Obama made secret deal to support Hillary in 2016?

reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Who is going to support Mr. Biden? The prez choose as his VP and then what, throw him under the bus and say Im supporting Hillary. If I was Hillary I wouldn't want Obamas support, may hurt more then it will help. Called starting with a clean plate.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jam321
IMO, the key to the 2016 elections is the Republicans. If they send a qualified candidate that people can relate to, they win. If they send the same ol same ol, Hillary or some other Democrat will be the next President.

You'd need a Conservative candidate. If they send another mush, establishment Progressive like McCain or Romney it will be over with.

No, because conservative is a WORD... And it seems to represent being over the top, FAR to the right and exclusive. The GOP needs to run a centrist and a populist, IF it wants to win.

You conservatives are far too hung up on "CONSERVATIVE", and it makes you unable to see how average people
view "conservatives", like Palin, Bachman, West and the rest...

Originally posted by Ancient Champion

Originally posted by jam321
IMO, the key to the 2016 elections is the Republicans. If they send a qualified candidate that people can relate to, they win. If they send the same ol same ol, Hillary or some other Democrat will be the next President.

Who should they send? Some rock star wannabe with zero experience like obama who still got elected thanks to the dead people who voted for him? Someone like that?

Maybe they shouldn't send someone who has 10 houses, 8 cars and hundreds of millions of dollars, a person who regular people can relate to??? (just a guess)

Originally posted by Tarzan the apeman.
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Who is going to support Mr. Biden? The prez choose as his VP and then what, throw him under the bus and say Im supporting Hillary. If I was Hillary I wouldn't want Obamas support, may hurt more then it will help. Called starting with a clean plate.

Biden is not going to run, he will be too old, period.

Originally posted by 2ndthought

Originally posted by hamburgerler

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Why would this be a "secret deal"? I mean... to me, it's pretty obvious that Obama would support Hillary in 2016, if she runs.

This seems like a non-news item, to me. The whole article sounds like hearsay and conjecture... an opinion piece...

OH! I think I see why.

Adapted from the new paperback edition of Edward Klein’s “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House” (Regnery Publishing), out this week.

I noticed that too

Obama haters are gonna be in for a big surprise once the economy is declared to be "revived", which should occur before the year is out.

It is such a bad strategy to spend years MAKING UP bad qualities to assign Obama, because WHEN reality comes to roost, Obama will look like a genius. Not a Kenyan, Marxist, Islamist, who is lazy, inept and clueless.

It is like the "boy who cried wolf"

And will the people who decide the economy is "revived" be the same that declared 2010 the "recovery summer"?

abcnews.go.com...

And then there's this, which I'm sure you'll find a way to refute.

www.forbes.com...

Oh, nice

an article from three years ago AND an editorial piece

BTW, the author of the editorial said, and I quote; "the American economy was poised to take off on an historic boom in the summer of 2009, if he could only have stayed out of the way"

Really?

Gee, because in 2008 America lost 2.5 million jobs, the most jobs lost second only to 1945. But somehow America "was poised to take off on an historic boom in the summer of 2009".

That guy must have an IQ of 73

Knowing Bill Clinton's political views, I cannot believe he would support his wife. And on another note, I am willing to bet that the only reason these two are still together is political. It just looks more "traditional" that they "worked out" their differences. They are both intelligent individuals, and I can see exactly why Bill would not want to support Obama, especially after his first term in office. Unfortunately however, the Republicans are likely to have the edge in the next election, as the people are wondering just what Obama and the Democrats did for them. Little do they remember however just how bad of a predicament Bush and the Republicans got us into, but that is the American populace for you.

Originally posted by hamburgerler

Originally posted by Ancient Champion

Originally posted by jam321
IMO, the key to the 2016 elections is the Republicans. If they send a qualified candidate that people can relate to, they win. If they send the same ol same ol, Hillary or some other Democrat will be the next President.

Who should they send? Some rock star wannabe with zero experience like obama who still got elected thanks to the dead people who voted for him? Someone like that?

Maybe they shouldn't send someone who has 10 houses, 8 cars and hundreds of millions of dollars, a person who regular people can relate to??? (just a guess)

What we don't need is a friend, What we do need is someone who knows what he's doing as president. If you need someone to relate to then call a therapist.

Originally posted by hamburgerler
I think many things come into play. I think people will take from it based upon what they are inclined to believe.

My conservative uncle (who is not very happy with conservatism right now) pointed out at a family brunch that
it appears that once again it will take a Democrat to actually reduce the deficit. He thinks it is because there is no real pressure put on the right, by the right itself. This pressure is however, very effective when it comes to influencing the Democratic policy.

That's actually a really good point by your uncle.The Republican Congress that tightened budgets in the 90's with Clinton rubber-stamped all of Bush's spending in the 00's.

Originally posted by BobM88

Originally posted by hamburgerler
I think many things come into play. I think people will take from it based upon what they are inclined to believe.

My conservative uncle (who is not very happy with conservatism right now) pointed out at a family brunch that
it appears that once again it will take a Democrat to actually reduce the deficit. He thinks it is because there is no real pressure put on the right, by the right itself. This pressure is however, very effective when it comes to influencing the Democratic policy.

