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Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by 200Plus
Originally posted by 200Plus
I have to wonder how many of the champions of immigration have illegals for neighbors...........
I lived in Phoenix for 15 years and I've now lived in New Mexico for almost 15 years. I can't say if my neighbors in any of the places I've lived have been here illegally, but chances are, some were. In any case, I've certainly had my share of interaction and observations of them. And I'm speaking specifically of people from Mexico. Some were less than pleasant, while some were wonderful people who contributed to society and the economy and loved this country. Exactly like the people who were born here.
Of course if you individualize these cases there is no problem. I am referring to the issue of illegal immigration from a generalized perspective.
It never benefits the host country in the long run. History is filled with examples of this. Spain in the 1500's when the Muslims migrated there would be a prime example of a country falling from a world power to one of mediocrity until the expulsion of the foreigners.
Its happened it Germany, in Britain with the Saxons......Sweden.....the list goes on and on.
Spain in the 1500's when the Muslims migrated
Originally posted by Tuttle
reply to post by Hopechest
Spain in the 1500's when the Muslims migrated
You do realise the Moors had conquered Spain for 500 years right?
Here is something also about Saxons who basicaly created the Kingdom of England, you really do not seem to have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Your fact sheet is leaving out the statistic that the majority of income earned is sent back to the country of origin.
If your view was correct than having total open borders would be the ideal way to go but as history shows us, illegal immigration has never been positive.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Hopechest
Your fact sheet is leaving out the statistic that the majority of income earned is sent back to the country of origin.
Their income is insignificant compared to the JOBS they help create. The JOBS for American citizens. You didn't read the information from the link, did you? It was talking about how immigrants (legal and illegal) create JOBS here in the US. Not how their personal income adds to the economy...
If your view was correct than having total open borders would be the ideal way to go but as history shows us, illegal immigration has never been positive.
If the borders were open, there would be no such thing as illegal immigration, so your statement makes no sense.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Yes of course, the point I was trying to make is that an influx of immigrants changes the dynamics of the host country.
For better or worse but it does change it.
An anti-legal immigration group is out with more ads this week -- this time aimed at young voters -- targeting politicians from both sides who support allowing more legal immigrants into this country,
The ad released Tuesday by NumbersUSA features a young man rapping -- a press release calls it "light, humorous rap lyrics about his jobless predicament" -- and asking why the government lets in legal immigrants when so many recent college graduates are out of work.