With free money, why would anyone work in America?

Now for an R-rated public service announcement on how to flourish under Obamunism, at least until our socialist rulers run out of other people’s money: EBT = Electronic Benefits Transfer = free money from the nearly bankrupt federal government. The cards are more convenient than food stamps, and available in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and of course Puerto Rico.

It’s Free, Swipe Your EBT





I know the new thread rules. I'm supposed to post my opinion and whatnot but I only have a question...

IS THIS FOR REAL?

If the answer is yes, then my opinion is..... That explains it... If it's true then we are getting what we deserve.

Yes, it is for real. This is what the 47% is all about.

Damn...how does one hop aboard this gravy train?

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Yes, it is for real. This is what the 47% is all about.

Then we're in better than we should.

reply to post by whatsecret


Yes EBTs are real. Although, there are upsides to the program it may not be as sinister as some would lead you to believe.

You can check it out here;

www.fns.usda.gov...

It's my understanding that EBT, in itself, is not an entitlement program but rather it's an alternative means by which to distribute benefits from various federal assistance programs. This doesn't change what it takes to qualify for a benefit, only the way they receive the money.

On the other, if money were free, the only reason I could see people wanting to work would be if that work was something they really love doing. Huh, what a novel idea.

sigh.....I shake my head at this.

[rant start] Right off the bat I had an ebt card for six months when I didnt have job and it put food on my table and with out it I really would have gone hungry. This was about two years ago. Once I got a job I went to the office and had them cancel it because thats how its supposed to work. I was raised that way, welfare was a dirty word unless you needed it. If you scammed the system you were a crook.

I have however heard of ( and known one or two) people having all forms of federal and state assistance while working under the table jobs and just bank rolling. It makes me cringe, when I think of all the people on assistance, not because they are on it. I understand some people generally need help and thats cool I was there in my life. But mostly for the fact that when I was on it there was no push for me to get a job by DHS. I did it on my own. I know people who have there cards for a while and dont care about improving their situation. I believe in safety nets but not like this. I know there are some restriction on the card (at least there used to be) ,but business's love money so they look for them loop holes Talk about a starting point for economic reform. [rant over]

All kidding aside, the folks in my city that I've seen using an EBT card for purchases are not in an enviable position. I mean, I do not say to myself, "I wish I could live their lifestyle". They may be getting "free" money, but it doesn't seem like they're getting a whole lot of it.

reply to post by BobM88


Lose your job claim your homeless and your in like flynn. I hate putting it that way but its true.

Take a trip to the ghetto and see how these people are living. Then complain about everything you heard from your masters.

Damn those people, how dare they ask for food?! *shakes fist*

Since I have everything I need, I'm going to assume everyone else does also, isn't that how it works?

In all seriousness though, our social assistance programs are far weaker than those in other countries that are now considered better places to live in than here. The only difference is that they think their fellow neighbor deserves to live and sustain their life on food, whereas we seem to have more folks who think being an American means nothing more than calling yourself a patriot, even when you hate your own fellow citizens.

Are there those who milk the system - undoubtedly! Are there those who bankrupted us all and ruined our country and took off with all the money we would ever need? Also yes. But we should focus on the poor, right? They're the ones who got us here.

Americans are the most unpatriotic crowd of patriots I've ever come across in my travels.

reply to post by CitizenJack


While I agree with everything you said, I truly believe that those who would cheat the system are stealing from us all and should be prosecuted for doing so without delay.

On the other hand, I don't see how the EBT could be the cause of the fraud you referred to and I don't believe that we should punish those who honestly need the help because of the bad deeds of those who would cheat the system.

IMO, the only viable answer to the problem is strict enforcement of the rules and the funding to carry out said enforcement. Secondly, punishment must include jail time, especially for those who are defrauding the system on a mass scale or in the name of others.

I truly believe that in the long run, we'll save money over what's being lost now to cheats while preserving the safety net for those who are down on their luck.

Originally posted by theconspirator
Take a trip to the ghetto and see how these people are living. Then complain about everything you heard from your masters.

I have seen the ghetto and the ghetto fabulous with big screen TV's and Escalades parked by the entrance.

