The Tower of..... Bible?

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


John 1
King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.

11 He came unto His own, and His own received Him not.

12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

In the beginning was GOD
He had thoughts (the) WORDs
He spoke the words with breath (SPIRIT)

Inspired = full of the SPIRIT

The WORD of GOD is written in the Bible
The WORD became flesh JESUS CHRIST
The WORD was cricufied and died.

The last Sunday of LENT is Pentacost Sunday
Where Jesus as promised sent the HOLY SPIRIT
to fill the disciples with the SPIRIT OF GOD so they could speek the WORD OF GOD
to all nations and peoples. (The opposite of the tower of BABEL)

Three persons and one GOD
GOD + HIS WORD + HIS HOLY SPIRIT (the breath that carries GODS WORD) = TRINITY.

Be cautious about crucifying (ridicule, derision, leading others astray) the WORD of GOD within your own heart.

reply to post by slugger9787


Don't be afraid to find something new.

Jesus is the light in Genesis, The Holy Spirit is also known as the Spirit of Love. Mary became pregnant by the (Holy Spirit, Spirit of Love) and thus gave birth to the Body Jesus, who is the Son of God, the light of this world. The firstborn amongst all creation, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Love.

The Light, The Son, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Love, Jesus Christ, Emanuel, Prince of Peace (These are all one in the same. Jesus Christ claimed he was the spirit of love and through him and for him all things were created. But even Jesus said that he was subject to the Father. Who we know is like the son, because we accept his testimony.

The Father = 1, Jesus The Holy/Love Spirit = 1. 1+1 = 2 We can become like Jesus (The Holy Spirit, the spirit of love) but we will always be subject to the father who loves us.

Matthew 1:18 (NLT)
"This is how Jesus the Messiah was born. His mother, Mary, was engaged to be married to Joseph. But before the marriage took place, while she was still a virgin, she became pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit."

reply to post by slugger9787


The "word of god" brought on the Inquisitions and Crusades, it also brought on the killing of thousands of pagans when it was legalized. The bible is far from being the word of god, it is deception at the highest level possible.

You've been lied to and can't and refuse to try to see it, that is what deception is all about. This world is not godly, look at the state it's in, it's more corrupt today than it has ever been before. If you think TPTB would really allow the truth to spread like with the bible, you are ignorant to what's happening in the world today.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1



while i agree that the state of the world is a mess
the etiology that I ascribe is 180 degrees opposite of you.

You blame the condition on religion
I blame the condition on lack of religion.

reply to post by slugger9787


Lack of religion? Really? Just as I thought, you are oblivious to the world around you. Either you really can't comprehend just how religious the world really is, or you are just ignoring it. I don't know which is worse.

Funny how the most Christian nation in the world (U.S.) is also the biggest war-monger in the world. What a coincidence! Not. I guess the Crusades that were fought in the name of religion were actually fought because of the lack of religion? And the Inquisitions too? Sure, keep telling yourself that.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by slugger9787

 

The "word of god" brought on the Inquisitions and Crusades, it also brought on the killing of thousands of pagans when it was legalized. The bible is far from being the word of god, it is deception at the highest level possible.

You've been lied to and can't and refuse to try to see it, that is what deception is all about. This world is not godly, look at the state it's in, it's more corrupt today than it has ever been before. If you think TPTB would really allow the truth to spread like with the bible, you are ignorant to what's happening in the world today.

It wasn't the Pagans, except for witches, that were killed. It was the true Christians who were rebelling against Catholic authority that were killed in the Crusades.

The Pagans loved Catholicism; the church adopted all their holidays and told them heaven awaited if they were baptized/marked by the church. They accepted the baptism/Mark happily. But the true Christians rejected the Mark and became Martyrs.

reply to post by sacgamer25


I was talking about the pagans that Constantine killed after he legalized Christianity. I realize the Crusades and the pagan persecutions were different events.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


I have attended the same church for fifty seven years.
It used to require one service on Saturday night and three services on Sunday morning in order for all the people to attend. Each service was 75% or greater full of parishoners. Today, it only takes two services one on Saturday and one on Sunday to allow all parishoners to attend. Still 75% occupied.
The population of the town has increased.
The parishoners have decreased.

It is like this all over America.
So even though people may say
with their mouth they profess their faith,
they are not doing that with their feet.

The church attending people has decreased by greater than fifty percent.
This spans the time from 1955 to 2013.

So there is less religion today than 57 years ago.

And people have not just stopped going to chruch.
They have evolved from Christianity into secular
humanism and moral relative world views.

in the 1950 and before the five influences on a person in descending order of importance were
1. family
2. church
3. school
4. friends
5. media

Today the five influences on a person are
1. media
2. friends
3. school
4. church
5. family

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


how many were killed in the crusades and inquisition?
under the name of christianity?

how many have been killes this past century under
the name atheistic socialism/communism?

reply to post by slugger9787


As I pointed out earlier, Jesus considered church-goers (synagogue-goers of the time) as hypocrites. The less people going to church is not a bad thing and I think Jesus would approve of it based on the verse I quoted earlier.

If I had a dollar for every time someone used the argument of people not being "true" Christians, I'd be rich by now. That is a total cop-out argument and an easy excuse to use.

What's wrong with humanism or moral relativism?

