Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby

reply to post by MidnightTide


176,632 people in the UK describe themselves as Jedi Knights

The force is not, apparently, strong with them though as they are in decline.

My point by quoting that is that stats like that don't mean much.

Although, the Jedi figures above are actual. The ones you quote are made up from samples of probably 50-100 people at a time, and dependant on when and where the study was done will affect the answers given.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by nenothtu
When I was in Nicaragua, they had a name for folks like this. they called them "piricoacos", "yapping street dogs" They applied that name because street dogs often go along barking just to hear the echo inside their own heads, and it seemed fitting.

Some posters, when incapable of refuting an argument based upon empirical evidence, are forced to descend to personal attacks.

They do so because of the weakness of their own position.

Well, to be honest I've not been through this entire thread yet, so I can't say if you've presented any empirical evidence here yet. Based upon your history in other threads, I'm pretty confident that I won't find any here, either - just more attempts at spin. We'll see as I move along, however.

Originally posted by nenothtu
It seems to just irritate the crap out of some people when their bluff is called, and then pointed out that it was called. they then have to bark overtime just to find a higher notch to place their bar on.

Hey - I'm just following DHS guidelines - "see something, say something".

Where's my citizenship medal now?

On second thoughts, what are you on about?

edit on 26-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

DHS wants us to point out extremists, so I'm pointing one out.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by LvSLoLo
Yea sure they ''condemn'' it...more like they are doing it to try and stop a race war

That's a bad thing?

In a way yes, they constantly do awful things to white/black/asians but when the tables are turned they act innocent and hide behind the race wall and it pisses me off

reply to post by LvSLoLo


So you want a race war?

Originally posted by MidnightTide
Just a few?

Two-thirds of young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

95% of honor killings in the West are perpetrated by Muslim fathers and brothers or their proxies.
fullcomment.nationalpost.com...

Middle East Quarterly: 91 percent of honor killings are committed by Muslims worldwide.
www.canadafreepress.com...

BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".
www.expressandstar.com...

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
www.torontosun.com...
www.macdonaldlaurier.ca...

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
www.telegraph.co.uk...

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
www.cbsnews.com...&date=2011-04-06
www.webcitation.org...

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
www.cbsnews.com...&date=2011-04-06
www.webcitation.org...

honor killings is not the subject, and is only a small percent of the population of Muslims. Secondly, you made these statistics appear impressive but you actually plagerised from one biased website for all these sources, good try!!!! www.thereligionofpeace.com...

reply to post by intrepid


No what i want is a world where people dont hide behind there race/religion and shut the # up and get on with there lifes

Originally posted by MidnightTide
Two-thirds of young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

I don't know about the rest of them, but I, with most of Britain to back me up, would not believe the Daily Mail on any subject. Especially not things that give you cancer or things relating to immigration.

Originally posted by intrepid

Even though Muslim's are standing up righteously it doesn't appease you and the other guy. We on the other hand accept that Muslims are capable of compassion. Unlike some here.

It doesn't appear to appease most of the posters on this thread either.

Perhaps it is because many Muslims hold values that are incompatible with Western values?

For instance,

Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance of homosexuality, says poll

Another poll found

Only 29% of British Muslims respect the right of homosexuals to have a relationship. 56% disagree.

Source: ICM Poll for the BBC
Fieldwork dates: 15th-20th June 2009

reply to post by CottonwoodStormy


Come now, the "topic" is extremism in Islam, regardless of the OP. It is what all the threads are about, from the Bombings in Boston to the incidents in Sweden and France. So go ahead and label that site as biased, your opinion, my opinion...we all have one. I happen to like mine.

Originally posted by CottonwoodStormy

Secondly, you made these statistics appear impressive but you actually plagerised from one biased website for all these sources, good try!!!! www.thereligionofpeace.com...

He has plagiarized links?

How can he have plagiarized links to surveys by third parties?

That makes no sense.

reply to post by nenothtu


So you came on this thread to post ad hominen? Hmmm.....so do I get to play lets out the extremists game? I know, I know...if I play that game I will get labeled as a racist and get my hand slapped.

Originally posted by paraphi
To the OP.

From a Western cultural perspective, one problem with Islam is the treatment of women. Were any of the “thousands of Muslims” who gathered to condem the murder women, or were they uncounted?

REgards

I am a woman in Algeria, and women here are honored more then men. Another misconception. There is a reason for protecting women in places like this country. Its not all harams and nicabs!!!! Here you marry one woman, you live normal with equal rights, the women can work if they want, but the importance is not stressed, they can pursuing their own interests as money allows.

reply to post by ollncasino


I don't think you picked a very good example there, because right leaning Christians apparently share the same view

See. People have more in common than they think.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Well, to be honest I've not been through this entire thread yet, so I can't say if you've presented any empirical evidence here yet.

Nothing except all of the surveys I have linked to...

Originally posted by nenothtu
DHS wants us to point out extremists, so I'm pointing one out.

I hope you are on piece work.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by CottonwoodStormy

Secondly, you made these statistics appear impressive but you actually plagerised from one biased website for all these sources, good try!!!! www.thereligionofpeace.com...

He has plagiarized links?

How can he have plagiarized links to surveys by third parties?

That makes no sense.

That's called plagiarism if the original website from which he reported these sites from is not listed as the source!!!!

Originally posted by neformore

I don't think you picked a very good example there, because right leaning Christians apparently share the same view

Classic deflection again.

Don't point out that the majority of British Muslims oppose homosexuality because a few AMERICAN Christian crackpots do also?

Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance of homosexuality, says poll

Originally posted by CottonwoodStormy

That's called plagiarism if the original website from which he reported these sites from is not listed as the source!!!!]

Oh dear. Has he failed his thesis then?

On wait.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by neformore

I don't think you picked a very good example there, because right leaning Christians apparently share the same view

Classic deflection again.

Don't point out that the majority of British Muslims oppose homosexuality because a few AMERICAN Christian crackpots do also?

Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance of homosexuality, says poll

Are you kidding me???? Its all over the news the 1 million people in France protesting against same sex marriage, PLEASE!!!!

Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by nenothtu

 

So you came on this thread to post ad hominen? Hmmm.....so do I get to play lets out the extremists game? I know, I know...if I play that game I will get labeled as a racist and get my hand slapped.

edit on 26-5-2013 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)

Sure! Why not? It's what the other poster is doing as well - he's just doing it en masse, against an entire bloc of people, and I'm being a bit more focused.

I find it amusing that you seem to be upset that I'm pointing out an extremist, but it's ok if someone else points to your own pet extremists, and tars an entire population of non-extremists with the same brush. So, because of that, jump right in and let fly with your own extremist brush!

DHS already knows I'm an extremist of some sort, so that's no biggie. I see no real difference between a wahabbi blowing up an entire marketplace of innocent strangers and a poster trying to ruin an entire population of innocent strangers with "terrorist" bombs.

Destruction is destruction, and extremism is extremism. Meet it and deal with it, but leave the innocent alone.

reply to post by CottonwoodStormy


I actually got them from a facebook group, person didn't post the links. Don't think I have even heard of that site before you linked it.

Sorry teach....LOL