That's actually a really good point by your uncle.The Republican Congress that tightened budgets in the 90's with Clinton rubber-stamped all of Bush's spending in the 00's.

Really Ham? Because you just told someone else something different about conservatism

No, because conservative is a WORD... And it seems to represent being over the top, FAR to the right and exclusive. The GOP needs to run a centrist and a populist, IF it wants to win.

You conservatives are far too hung up on "CONSERVATIVE", and it makes you unable to see how average people
view "conservatives", like Palin, Bachman, West and the rest...

So is conservatism just a word or what?

They cut some deals but no tthe ones as described, thats all just smoke and red herrings.
Thery had dirt on Obama which would have prevented him from ever being POTUS. Not just them, very high power brokers did. Obama was owned completely and the Clintons were one above him on the pecking order. The Clintons hand picked his staff, chose his policy, chose his appointments, shaped his agenda. I'm not saying the Clintons run things, they just are way up there, as are the Bushes. But they all get their orders from the real people in charge. Obama's just the empty suit, the rubber stamp, the guy put in office and kept there by means other than democracy and a fair election.
So why was Obama put in and not Hillary? Hillary won the primary, technically. Obama was just more useful and at least at the time seemed to be a better sell. He's been a disappointment and few people over estimate his abilities any more. So he could be cut loose and made to be the fall guy at any time. I think that will happen. The goal here is to make him the bad guy and send him off as a failure and blame him while keeping the american people divided so the NEXT empty suit can take his place.
They've already got to Governor Christie. I'm waiting to see who he replaces Lautenberg with or if he suddenly switches parties. Is he the next chosen POTUS or the guy chosen to run and lose to the guy they have already decided will win.

Originally posted by hamburgerler

Originally posted by 2ndthought

Originally posted by hamburgerler

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Why would this be a "secret deal"? I mean... to me, it's pretty obvious that Obama would support Hillary in 2016, if she runs.

This seems like a non-news item, to me. The whole article sounds like hearsay and conjecture... an opinion piece...

OH! I think I see why.

Adapted from the new paperback edition of Edward Klein’s “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House” (Regnery Publishing), out this week.

I noticed that too

Obama haters are gonna be in for a big surprise once the economy is declared to be "revived", which should occur before the year is out.

It is such a bad strategy to spend years MAKING UP bad qualities to assign Obama, because WHEN reality comes to roost, Obama will look like a genius. Not a Kenyan, Marxist, Islamist, who is lazy, inept and clueless.

It is like the "boy who cried wolf"

And will the people who decide the economy is "revived" be the same that declared 2010 the "recovery summer"?

abcnews.go.com...

And then there's this, which I'm sure you'll find a way to refute.

www.forbes.com...

Oh, nice

an article from three years ago AND an editorial piece

BTW, the author of the editorial said, and I quote; "the American economy was poised to take off on an historic boom in the summer of 2009, if he could only have stayed out of the way"

Really?

Gee, because in 2008 America lost 2.5 million jobs, the most jobs lost second only to 1945. But somehow America "was poised to take off on an historic boom in the summer of 2009".

That guy must have an IQ of 73

edit on 3-6-2013 by hamburgerler because: (no reason given)

You obviously missed the point. Why am I not surprised.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Why be secret about it? He already showed his support by naming her to a cabinet position....

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Why be secret about it? He already showed his support by naming her to a cabinet position....

Yeah, but now Obama will probably "friend" her on Facebook.

reply to post by Gazrok


You have a point and I think that was part of the deal in 2008 to get her to quietly go the way she did and actually come to his side after her own race pretty well fell apart. Given her degree of disappointment? I was shocked she even took it.

I think the point to it being secret is just a real basic one. I imagine, in the White House environment, who the President is going to fully support and endorse to be his successor in election efforts is a pretty highly coveted thing to have. I can't think of many endorsements more meaningful in a general way of looking at this.

So, if he was making promises of endorsement that far out from an election? It's not a scandal..and it's his choice to make, of course. However, I can fully understand in this case how making one person happy would make a half dozen into enemies. Nothing Obama would want to make an open point any sooner than he had to?

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


She has not a chance in hell, look how she handles her current job!

reply to post by Staroth


You may be interested to know I voted for Obama in the Missouri Primary in 2008...to block Hillary's run. Why? Well.. at the time, I really thought Hillary was as bad as it could get. Oh silly little bunny I was....and I said the same thing about Obama as you do about Hillary for slightly different reasons.

'Can't win... No way... No history, no accomplishments...no recognition!'. A perfectly safe candidate to Vote-Block Hillary right? Errrrr.... Wow... That was a learning experience in how not to approach elections for me, eh?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jam321
IMO, the key to the 2016 elections is the Republicans. If they send a qualified candidate that people can relate to, they win. If they send the same ol same ol, Hillary or some other Democrat will be the next President.

You'd need a Conservative candidate. If they send another mush, establishment Progressive like McCain or Romney it will be over with.

Please, Please oh pretty please run a Conservative candidate. Rick Santorum would be a great choice, run someone just like him. GOP doomed to lose elections till they give the social conservatives aka religious whackjobs the boot.