make a difference, millions need to act. Our nation is to divided to unite. I love my country and I would love for people to come together and make things right, but the fact of the matter is it's not going to happen. At least in my generation..and I'm 24..it's a shame. I hope I'm wrong though

It certainly seems as if the powers that be are taking big, although sublime steps towards something.
Politics are in turbulence all over the world, and have been for many years, many of them, but it looks like there have been a higher frequency of happenings since the millenium shift.

It's not war all over the place, but pawns are being moved here and there, the news covers the story, people are chocked but return to their daily lives and forget about all of it or what it means.

When the avarge person suddenly halts, or make a stop, to observe his or her surroundings and realize that it is all a twisted and inhumane play that one has been cast into the manuscripts of... And we are not the lead characters.

We are born, go to school in which you are told what to believe and how to operate in society, you graduate and find a job, where you are to make money in order to survive in a world of have and have-nots.
And so, you stand or sit there all day long, week after week, month after month and year after year; just getting by but somewhere in the deepest depths of your mind... You know it should not be like this.
In the shadowy corners of your soul, you know there is a better place in the heart of every human and a dream in every mind, but no one seems to think that it is possible... So the dream remains distant.

...here I go again, thinking too much for my own good.

I have a dream.

America wasn't founded as a democracy. It was founded as a republic. Originally, senators were appointed by each state legislature. This insured that the US senate was a voice to protect the rights of each state (which were really independent countries) and the house of representatives was the voice of the people (being directly voted into office by the people). This was brilliant in it's conception. Somewhere along the line (maybe someone will look up the year.. I don't know off hand) this was changed where senators are now also elected directly by the people. For all practical purposes, this paved the way for mob rule, and for the federal government to expand beyond it's original charter (with no representatives from the state legislatures in the senate to stop it). The political needs of the states no longer has a voice. Elections can be manipulated and we circumvented this protection built into our constitution when we changed this and went to direct elections. Nobody ever talks about it, but this has been an important misstep that has brought us where we are today. Once we moved away from being a republic and more towards a democracy, we lost sight of the true nature of our republic, and opened ourselves up to the tyranny we are seeing now.

(this post was in response to the user on page 1 who had the following quote in his post: "Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: 'A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.' - Elmer T. Peterson". Being new to posting on ATS, for some reason it didn't post as a reply to that post).

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reply to post by Sankari


Cointelpro

"COINTELPRO tactics have been alleged to include discrediting targets through psychological warfare"

Interesting tell us more ... you seem to be knowledgeable on the subject

It seems certain forums are plagued by these ... characters .

Usually spotted by post counts and obsessive round the clock posting .

Do you think they are military ? like centcon boiler rooms of these people ?

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Now you know why they want our guns and don't want us getting any more ammo....

I hear "Democracy" alot....

Here is a test and I hope you pass.
Tell me how many times the word democracy is used in the bill of rights or the constitution.


PS. Spoiler alert: USA is NOT a democracy and has never been, we are a rule of Law and not a rule of Man. We are a Republic!

I got an idea.......write your congressman....lol

reply to post by Sankari

Hello Sankari. Where have you been! What are people doing now, you ask. A small minority gets it but they are ridiculed into silence. Some see the changes, and are in denial ,or in a state of cognitive dissonance, saying things like "never here" or "it is a change that is temporary" or "Jeb Bush will swing the pendulum the other way when he gets elected". Still others buy into the free lunch theory and are complacent as long as there are unemployment benefits and food stamps. For others still it is considered intellectual to go against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
The globalists, zionists, bankers or what ever label you choose to place on the controllers, have leveraged their control of the media to advance their agenda to the point where, only a gun grab is required to complete the mission.
This video has arrived late to the party. The MSM ,fluoridated water, and televised sports and social benefits have worked together like a pacifier on a baby, to keep the masses content and subdued. MSM has an unwarranted level of credibility especially when mixed in with a watered down educational system and lack of critical thinking skills. It is said that Americans are the only people on the planet that believe their own propaganda.
Young people are taught from an early age to think of themselves as part of a collective group and not as society consisting of individuals. The government is the truth; question it and you are a conspiracy nut. Individual thinking attracts ridicule. Amnesty and the Dream Act are designed to destroy the uniqueness of the American Culture and your sense of identity of being part of the "American Tribe".
Because you believe the MSM and all it's machinations, you are drawn into a false reality that has been created for you. You hear only what they want you to hear. Peace is war, love is hate, freedom is slavery. The danger in the media is not what you are told but more by what you are not told.
You do not live in the world you think you live in. Your freedom is gone. Screw up and have a secret trial under the Patriot Act; it has happened! Even worse offend the state and be arrested in secret under the NDAA. As the video claims the media is your judge, jury and executioner. Go against the party line and you are a potential terrorist. You live in a world of biometric surveillance, airport patdowns, checkpoints irs harassment and media mind control. The video does not make people feel powerless. The media creates this scenario.
The sense of belonging to family is under assault. You are surrounded by divorce attorney's ready to rape you, feminism, job equality, perverse lifestyles, pornography and decadence at a level never seen before. Today perverse is normal. The education system trains kids to report on their parents. Your are being programmed to not even trust your family. You can only rely on the state as long as you comply. Obedience to the state is the ticket to survival.
The design of the new system is almost complete. The US economy has been destroyed by design. The Cloward Piven model is being implemented in order to bankrupt the US. Media tells you that a recovery is underway and all the factories that have moved to China are coming back. Beneficial trade agreements like NAFTA, WTO, GATT and now the secret Trans Pacific Partnership all of which were designed to gut the US economy are still in force. Carbon taxes which will not be introduced in China and India will complete the job. Trillions of taxpayer dollars have been handed over to the bankers and Military Industrial Complex to keep America healthy and safe.
The video is right. It is essentially too late to turn back the tide. The zionists, bankers, globalists own the game and set the rules. They still need useful idiots like Foreign troops on US soil, HS, the Police and the military to enforce their rules. This is why recruiting in these agencies has favored psychopathic personalities. The greatest weapon they have is the television set. The people have been duped and there are too few of us who are awake to turn the tide of change back; we are the lepers nobody wants to touch. I say bring it on, push the reset button and perhaps we will transition through the violence and somehow end up in a more compassionate, and kinder world. I am old, I am ready, I am disillusioned with what humanity has become and am waiting for God to push the reset button.

