Sweden Muslim Riots, called a City of Fire

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


When you are invited to stay at someones home you do not tell them how to do things in their own home......or if you do you should get kicked out. Simple and easy.

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


So you deny that if the Swedish people make a statement of conversion to Allah, that their would not be peace? All of what I said is a fact. It may not be politically correct, but it is fact.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

Come back to Islam brother. Allah hakbah!

Gesundheit.

Never followed it, Never will join it.

I guess I am a lone wolf. I am proud to say that I don't really follow any political, racial or religious ideology.

As Popeye once said; "I yam who I yam."

I do have my beliefs, but they are always evolving. Quite often slowly, or not even at the moment.

reply to post by MidnightTide


If one guest whom had offended you and is disassociated by the other guests, do you throw them all out? If this is the way of life that civilisation progresses, then for sure, this site ATS would have closed down the servers and none - rational or haters, be allowed here.

reply to post by Siberbat


I deny your pathetic attempt at the insinuation that all muslims in sweden had demanded the swedes to swear to Allah, in order to have peace when that is not the case, as you had attempted to fool readers on ATS. Do not try such tactics here. ATS members are not all fools as you presumed.

Peace can only be achieved by the Rule of Law under the Swedish Constitution. Anyone, including you, if you happened to be a swede or on swedish soil, is subjected to such laws which covers sedition and incitement to violence.

For those who flout the rule of law - arrest and trial awaits.

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by MidnightTide

 

If one guest whom had offended you and is disassociated by the other guests, do you throw them all out? If this is the way of life that civilisation progresses, then for sure, this site ATS would have closed down the servers and none - rational or haters, be allowed here.

Again trying to minimize the threat......there is a core of extremism in Islam and until that community gets a handle on it, I say close the borders.

reply to post by TDawgRex


Your lone wolfness wont take you to Allah - nee naaa na na na!

Okay, oddball. So be it.
Muslims are the most down to earth people out there - you want wisdom - go to the Koran.

reply to post by MidnightTide


Say what you want, but end the anti-islam hatred. Not every muslim is a radical militant, but if you and your kind persists instead of finding dialogues and common ground, you will only drive them all towards militancy and radicalization, something which peaceful communities of ALL faith had been working so hard against, and needs no skinhead bullies to unravel the efforts and sacrifices made by the many from all sides for years, some whom even lost their lives to being suicide bombed, to end this scourge of terrorisim and blind hatred.

Evil comes in many forms - decievers, gloaters, sweet talkers and even sidled beside you as your friend in order to influence and corrupt one's mind. Thus always have your own mind - by searching for truths, more easily in our connected world today, not just from one source, but a variety of them to cross reference to determine your own judgement.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

- you want wisdom - go to the Koran.

edit on 26-5-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)

Oh...it's a great self help book. Right up there with the Bible and Torah!

I do not know what you were born with in your heart, nor do you with what is mine. With that, let us pass as friends.

reply to post by TDawgRex


So you are not coming to the Hug a radical muslim parade?
You are missing out, my friend.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

So you are not coming to the Hug a radical muslim parade?
You are missing out, my friend.

No more than I want to hug my Jehovah Witness Aunt.

And she's really a weirdo. Kinda creepy even. She makes your average fruitcake imam look like Obama. Which is not necessarily a good thing.

Im sure Swedlam will find a way to get everyone back to peace again

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


Actually, I have provided facts as to how Islam looks at how peace can be found from their perspective. You did not dispute the facts, you just didn't like them.

Do not try such tactics here.

Ok let's look at one's tactics. Shall we?

Resorting to an "ad hominem fallacy", as you just did to me, shows a weakness in your argument. If you can't defend the argument, attack the person. "Poisoning the well fallacy", by making a presumption which I never made, insinuating that I called the ATS readership "fools", adding comments which were never made. It's a tactic meant to discredit. Now who is making ATS fools? "Strawman fallacy", producing an agrument about a weaker truth then attacking it. I believe you said I should join the military and attack the militants if I feel so strongly about it. Having no idea who I am or my ideaology, you made an assumption that I wish for people to be dead through military action, or that I am anti-human. This has nothing to do with this incident.

