God forgive your sins, why do you have to confess them to a Priest?

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
the roman catholic style of confession was instigated as a means of
collecting information and also to use to blackmail when desired.

your screen name says it all with regards to this comment.
the fact that you got four stars indicates that the haters
with resentments towards religion are right here with you.

the latin word for feel is sentaire.

re sentaire = to re feel

resentment is re-feeling a feeling from yesterday, yesteryear, yestercentury over and over and over again in the here and now.
feelings are born with one goal -- to be expressed. if that does not happen the feeling is represses or supressed.

well that does not matter to the feeling because it is going to dictate your behavior anyway.

feelings: either talk them out or act them out.

The reason is because the spoken word can be a more clear means of communication to the trinity. A meaningful well thought out oral confession is the best way. There is no requirement right now for any flesh to hear. The problem is that many priest are over come with sin right now and your confession can be heard by the ones that rule over the lost priest or even relayed to them resulting in unnecessary torment and your confession going to the wrong place. It is not wise for the blind to lead.

reply to post by colbe

posted the verse in the OP. Jesus imparted the Holy Spirit to the Apostles, God breathed on them, giving
them the power to forgive sins. God's plan. They were the first New Covenant ministerial priests. Read John 20:23. Do not skip over or ignore that verse, thinking you don't have to follow the plan.

That did not make the Apostles priests, nor did it begin any sort of "clergy". All of us can forgive eachothers sins, thats what we're supposed to do. You're inserting your own opinion into scripture, and you're not the first person to do so. Your entire religion is based on the opinions of men, not what the scripture says.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


The millennial church will be very similar to the structure of the rcc. It was created for a reason and that was to fill the gap between the spiritual world and the physical. It has failed but all churches will be restored as one.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
the roman catholic style of confession was instigated as a means of
collecting information and also to use to blackmail when desired.

It was a method to blackmail the subjects (serfs or the wealthly) into letting the CLEARgy know who could be squeezed into submission, paying tithes, building cathedrals or or or let the dream unfold into an unknown but fruitful fruition (the object is to CONQUER or MASTER Gain the human SOUL, OWN IT SO TO SPEAK) . Its a WIN WIN. In retrospect very Satanic in nature.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

The millennial church will be very similar to the structure of the rcc. It was created for a reason and that was to fill the gap between the spiritual world and the physical. It has failed but all churches will be restored as one.

I hope not, there are some out there that DOUST WILL PROTEST. No gaps not heralding of misogynist Gkods. No division between mind, body, spirit. All Will Be Known ultimately no church can stand the truth of its progenitor, because IT is the only ruler and AS one mighty creature/CREATOR of you and your ridiculous actions has run out of patience for all of you. No prayers are required or those we will have bothered to listen to are far too late (entreaties). No Mercy, NO FOUL. The Human did this to itself; sufficient warnings given; not us. FOOLS.

Well in short because the catholic church wanted more
power than most of the other denominations of christianity,
they wanted to rule countries not just control a portion of
the populace. its all about control in the end. they all want
it in some way, some more than others. after all what is
religion if not the attempt to control the uncontrollable,
what happens to you when you die.

reply to post by colbe

Because confession is good for the soul ! ( I'm being flippant ! )

The Catholic church has thrived on the guilt, shame and control, and even abuse of its followers for far too long.

The new Pope either needs to get a grip, and own up to all the wrongdoing the Catholic church has perpetrated on its people, and take the Church in a new direction, from the top down, a fresh start, not just more of the same...

And being an atheist, this is just the view of an outsider....

reply to post by colbe


How about you just stop sinning like Jesus said? Then we can just love one another.

I was gone last evening. I appreciate everyone's reply. God is touching us all, whether we agree or not.

A few comments, I can't reply to everyone but can say a couple of things. The objection saying it is about "control", how is that? No one controls anyone, we all have free will deciding what we believe or not.

What is the deal on the money making comments. No one makes any money from the Sacrament of Confession.

And do you know why there are magnificent cathedrals worldwide, built throughout 2000 years of Christianity?
Man's desire is to give God his best.

And...very important...from my heart, do not ever feel like an OUTSIDER. Jesus established one faith, so there is one Church. Most people follow the example of their parents in their faith choice. You didn't personally choose to revolt from the faith, you did not know. Some parents have no faith through no fault of their own, they passed on their no faith.