I can understand those that need ebt to survive, but those that abuse the program probably wouldn't be worth a flip as employees.

Some of them, if it wasn't for the ebt program, would likely end up in prison. By "them" i mean the abusers, if they ended up in prison it would be a larger expense on the tax payer.


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reply to post by Flatfish


I dont think we should do away with it either, as I stated those six months were some of the hardest of my life. And I am grateful that my tax dollars and yours helped me out ( thank you everyone by the way).

The thing I meant by fraud and changing the system were that its way to loose right now. If I didnt go out and get a job and cancel my EBT card my self there would have been no pressure on me by DHS. There was no follow up to see if I was trying to get a job. I truely understand that people need help, what I posted above was just a rant without to much detail on how I really felt.

There are crooks everywhere from wallstreet to mainstreet . They all piss me off, because alot of people are honest, the bad ones just ruin it for everyone.

Basic 'Fuzzy Logic' will tell you that this situation is not A or B, but A and B in some percentage...

EBT card-holders are neither all scammers, nor all homeless, starving waifs roaming the countryside.

I pay my damned taxes, and don't mind if 80% of the EBT-ers are already stuffed to the gills with caviar and fried Faberge-egg sammichez; as long as 2 in 10 aren't suffering basic malnutrition in one of the richest countries in the world.

The same fuzzy logic I blathered about in my opening diatribe above also shows that every one of your opinions is correct, simultaneously; though to varying degrees.

Excellent question, btw... and, honestly: yes, people will do nothing for free money. That should in no way effect the percieved necessity of a traceable,paperless capital exchange device, that can be de-activated with a keystroke over that of stackable, transferrable, paper monopoly money for crack dealers to stash in shoe boxes.

(steps off of soapbox)

Originally posted by EzekielsWheel

I pay my damned taxes, and don't mind if 80% of the EBT-ers are already stuffed to the gills with caviar and fried Faberge-egg sammichez; as long as 2 in 10 aren't suffering basic malnutrition in one of the richest countries in the world.

Wow thats great hearing somebody say that, I'm sure most people would say they agree with your position (im included in that because I do ) but to come out and say it.... hats off to you brother

reply to post by Kharron

Damn those people, how dare they ask for food?! *shakes fist*

It seems like you think the tax payers should support the children of people who can't afford to have children but do anyway... And not one or two but four and five in many cases.

Let me guess, you think the solution for this issue is free birth control?

I must be an evil right wing nut for thinking that people should have children only when they can afford to at least feed them (like me), and use the best free birth control called pull it out in time.

In all seriousness though, our social assistance programs are far weaker than those in other countries that are now considered better places to live in than here

If this is true then whats up with all the legal and illegal immigrants trying to come here?

The only difference is that they think their fellow neighbor deserves to live and sustain their life on food, whereas we seem to have more folks who think being an American means nothing more than calling yourself a patriot, even when you hate your own fellow citizens.

Americans are very generous when it comes to donating money VOLUNTARILY, but the federal government do not give us a choice. Believe it or not we have a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck, working multiple jobs just to put food on their table, but uncle Sam don't really give a $hit and take the taxes out of their checks to help out a fellow neighbor to feed their multiple kids.

Doesn't seem to be fair to me.

But we should focus on the poor, right? They're the ones who got us here.

Focus on the poor who is unable to support themselves... Focus on the ones who wants to get out of the projects, not the ones who is trying to get into the project and have multiple kids without having the means to support them.

Americans are the most unpatriotic crowd of patriots I've ever come across in my travels.

We still have one right that wasn't taken away for our safety... It's the right to choose where we want to live. Know what I'm saying?

After watching about half of the second video, I speechless. I don't believe this was a satirical piece.

What's going to happen when the gravy train ends? I do believe this will happen sooner than later.

Originally posted by Q33323
After watching about half of the second video, I speechless. I don't believe this was a satirical piece.

What's going to happen when the gravy train ends? I do believe this will happen sooner than later.

I also think it will end one way or another, and then the people who really can't support themselves would have a much larger problem than they have now.

reply to post by whatsecret


Yeah, that is the sad part. Those that really need it will be the ones most hurt when it does.