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If you cant explain it, you are literally guessing whether an event is a coincidence, magic or just an illusion of either.
Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by Revolution9
Here is one of the major flaws in religion.
Most think that Science is evil.
When Science is just the study of nature.
However what they don't realize is that eventually Science will find and prove that God exists.
It's just a matter of time.
Originally posted by Revolution9
Originally posted by tridentblue
reply to post by Revolution9
So, by studying science we can become closer to God? I like that idea a lot.
Yes, truely! Many scientists have found God through Science. It is very BIG my friend. Wow!
Originally posted by winofiend
I know if I had the choice to jump into some code I'd written that involved dudes murdering each other and war and death and poverty and crime and sickness and misery and stuff, I wouldn't go "Hey guys, come to my facebook and like my crucifixion. I'll tell admin you're top blokes and we can go to heaven aye? Hows about it?" and then have myself killed on purpose to allow the pixels to enter into the video card.
No, I'd be minecrafting towers of safety and giving redstone to everyone.
Jesus sounds like a prick.
all that processing power and all he did was fish and bread. oh and wine.
nah, he couldn't code to save his life. Literally.
Originally posted by Biigs
What happens if Jesus turns up, does something INCREDIBLE in front of your eyes like flashes forward 50 feet grabs an apple from a tree, waves to you and flashes back to you and hands you the apple. Amazing display of Gods power right?
...Then years later a scientist finds how to make a matter transporter and recreates the same amazing feat, did Jesus use his "hacking" of the universe to do it, or did he just use the same method as the scientist?
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Originally posted by Revolution9
Originally posted by tridentblue
reply to post by Revolution9
So, by studying science we can become closer to God? I like that idea a lot.
Yes, truely! Many scientists have found God through Science. It is very BIG my friend. Wow!
Case in point. Head of the Genome Project.
Originally posted by Biigs
Originally posted by Biigs
What happens if Jesus turns up, does something INCREDIBLE in front of your eyes like flashes forward 50 feet grabs an apple from a tree, waves to you and flashes back to you and hands you the apple. Amazing display of Gods power right?
...Then years later a scientist finds how to make a matter transporter and recreates the same amazing feat, did Jesus use his "hacking" of the universe to do it, or did he just use the same method as the scientist?
I should also add that, any feat performed now however insanely amazing and how it ignores rules we know of currently - is instantly a sham the day man works out how to do it too?
I saw my dad pull his thumb off when i was 3 and thought he was magic, i couldnt explain it and i was very excited, now i know he was just fooling me with an illusion, does that make me hate him for it now, sure its not funny as it was then but he wouldnt attempt that trick for the first time on a man of my years because it wouldn't "work".
If your faith is weak enough you must rely on defining magical, mystical events to back you up, sounds like you are concentrating on the wrong things in your faith to begin with.
Originally posted by darkbake
reply to post by tridentblue
Yes, that is the basic idea. The God the OP is talking about is the God of Spinoza and Einstein, not the false God worshiped by many Christians that is used as an excuse for hatred, destruction and killing.
Originally posted by Revolution9
Originally posted by winofiend
I know if I had the choice to jump into some code I'd written that involved dudes murdering each other and war and death and poverty and crime and sickness and misery and stuff, I wouldn't go "Hey guys, come to my facebook and like my crucifixion. I'll tell admin you're top blokes and we can go to heaven aye? Hows about it?" and then have myself killed on purpose to allow the pixels to enter into the video card.
No, I'd be minecrafting towers of safety and giving redstone to everyone.
Jesus sounds like a prick.
all that processing power and all he did was fish and bread. oh and wine.
nah, he couldn't code to save his life. Literally.
That is probably not the best way to please The Master Programmer.
To you, Jesus is a prick right now because that is how you perceive Him. That might change one day?
To me you are just another guy. GOD forgives! He forgave Moses for killing the Egyptian and forgave St, Paul for persecuting Christians.
Don't worry, mate! What's done is done. Just keep going forward. That is all any of us can do. I aint your enemy and I even gave you a star because atleast you felt passionately enough to bother writing here. Cool as!
Between you and me I aint been no saint either!
Originally posted by Kharron
5% of scientists are religious. Scientists have no explanation why this number is so high.
Although in USA, we sadly have a slightly higher number - 7%. This is more easily explained.
Originally posted by Revolution9
As a guy who believes as Jesus Christ did about the nature of the Universe I do think the physicists are onto something.
Originally posted by winofiend
Originally posted by Revolution9
Originally posted by winofiend
I know if I had the choice to jump into some code I'd written that involved dudes murdering each other and war and death and poverty and crime and sickness and misery and stuff, I wouldn't go "Hey guys, come to my facebook and like my crucifixion. I'll tell admin you're top blokes and we can go to heaven aye? Hows about it?" and then have myself killed on purpose to allow the pixels to enter into the video card.
No, I'd be minecrafting towers of safety and giving redstone to everyone.
Jesus sounds like a prick.
all that processing power and all he did was fish and bread. oh and wine.
nah, he couldn't code to save his life. Literally.
That is probably not the best way to please The Master Programmer.
I read that wrong, haha. Oh if god is so mad bro he can 404 me then. deary me, is he still using win3.11 and internet explorer?
To you, Jesus is a prick right now because that is how you perceive Him. That might change one day?
Why would it? He supposedly came to earth, saw the suffering, saw the blood shed in his fathers name, saw that humans were sinners and sinful, and instead of waving his magic wand and creating paradise, he let the humans kill him, and said "Forgive them..." as he left them to suffer in their filth for the next 2000 years.
Why would I want to praise someone who is supposed to have magical powers, the gift to create life, or take it, and how can see that all around him is suffering, and who walks away from it saying "Love me and I'll make it happen after you die."
Why would I want to give any credit to such a charlatan? A schemer. A scammer.
I don't perceive 'him' - I've read about him in this book humans wrote, called the bible. It proves he was a prick, he even wouldn't help a mother and her starving child as they were not of his 'people'..
To me you are just another guy. GOD forgives! He forgave Moses for killing the Egyptian and forgave St, Paul for persecuting Christians.
Don't worry, mate! What's done is done. Just keep going forward. That is all any of us can do. I aint your enemy and I even gave you a star because atleast you felt passionately enough to bother writing here. Cool as!
Between you and me I aint been no saint either!
We're all just 'another guy'. or gal. That's all we are. How do you know god forgives?
Why are we suffering eternal life on earth if we don't submit our love to this god? How is that forgiveness? How is that love or being fatherly?
No, god is not forgiving. If he exists, he is malevolent and sinister.
Apart from forgiving fictional characters in a book of contradiction, who has god forgiven? hitler? obama? gillard?
Ron the thug up the road who used to beat up hippies? Did got forgive him? How do you know?
God gives ponies to little baby angels too. We just have to have faith that he does.
edit on 22-5-2013 by winofiend because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kody27
Originally posted by Revolution9
As a guy who believes as Jesus Christ did about the nature of the Universe I do think the physicists are onto something.
Yeah I stopped reading/taking-anything-you-said-seriously riiiiiiiiight about here ^
Originally posted by Revolution9
Originally posted by Kody27
Originally posted by Revolution9
As a guy who believes as Jesus Christ did about the nature of the Universe I do think the physicists are onto something.
Yeah I stopped reading/taking-anything-you-said-seriously riiiiiiiiight about here ^
What an ignorant man you are to write a one liner like that. Why bother coming here. Answer me?
How can you claim to have any gifts of insight or knowledge to offer any other human being when you act so ignorantly? Tell me please...