reply to post by Nucleardiver
I'm glad I read your post, its right on. The vid on the other hand was just more of the same that is harped on every day by all talk shows, all true but still just more of the same.

Point being people just don't seem to understand that what we are seeing and will continue to see is what we are as a species, this can not be changed. We as Americans are just the last to see what we as humans have become. How else has 24% of Americas population brought us to this point if not by appealing to our weakness's and nurturing what we do best as a species..........take the path of least resistance.

Originally posted by Tranceopticalinclined
trying to figure out if I should be dancing throughout this wholething or if I should listen up.
They do need to lose the soundtrack, this isn't soultrain manifesto. Although ( runs to create a new reality tv show )

The brothers in the live broadcasts I watched were not arrested alive and well, I watched as 1st the nekkid guy was arrested, then told the older brother was run over by the younger an than that it was a shootout he died in and that the brother ran over the body as well as the younger brother shot or wounded and hid in a boat in a backyard of which was reported by owners of property.

Seems interested just not happy with soundtrack, like a new shockumentary.

All I can say is, that if ever a day comes that our country asks it's ABC agencies to take over it's public, that will be the day the crickets are heard, let's put it this way...

You have one agent, and behind every agent is a family of 10 or more county uncles and grandparents ( feel me?)
Why would they not want to protect them rather than carry out some dictatorlike order of imposed martial law, as a military veteran, I doubt you have understood that people don't blindly follow orders like in the movies. Much of who is in these ABC agencies are probably in back up militias...

If our government has backup plans, why wouldn't it's employees? So that if a day ever came, they wouldn't have to blindly do things they otherwise wouldn't. I am my own Master, So are you all. That part of this issue has always bothered me, American Citizens wouldn't hurt fellow citizens unless they were mentally unstable.

edit on 7-6-2013 by Tranceopticalinclined because: (no reason given)

There is technology which places EMF on certain parts of the brain which allows a person to be less empathetic!
IMO this would allow for these people to follow orders they wouldn't under normal conditions! I once thought that
most Americans would not dare harm innocent civilians but today a person would do anything to save their own ass! I don't know if all of that video is fact but I do see a similar world coming into being! Fear and paranoia are powerful motivators and though we may not be at the point in time where the assertions in the video become reality, we are not far from it! Beware denial because of cognitive dissonance because any reality is possible!

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I could not have said it any better my friend! Kudos! Especially the last line "I am old, I am ready, I am disillusioned with what humanity has become and am waiting for God to push the reset button".
I just hope God is still listening!

reply to post by GrantedBail
The vid is all true but just more of the same but with a solution this time. Go up to the people with the guns and try and change there minds and if you make it that far maybe you will get to someone in charge and you can change there mind.

Once you realize either before or after you try and talk to these people that most of them are doing this because they want to,(human nature and we are predators) then the idea of attempting to reason with them would be a little futile and real dangerous.

This has been coming for 75+ years so the majority of the people involved are deep into the agenda and just as deeply believe in what they are doing........... Just my opinion.

Originally posted by Nucleardiver


We make it just fine and have money put away for emergencies and retirement not because we are rich, not because we take the income redistribution that the government hands out, but because we budget and live within our means.

Thank you, and thank you for your service. If there were more like you and fewer "takers" in this country we would be far far better off, as a country.

Personally, I am one of those who believe that we should be responsible for ourselves, our families, our actions and the outcomes of our actions. I believe the govt should help those who are having a tough go through no fault of their own, but ONLY if they make an honest effort to help themselves.
For those who just want to sit on the couch and accept money and housing from the govt, I say screw you all. You didn't earn it, are not entitled to it and do not deserve it.

"If you cant' trust us, then we are going to have some problems" - President Obama, June 7 2013