Where did you get your list from? You seriously think family is at the bottom of the list? Ask any family man or woman anywhere in America that and they'd probably laugh at you. Why not give a source where a study was conducted that proves that your list is true. As for now, I'm not buying it.

Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

 

how many were killed in the crusades and inquisition?
under the name of christianity?

how many have been killes this past century under
the name atheistic socialism/communism?

Both the Crusades and Inquisitions were ordered by the Catholic Church, which still happens to be the largest church in the world today and was the start of Christianity. I'd say hundreds of thousands of people were killed between the Inquisitions and Crusades.

As far as I know, no genocides of any kind have been committed in the name of no god. The statement is illogical in itself.

Care to point to a genocide that was committed in the name of no god? I think you'd be hard pressed to find any.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1



first of all prove it was hundreds of thousands.
that number is extremely inflated, which does not surprise me.

second, you knew that i was asking to compare the number of deaths
with atheistic socialist/communist governments in just this past century,
so i now realize all you are having is just a big tantrum. a kiniption fit.

reply to post by slugger9787


Okay, if I said a few thousand, would that make you feel better? A few thousand is still a few thousand too many. Why are you lumping communism and socialism with atheism? Are they not mutually exclusive in your world-view? Because I don't see how they could possibly be connected in any way.

There are no killings made in the name of no god, the notion is absurd in itself. That's like saying someone eats pickles because they don't believe in cucumbers.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


communism = atheistic socialism.

it has been in the tens of millions killed by people who do not believe in god.
so if you are right and the world is more religious than it ever has been how do you explain that the majority of premature deaths this past century were at the hands of non religious people?

lets not include the 150 million abortions though, okay.

reply to post by slugger9787


So you're creating your own definition of communism now? Alrighty then...

If you're going to assume that killings by non-religious people were because of not believing in god then you must assume the same about religious people who kill. Also, where are you getting your numbers that tens of millions have died because of atheism? Did you make those numbers up? I'm pretty sure you did. Practice what you preach and stop "extremely inflating" your numbers.

How many genocides have been committed in the name of atheism? Now compare that to the genocides committed in the name of god. The latter is far more abundant than the former, you're ignoring history if you don't think so.

Guess what, the holocaust was based on Hitler's desire to have a perfect Arian race. Arianism is based on the teachings of a Christian from the 3rd century named Arius, so there's another mark for religion. Stop being ignorant and stop ignoring the facts.

Look up the percentage of abortions that are had by Christian women, you'll be extremely surprised. Or will you use the excuse that they aren't really Christian?

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


when communism takes control of a country, who do the leaders kill?

the educated, the professionals, the intelligent layer of society. why?

and you think uncle adolph was practicing christianity?

you are the antithesis of your screen name.

I was in war. I was with a wife that died of cancer. I was born and baptized a Christian. I have to this day no Idea what is going on.

My cat (who I live with now jeeezze...) got really sick last month and would not eat...etc...I took her to the Vet and got her a blood test (and I prayed..) it worked!!
She had a thyroid problem and after some pills and a new diet..she is driving me crazy me again!! yeaaaah!!

I wish that would haved worked for my wife that good..

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


there are 100 million between Mao and Stalin.
both atheists and both communists.

reply to post by slugger9787


It seems I made a mistake, Arianism is not the same as Aryanism. I'll admit that I was wrong in that instance, but I see no difference between Hitler believing Aryan's were superior and Israelites believing they were superior.

Your assertion that communism is solely based on atheism is completely off-base. There is such a thing as Christian Communism.

If Stalin and Mao killed all those people in the name of no god (which is absurd), then we must also assume that the Crusades and Inquisitions were committed in the name of god.

Do you think that they were practicing atheism when they killed all those people? NO! They were practicing paranoia and they were power hungry. The Abrahamic god has caused more deaths than any other "no god" in history. How can something be done in the name of nothing? That is completely illogical!

By the way, I'm neither atheist nor agnostic. I do believe in a god, just not your version of him, nor any other religions version of him. I believe in the God that is in every single one of us, not some outside entity who goes around ordering women and children to be slaughtered by his "chosen people". The idea that god would single out any group of people is ridiculous, and that is exactly what your bible teaches.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by slugger9787

 

Lack of religion? Really? Just as I thought, you are oblivious to the world around you. Either you really can't comprehend just how religious the world really is, or you are just ignoring it. I don't know which is worse.

Funny how the most Christian nation in the world (U.S.) is also the biggest war-monger in the world. What a coincidence! Not.

I guess the Crusades that were fought in the name of religion were actually fought because of the lack of religion? And the Inquisitions too? Sure, keep telling yourself that.

edit on 12-5-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)

Anybody who is a student of prophecy would know that the U.S. is not the most Christian nation in the world. It started out that way, but over time it has moved far, far away from it. That was actually prophesied in the Bible. The United States is the second beast of Revelation. So, you are correct when you stated that while putting on a Christian front, this country is actually the biggest war-monger in the world. This country second most evil entity in the world. www.remnantofgod.org...

It is true that Satan has had a hand in corrupting religion left and right. However, throughout all time there have always been people who keep the law and the word of God in the way which He intended. Just because the majority are corrupt does not mean that the true Word of God is corrupt.

Revelation 13:11-15(KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.