How to become Pope - ( the Most UnGodly process Ever)

That video was hilarious! I think I knew it as an infant when they poured water over my head while I wriggled in terror and tears. That infant instinct was in tact. Then as a kid when I would sit there and think "huh?" I believe in God all the way but don't talk to or see Him through this lens. Thanks for sharing. It was truly a well done video.

I remember watching this video when Pope Francis was elected. Very entertaining and informant. To be honest I can understand the secrecy. Even through there are various Christian groups with different leaders.

I loved the 66.6% it was enlightening...

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

 

Ok, so that's the procedure. Where does

God's right hand man, most high priest appointed by God to watch over his flock? Hardly. God has nothing to do with This political white wash.

come in? Did you think God was going to send a dove with a tattooed name down the chimney?

And how a religion chooses it's leader matters how, exactly?

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The thing is.. I'm not Catholic. I have heard it said many times by Catholics that the Pope is among other things: Holy, Infallible, appointed by God in some supernatural and divine way. There are Catholics .. little old ladies who go to church every time the doors open for Mass who are so steeped in tradition they really believe the Pope is chosen Special by God because He is the most Holiest man on Earth ( I dont pretend to know how these people thinks this happens) but i'm saying the process is so full of Human error and failings, vanity, pride favoritism etc.. that these notions cannot simply be true.

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

 

Ok, so that's the procedure. Where does

God's right hand man, most high priest appointed by God to watch over his flock? Hardly. God has nothing to do with This political white wash.

come in? Did you think God was going to send a dove with a tattooed name down the chimney?

And how a religion chooses it's leader matters how, exactly?

edit on 6-6-2013 by charles1952 because: Spelling

Half the Christian "religion" doesn't consider him a leader. Maybe you should have said that a bit differently.

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

 

Ok, so that's the procedure. Where does

God's right hand man, most high priest appointed by God to watch over his flock? Hardly. God has nothing to do with This political white wash.

come in? Did you think God was going to send a dove with a tattooed name down the chimney?

And how a religion chooses it's leader matters how, exactly?

edit on 6-6-2013 by charles1952 because: Spelling

The thing is.. I'm not Catholic. I have heard it said many times by Catholics that the Pope is among other things: Holy, Infallible, appointed by God in some supernatural and divine way. There are Catholics .. little old ladies who go to church every time the doors open for Mass who are so steeped in tradition they really believe the Pope is chosen Special by God because He is the most Holiest man on Earth ( I dont pretend to know how these people thinks this happens) but i'm saying the process is so full of Human error and failings, vanity, pride favoritism etc.. that these notions cannot simply be true.

I think that you're mixing fact and fiction in there, which is pretty common, as regards the Roman Catholic Church.

We believe that the Holy Spirit acts, through the Arch-Bishops, to select the man who needs to be Pope and lead the church at that point in time. He is still just a guy, a sinner like all of us (as opposed to "the most Holiest man on Earth",) but he's the leader of the largest church on Earth, and it seems rational that God would have something to do with that.

The "infallibility" thing is very misunderstood, but what it says is that under very specific conditions and while doing a very specific act, the Pope is infallible. That doesn't mean that he doesn't make mistakes otherwise or, again, that he isn't a sinner like the rest of us, it just means that there are circumstances where we feel that he is inerrant.

Here is a basic article that you may find helpful: Papal Infallibility

Click here for more information.

reply to post by IamJewish


No it does not. A few sick people have sinned out of over a billion believers. Who all condemn those sins.

You're a bigot, simple as that.

Originally posted by IamJewish
It’s the blatant truth regardless of what you say or any body else says. It’s the only religion in the world, and most likely in the galaxy, that uses god as an excuse to trick little boys into doing ungodly things after Sunday school.Fact!

Not a "fact". The percentage of pedophile priests is roughly the same as the percentage in the general population (about 4%).

There are Muslim Imam pedophiles. There are Methodist Minister pedophiles. There are Pentecostal Oneness Minister pedophiles. There are even founders of religions who are pedophiles.

In other words, they're all over the place, not just in the Roman Catholic Church. Wise up.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by IamJewish

 

No it does not. A few sick people have sinned out of over a billion believers. Who all condemn those sins.

You're a bigot, simple as that.

A few sick people huh,you cant be serious !

the central governing body of the Catholic Church, has "considered sex abuse allegations concerning about 3,000 priests dating back up to 50 years" according to the Vatican's Promoter of Justice

SAD!

reply to post by IamJewish


Funny... I feel the same way about people who believe in the OT...

Christian or otherwise... *shrug*

To each their own I suppose

Originally posted by IamJewish

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by IamJewish

 

No it does not. A few sick people have sinned out of over a billion believers. Who all condemn those sins.

You're a bigot, simple as that.

A few sick people huh,you cant be serious !

the central governing body of the Catholic Church, has "considered sex abuse allegations concerning about 3,000 priests dating back up to 50 years" according to the Vatican's Promoter of Justice

SAD!

Weren't very good at math in school were ya?

Divide the known AND aledged abuses by 1.1 billion and you get 1/100,000th of 1%.

That's certainly "few" and an extreme rare exception. You are a bigot and you're trolling.

reply to post by IamJewish

97% of all cases are catholic, Christian, and Jesus related, you need to wake up and realize how false Christianity is, and what happens when you believe in a false god and a false picture.

Please. Show us all which of Christ's teachings condones or encourages child molestation.

reply to post by Akragon

Dear Akragon,

You know you're one of my favorite guys here, we agree sometimes, but even though I might question the premises you start from on occasion, you've got a really strong and creative mind.

I have a special operation I'd like you to undertake for me. Perhaps you've noticed a poster in this thread with the name IamJewish. In one of his posts, he uses the phrase "We in the Jewish community . . ." That seems to be a lot of emphasis on the idea that he is a Jew. I wonder, what with this being a conspiracy website and all, do you think he really is? Or, is he perhaps operating under a false flag? But then who in the world would want to create division between Christians and Jews?

Anyway, now that that's out of the way, let me ask another favor from you as a member of the skeptical community. Does adjensen's explanation seem sound to you? I know, you'll have to, just for the sake of argument, accept the idea of a God and Holy Spirit and such, but does it "hang together" in your eyes?

I'm asking because I was really impressed by his answers on this thread and I want to see if my judgment in these matters is still sound.

With respect,
Charles1952