This period of history is very, very special. Because the faith is so weak, so denied, God is going to act, to
show the entire world the true faith is Roman Catholicism. When, when is this going to happen? Over fifty
years ago, the main seer at Garabandal heard, "when the world is at it's worst and Communism comes again."

God forgive your sins, why do you have to confess them to a Priest?

couse the priest need that personal info to regulate his flock....
hiearchy in the roman church to controle the human

reply to post by colbe


James 5: 16 goes like this,
So admit your sins to each other, and pray for each other so that you will be healed. Prayers offered by those who have God's approval are effective.

I find it hard to believe that Catholic priests have Gods approval. Especially if we follow Mathew 7:16

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

What fruit has come to bare from Catholic priests, ever ? There for confess to each other and pray for each other.

The Roman Catholic Church bases their practice of confession to a priest primarily on Catholic tradition. Catholic do point to John 20:23, “If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." From this verse, Catholics claim that God gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins, and that authority was passed on to the successors of the apostles, i.e., the bishops and priests of the Roman Catholic Church. There are several problems with this interpretation. (1) John 20:23 nowhere mentions confession of sin. (2) John 20:23 nowhere promises, or even hints, that the authority to forgive sins would be passed on to the successors of the apostles. Jesus’ promise was specifically directed to the apostles. (3) The New Testament nowhere states that the apostles would even have successors to their apostolic authority. Similarly, Catholics point to Matthew 16:19 and 18:18 (binding and loosing) as evidence for the Catholic Church’s authority to forgive sins. The same three above points apply equally to these Scriptures.

Again, the concept of confession of sin to a priest is nowhere taught in Scripture. We are to confess our sins to God (1 John 1:9). As New Covenant believers, we do not need mediators between us and God. We can go to God directly because of Jesus’ sacrifice for us. First Timothy 2:5 says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”

reply to post by meggiddo2012


Right ! Jesus Christ is the only one who has Gods approval.
So we confess our sins before God and men. Then pray for
each other thru Christ. Always thru Christ.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


When King David repented, he went to God's chosen holy man at the time and confessed. He didn't HAVE to in order to get God's forgiveness ... but he did as a sign of humility and repentance. Something to keep in mind.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, if a Priest were not required what would they have to do with themselves? After all, it's that 10% tithe fee I think it's really all about.

They're not humans...

They're Phones to God!

AT&T has finally gotten to big for its britches.

I've always had a problem with middlemen.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, if a Priest were not required what would they have to do with themselves? After all, it's that 10% tithe fee I think it's really all about. .

Catholics do not have a tithe fee ... it's some of the protestants that have that required 10% thing. Catholic have no such rule. And going to Confession costs nothing. There are no slots to stick money in at the confessional .. that's a Jack Chickism ... totally false.

Parish confessionals are usually open for about an hour a week. So it doesn't take up that much time. During the rest of the time priests are saying mass, praying, visiting people in nursing homes and hospitals, counseling, doing weddings and funerals ... and the usual things that people do like eat, sleep, read books, exercise.

reply to post by colbe

You hear the priest's prayer of absolution, you are assured your sins are forgiven.

One thing is for sure, Colbe, a priest is not able to absolve you or assure you that your sin is forgiven.

The only way it is absolved is through a heart felt prayer to God, and hopefully, it's not through some memorized prayer given to you by a church or a priest.

If it makes you feel better to confess your sins in front of a priest, so be it, but know that they are not able to forgive you.

Jesus may have given his disciples the ability to forgive sins when he was alive, but much like performing miracles, they stopped after his death. Priests today aren't hand picked by Jesus, so you may want to have your own little heart felt prayer session with God before or after consulting a priest. That's the only way to be sure you are forgiven.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

When King David repented, he went to God's chosen holy man at the time and confessed. He didn't HAVE to in order to get God's forgiveness ... but he did as a sign of humility and repentance. Something to keep in mind.

Which as i said again, is what Christ's crucifiction was for. No more Veil, you can commune directly with him via prayer. David was respecting the system that God had put in place and now a new system had been instituted. The system of no more Veil.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by colbe

 

James 5: 16 goes like this,
So admit your sins to each other, and pray for each other so that you will be healed. Prayers offered by those who have God's approval are effective.

I find it hard to believe that Catholic priests have Gods approval. Especially if we follow Mathew 7:16

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

What fruit has come to bare from Catholic priests, ever ? There for confess to each other and pray for each other.

I like this one, seems to strike true to the heart.

Matthew 6:7

7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.