Your right, ATS posters are not fools, they also can see through fallacious comments. You opinion is welcome, but when you attack members, your arguments become inadiquate and intellecually dishonest.

So, back to the discussion. provide a statement from an Imam who denounces the incident occuring in Sweden, or South London for that matter, and I will accept that. No matter what faith we are speaking of, the religious leaders need to be the guideing force to condem violence. I do presuppose that such comments will not be found. Now that's my opinion.

you know

just before these riots i watched this


makes you think that its organised in some way


i only watched the first part... a very deep insight...or research...or propaganda
a new documentary about muslim areas in sweden... by an undercover isreali...

its funny because the adults knew he was a spy, but the youngers stick up for him





personally i think its propaganda.... segregating them then calling it a no go zone tut tut
i heard the term "barbarian" a few times as well.... kinda nasty undertones

reply to post by thePharaoh


Thanks for video, its interesting .

Ok, first of all, I am a Swedish person

Second, the media coverage of this "riot" is all blown up out of proportion. The "riots" isnt that bad at all, sure, some cars, a police station, a school and a few window broken. I can assure you, if you live in stockholm you wouldn´t even notice the "riots", it´s in the suburbs. And even there it ain´t that big of a deal. Mostly some teenage groups running around in the suburbs causing some random destruction and having some fun with the police. That is the situation today!

It all started as you all know with the police shooting a man to death, a man who apperantly was wielding a machete according to the police that was at the scene. Yes, the man was muslim for you out there who is interested, and yes, some of the "rioters" are of the muslim religion, but you know what, there are christians too in this "riot" causing the car fires and what not.

You know why there is christians also? Becuase unlike to what some of you think, this isn´t a riot because of some religious muslim extremist streetgang. They are out there on the street showing they are effin mad, they are poor, they have no jobs and no future and our government isnt doing # about it. Not just immigrants, but all of the youth in sweden is having a hard time finding jobs, so you know what, no matter if you are white, black, brown, yellow or whatever, they are out there together showing that they are sick and tired of it. Politicans in Sweden speak about burned cars, destroyed windows and stonethrowing. What about burned dreams, destroyed childhood and politicians with a heart of stone?

The youth in the suburbs used the killing incident as a fuel for their fire, their anger.

What media report is one thing, what the reality is, if you lived here and talked to people who do live in the suburbs of stockholm, is something different.

Don´t be fooled in to believing this is about an immigration problem, or muslim problem, or extremist problem or what ever narrow thinking you can come up with, this is all about a dissapointed and forgotten and struggling generation that has had enough.

And maybe this wont change anything, and it will just calm down soon, and everything will go back to normal and the youth in the suburbs think they didnt achieve anything, but guess what, they did achive alot. In sweden there is ALOT of talk about the real problem I wrote here going on. Wheels are in motion. Lets hope for the best and keep up the good work youth´s of stockholm suburbs!

So, the answer is to destroy schools, vandelize houses, burn cars, and reak havok and chaos because they can't find a job? Because the socialist dream turned into a nightmare? Do harm to your neighbors because you feel something is owed to you? I'm sorry that doesn't hold water. How much support from the community do you think these rioters will have when they destroy thier own community. They are criminals. They chose the power of violence rather then the power of the people.

reply to post by Siberbat


Yes I think so and, partial know so. You wouldnt believe how much support they got here in sweden from all walks of life but the government.

I can see how and why you don´t agree with me and the youths in the suburbs, but this "riot" started in "the heat of the moment" and wasn´t planned, they acted directly and, I agree, they made som bad choices. But the effect it has gotten surpass the few cars and property they have destroyed. Colleteral damage might be the word I´m looking for here?

www.youtube.com...

It's been stated, by mainstream Muslim leaders, that they ARE on a quest to dominate the world. There are just as many non-muslims that find excuses for various actions by the Muslim world, while condemning those that point out the obvious.

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." ~Winston Churchill

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by FreedomEntered

 

Yep, I commented in that thread. I think it's going to be a "Hot" summer for Europe. All the indicators are there.

From Greece to Sweden, there are going to be plenty of riots.

Of course, once winter arrives, it usually calms down again.

Great. I'm going to England for 10 days in July on holiday. I plan to stay to the country, out of the big cities for the most part. Should be fine.