Mayan Nohmul Pyramid In Belize Destroyed By Bulldozer

Absolutely no landowner would destroy a real pyramid or "temple" on their property for road material. No one is that stupid. An actual pyramid or temple would be worth many thousands of dollars

However, there are obviously plenty of people too ignorant to understand that a pile of caliche is not a pyramid or a temple--no matter where it is found.

Go to any big ranch in south Texas and they will have big mounds of the same stuff which they use to build ranch roads. Who put those piles there?? The Ranchers men.

Who put those piles in Belize? (and those are layers of caliche, not bricks) Don't know or care. The few broken pottery shards they are showing are pretty much nothing of value, and may have been tossed into the caliche as trash.

Did the ancient Mayans use caliche in their court-yards, or paths--probably. But even if mayans put it there, it is still just unused road building material, not any kind of artifact.

reply to post by LeLeu


according to the doctor it is 2250 years old.
250 years BC thet is BEFORE CHRIST
plus 2013 years AD equals 2250 + 13.

My calculations based on the expert doctor place the age at 2263 not 3000+.

accurate facts do more that exaggerated lies and misinformation.

reply to post by Silcone Synapse


he would probably have to
build a road so people could
drive over his property to get
to the pile of DIRT.

Wow, it's such a shame that this very old structure is getting destroyed.
I dont understand you guys who are saying that it is'nt a structure?
There is clear evidence that it is an ancient structure, so where is your evidence that it is not?
I have'nt seen any of you put up any evidence that this is not a structure of some kind.
Another member has pointed out that the director of archaeology in belize says it is very important site and they gave a good source too.
Yet some of you ignore this and still claim it is nothing but a pile of dirt, so again where is your evidence apart from your own rambeling.

reply to post by wiser3


You make me giggle a little inside. I can just see it no a few thousand years from now someone bemoaning the fate of my Yoda collection thinking it had some deep religious significance beyond me simply liking Yoda. I can see some charlatans selling book after book on the Yoda doomsday prophecy while protestors try to stop the bulldozers from tearing down or excavating the remains of my Temple of Yoda.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I don't care if it gets torn down. If the structure is on private land the owner can do as he/she wants with it.

Not when its an historical monument owned by all, and that is the case. Private ownership doesnt extend to that at all.

It is obvious that whatever was inside was already plundered, not officially known. But the worlds mismanagement team never leaves anything behind, they have it all. And I can't wait for them to face justice one day.

They are pitiful beyond.

This is enormously tragic, for it takes away knowledge that belongs to everyone and true history. Records probably contained within and possibly hidden sciences.

Wow, this is a very sad day for mankind. I can barely believe that people would choose to tear down a site over 2300 years for it's gravel rather than leave it there for all to see, in it's beauty, such history so much to learn still and now a pile of rubbles.

Sad day indeed.


Im not much for curses but I hope one is placed on the sob's who okayed this and the one's who followed through with it. May their skin rot off until they are nothing but a pile of trash themselves.

So i'm to believe that you cannot find rocks suitable for a road project in the country, anywhere except an ancient mayan pyramid? sheesh...that road better connect some long lost isolated village to the rest of the world or this is a complete and utter breakdown in common sense and civility.

Originally posted by MuzzleBreak
Yup.
Pyramids and temples were built of rock.
This is a mound of caliche.

nope..wrong

the old pyramids and temples THAT HAVE LASTED... are the rock ones

the older mud/reed buildngs would have dissapeard over time

Wait for them to finish building their new buildings, then send a team of bulldozers to smash the crap out of it all.

That will be a nice piece of karma.

Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I don't care if it gets torn down. If the structure is on private land the owner can do as he/she wants with it.

Not when its an historical monument owned by all, and that is the case. Private ownership doesnt extend to that at all.

Owned by all? Did I miss something here, is Belize a Socialist/Communist state?

Edit: In the ABC News article in the OP it said this structure sat in the middle of a "privately owned sugarcane field".

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
What a callous and selfish act.
Most countries take great care to preserve their historical monuments.
Congratulations to the construction company. They just destroyed a piece of their own country's heritage.

Hopefully, the government and the concerned authorities would deal with them seriously.

You think the government cares? it only cares about money. If they did care they would stopped it before the Bulldozer destroyed it.

Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by LeLeu

 

according to the doctor it is 2250 years old.
250 years BC thet is BEFORE CHRIST
plus 2013 years AD equals 2250 + 13.

My calculations based on the expert doctor place the age at 2263 not 3000+.

accurate facts do more that exaggerated lies and misinformation.

Yes you are right, and the same man also states very clearly that it is a historical site of significance.
If you are going to quote the doctor then you need to accept that fact, yes?
As another member has already said, you need to provide some evidence that it is not a building.
Until you can prove otherwise your arguement is just a baseless personal opinion that does'nt mean diddly squat.
So can you please share with us your sources confirming that it is a mere dirt pile.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
What a callous and selfish act.
Most countries take great care to preserve their historical monuments.
Congratulations to the construction company. They just destroyed a piece of their own country's heritage.

Hopefully, the government and the concerned authorities would deal with them seriously.

You think the government cares?

it only cares about money. If they did care they would stopped it before the Bulldozer destroyed it.

Your right, but I think alot of corruption goes on.
On page one I posted, It is now being reported that the company responsible is D-Mar Construction, a company owned by the UDP politician Denny Grijalva.

call one of these government officials in BELIZE
and see if they care if a pile of dirt is leveled.

it is their country, their problem.

and i apologize if anyone fron Belize is offended by this.



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and it is not a bulldozer it is an excavator.

reply to post by masta12d


Sorry to say this but it was on PRIVATE property. They have the right to bulldoze it if it wasn't protected land. We can't stop the progress of infrastructure for every pile of dirt that is ancient. The land you are standing on now is technically millions of years old.

reply to post by LeLeu


Francisco Estrada-Belli, a professor of anthropology at Tulane University, said "I don't think I am exaggerating if I say that every day a Maya mound is being destroyed for construction in one of the countries where the Maya lived."


if a mound is being destroyed every day, there are already six more of these mounde have been destroyed since this particular one.