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Originally posted by RAY1990
I do have a serious question for you though,
After we send all the muslims (a lot british born muslims) to some other country because they are all extreme, will you be saying the same thing about those who hail from the republic of Ireland?
• 57% of young Irish Muslims (under 26) believe Ireland should become an Islamic State.
• 59% of Irish Muslims disagree that "people in Ireland should be free to say whatever they want, even if it offends other people's religious beliefs". 35% agree.
• 37% of Irish Muslims would like Ireland to be governed as an Islamic state. 50% said they would not.
Irish Independent
Shaheed Satardien, a dissident Imam who blew the whistle on those seeking to aggressively spread a version of Islam in Ireland that brooks no accommodation with Western values.
He has since been ostracised and demonised by the Muslim establishment. They have questioned his credentials to preach and claim he speaks for no one.
Shaheed refuses to be silenced.
Irish Independent
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
I think a lot has to do with who funds the Mosques and Madrassah schools in the UK. I believe there is a large Saudi influence, that is preaching a fundamentalist approach to Islam.
There also seems to be an attempt by the more extreme elements to prey on vulnerable young Brits.
I think that is very true.
Apparently over a decade ago, the Saudis had already spent $87 billion building Mosques in the West. The problem is, the Saudis are Wahhbis, the hardcore Muslims.
National Review
Almost all Muslim terrorists (if not all) are Wahhabi or Salafi (which is very similar).
That nice new mosque near where you live? The money almost certainly came from Saudi radicals intent on spreading the most intolerant and violent form of Islam in the West.
Safa writes that the Saudis have spent “$87 billion since 1973 to spread Islam throughout the United States and the Western hemisphere.”
Elsewhere in the world, it is believed that Saudi Arabia finances some 85-percent of the world’s mosques, where the vitriolic and violent Wahabbist interpretation of Islam is taught.
National Review
Originally posted by gladtobehere
People like you wont even admit the long standing tradition of your nation's imperialism. Just two years ago, your government attacked yet another so called "Muslim" nation, Libya.
Muslim Ummah absolutely refers to the unity of Muslims all over the world.
It is a communal word which divides people into two classes: one of them is Muslim and the other is non Muslim.
Link
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
Yup i find it incredibly difficult to debate with anyone who says that the blame for violent Islamic extremism falls on the Islamic faith itself. It implies that all Muslims are the problem
Its just such a ignorant and bigoted statement that i can’t converse meaningfully with a person who has such views.
• Pronounced death for leaving Islam, Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Book 83 Volume 9, Number 17
• Told followers that Jihad was the second highest thing after believing in Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25
• Stated he would fight until everyone admitted their was only one god, Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24
• Burnt people for not praying Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 11, Verse 626
• Forced non Muslims to be humbled, submit to Islam and pay jizyah tax.Koran Book 9 Verse 29
• At Kheibar in 628 C.E., the Muslim army was 2,000 combatants.
• When Muhammad mounted his assault on Mecca (630 C.E.) he did so with 10,000 men.
• And at the Battle of Hunayn a few months later the army numbered 12,000.
Source: Islamic Imperialism: A History by Karsh, E. (2007)
Originally posted by RAY1990
I was aiming at Irish Republican Army terrorist attacks here in the UK... those attackers were predominantly christian...
Originally posted by RAY1990
Fact is though we are all immigrants on these isles, genetically all except the Welsh and Irish bloodlines originate from elsewhere simply because they didn't intergrate with the waves of foriegners, that in time called this place home. Britain has never changed in that sense and it never will.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
Islam is in need of restructuring, much as Christianity did and continues to do, but it must come from within. Religion is a form of power and control and as long as the various imams and mullahs interpret the Koran to their liking, it’s not going to change.
Until Islam reforms, it’s going to be a vicious circle. And the few will continue to make the many look, and possibly act, bad.
Originally posted by RAY1990
reply to post by ollncasino
We all need to tackle extremism in all of it's forms and we can only do that together as a whole society, otherwise extremists will always be present here in some way or form.
edit on 26-5-2013 by RAY1990 because: bad spelling
Just as people say that the U.S. cannot continue to run on a 200+ year old document (something I would argue as it has that amendments thing. :up
I would argue that the WORLD cannot run on a 7th Century document. Which by the way, cannot be changed according to it's own teachings.
Originally posted by RAY1990
Personally I'd rather they would not use it by the word and a way to live life by a book,
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
Heloooo Op! We are in their countries making war. Think this might have just a tiny bit of a reason to do with it.