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Originally posted by InhaleExhale
I don't accuse anyone of being paranoid or delusion
Paranoia keeps our delusions revolving
Performing such an exercise with so many variables unknown leads to a paranoid and delusional
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
I don't accuse anyone of being paranoid or delusion
Yes you do.
Paranoia keeps our delusions revolving
Performing such an exercise with so many variables unknown leads to a paranoid and delusional
Why are you dishonest?
Isn't everything the government does by definition a conspiracy? Because they are working together, secretly, and for the most part put themselves above the law. (like Members of Congress are entitled to do INSIDER TRADING! ... they make their own laws)
Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
by doing this you can also exercise your brain to know that you can do this with anything, and you will use more of a critical mind, that would need more proof, and research because you now see that our minds can create anything out of ... well anything.
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by yourmaker
You can BUY rubber bands?! Blasphemy!!
Here I was, just keepin' 'em every afternoon when the postman dropped off my mail.
As for "all that money going nowhere" --- that's not a conspiracy. That's just capitalism at work. It's not a conspiracy when everyone agrees to operate by the laws the system orchestrates. That's called complacency, not conspiracy.
~ Wandering Scribe
People in the open market trying to compete is not a conspiracy, or, if it is they risk going to prison.
Originally posted by Redarguo
Yeah I've always wondered why people think its a conspiracy that wealthy/powerful people want to maintain or increase their wealth/power. Just capitalism really. That said i'm sure some are evolved in conspiracies in order to do so.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
People in the open market trying to compete is not a conspiracy, or, if it is they risk going to prison.
Originally posted by Redarguo
Yeah I've always wondered why people think its a conspiracy that wealthy/powerful people want to maintain or increase their wealth/power. Just capitalism really. That said i'm sure some are evolved in conspiracies in order to do so.
Conspiracies by government officials that are the concern. If a cop kills an innocent person, guess who investigates: the police department.
If the CIA assassinates a foreign leader and something goes wrong, who investigates? The CIA.
Why would lawmakers NOT make laws to put themselves at a better position than regular folks? (They will be re-elcted almost certainly anyways)
Do you really want to close your eyes and give them carte blanche to tax you,exploit your labor, and overcharge you for the services by those government monopolies like water and gas? And one day they may say 'sorry, there is a shortage'. Going to survive without water?
Originally posted by Redarguo
Like I said (for the most part) that's what capitalism is, wage slave, exploitation, puppet governments. The systems corrupt, capitalism is the root not a symptom of the problem. Many academics have written about this (and much much more) more than 50 years ago
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by Redarguo
Like I said (for the most part) that's what capitalism is, wage slave, exploitation, puppet governments. The systems corrupt, capitalism is the root not a symptom of the problem. Many academics have written about this (and much much more) more than 50 years ago
This thread is about Conspiracy, though, not the items you listed.
Originally posted by Redarguo[/i
It was a repose to the boded parts of your post, ie what you listed
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by Redarguo[/i
It was a repose to the boded parts of your post, ie what you listed
You think the secret services of communist or fascist countries do not assassinate foreigners? You think your labor is not exploited in Russia or China?
To get back to the topic of conspiracy, governments have power, the more centralized it is, the greater it is. What do they do with that power? They use it to increase their own and decrease yours! To prevent you from rebelling they do it in secret, and blame the events on something else, just like any common criminal does.
Because they belong to the same organization, the government, they can collaborate in secret. That is why it is a conspiracy.
That is correct. They are. Governments are designed to control power. For what purpose? To make people happy? (haha) They are to enrich the owners or those at the top, and, those who work for them (government officials). Show me a government where this is not the case!
Originally posted by Redarguo
You are stretching the definition of conspiracy. All governments or groups of any people would be a conspiracy if you applied this standard.
Give me the name of a country, then I can comment specifically, and I'll show you the conspiracy there. If you are afraid of mentioning the name of a country - why ? Because your country does not want you to be happy, or want you to express an opinion?
You are attributing more power to governments than the actually have, at least where I live.
You are right, this reduces the randomness and enhances the image. But it doesn't prevent them from power and control, as you can see from the fact that these principles are being abandoned in the US now. Gitmo: no magistrates/rights, journalists being secretly surveilled, those who expose government wrong doing are tried for treason. Even political asylum is non-existant anymore because the US is preventing countries from granting it. There is nowhere to escape absolute control.
Add to that the right to trial by jury and the use of lay magistrates
What other sense of cabal is there? Conspiracy means: behind the scenes.
Yeah I agree that what you mention is conspiracy, cabals..., but not in the sense of an Illuminati orchestrating things from behind the scenes.
Give me the name of a country, then I can comment specifically, and I'll show you the conspiracy there. If you are afraid of mentioning the name of a country - why ?
Because your country does not want you to be happy, or want you to express an opinion?
As abhorrent as gitmo is they are prisoners of war. Its not a recent thing either Britain had similar in the 80s in Norther Ireland, modern anti terror legislation is just an extension of the Norther Ireland prevention of Terrorism Act. I don't agree with the act in principle but there are safe guards in place to prevent beyond of that which is necessary, its periodically reviewed by Parliament, the Courts and independent commissions. Perversions of justice do occur but at the same time emergency powers are needed to stop extremist elements. A nations right to defense will all thrump all others.
You are right, this reduces the randomness and enhances the image. But it doesn't prevent them from power and control, as you can see from the fact that these principles are being abandoned in the US now. Gitmo: no magistrates/rights,
As per contract he signed up for if you are reference snoden but fair point in the UK he would probably be acquitted by a jury as has happened in the past, he would be tried under the Official Secrets Act not for treason,
journalists being secretly surveilled, those who expose government wrong doing are tried for treason.
What other sense of cabal is there? Conspiracy means: behind the scenes.
Originally posted by Redarguo
Take 9/11 for example I have heard theories of "proof" that nukes were used,
...and then it would be benevolent (towards the people of their country). It's on that basis that most Americans (and people in most other countries) accept the perceived reality.
Originally posted by Redarguo
Despite not seeing eye to eye I actually agree with what you post. Im not saying that conspiracy does not exist btw, I just don't see a globalized agenda behind it all. IE The US has interests that are different from Russia.
Because on that day a third WTC building collapsed (Building 7). There is just no denying that it came down in a controlled demolition. Because some were lucky enough to catch it on video. It was reported on BBC and FOX before it actually happened.
. Btw, court records show that the 1993 WTC bomb was provided by the FBI.
Originally posted by Redarguo
I don't believe (the 9/11 conspiracy) precisely because I invested the time, a few years back
Yeah they misspoke a building is / had collapsed
you heard that the " fact " that the twin towers fell at free fall speed
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
They foresaw the future by "misspeaking"? All of them?
How did Guiliani know in advance the towers would collapse?
Aids, Marx and the 20 other topics you mention solely to distract from a serious discussion, IMHO.
Isn't everything the government does by definition a conspiracy? Because they are working together, secretly, and for the most part put themselves above the law. (like Members of Congress are entitled to do INSIDER TRADING! ... they make their own laws)
Originally posted by StarsInDust
Of course, not everything is a conspiracy. Take soap for instance, we could say it is promoted by a society that wants clean people. But hey, I don't see anything wrong with that. Please, everyone, buy your soap. I don't mind it one little bit.