Tom Hanks/JFK The most important event in TV history.

Some information is leaking out as Hollywood and members of the TMMC-(To many millions club) continue to advance what is now being billed as not a 'mini series' but a 'Life event" coming this November. "To allow the memory of our most beloved President( surely he is kidding) to rest and to lay to rest all fears of complacency in his most untimely assassination"

I and many others had taken to quiet and serious study to answer the question of just what is the point of all this. I have yet to find any group-the left, right, fringe, center or even the insanity of the furthest right or left wing group that can benefit from another apologia for the Warren Commission and it's findings. Our government has nothing whatsoever to do with this project and have made that statement emphatically. They know how stupid it is-they should as they have struck out at this 6 times now.

Until someone else can entertain another angle-you are more that welcome to try-I'm just going to stick with the most obvious-bruised ego's from incredibly wealthy persons(who have made their fortunes from make-believe) not getting any respect for their views in historical matters-they finally found something money can't buy-it must be very irritating.

Apparently, horror novelist Stephen King wrote a fiction book that somehow involved the assassination of Jack Kennedy and the book was an embarrassing flop since the essence of the novel was a lone nut LHO did it all and a total love hug to the single bullet theory and an insulting swipe at persons with decades of experience in this crime.
I attended a lecture by Attorney Mark Lane in 1976 at the Langford Auditorium at Vanderbilt University, the same place I would hear Astronomer Carl Sagan's lecture on 'nuclear winter' some ten years later, and I was stunned-putting it mildly-at what I saw and heard. Ever since then I have been active in my own research and have amassed of 1,000's of my own assassination files.
Having 200 or even 300 million dollars and nothing to spend it on can't replace 35 years of thought and socialistic study and I believe this is the real reason for this whole event. A total disbelief of some of the Hollywood types that all their money means squat to individuals around the world that have decaded their lives to this still unsolved crime.
There is also a revenge motive on the part former LA prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi as his book 'Reclaiming History'-A long(1700 page swipe at JFK conspiracy writers) was a total flop because before it went public it became known that his best seller Helter Skelter was written, in it's entirety, by ghost writer Curt Gentry-who seemed to have a little revenge on his mind as well.

It seems the plan for the production will follow the well worn path set in stone by Minster Goebbels that propaganda-to be effective-need more than words from a loud speaker and print from a news paper-it needs action. So following this mold there will be a dozen or so "carefully timed and properly placed 'media leaks' to soften up the viewing public' to accept a contrary conclusion. "A Contrary Conclusion!" Some where in hell Herr Goebbels has to be laughing has A off at the fact that the world has learned so very little in the past 70 years or so.

What they fail to understand is the fact that 1,000 of researchers around the world are set and ready to make fools of their 'tightly controlled media leaks' that will 'soften up the viewing public'

Here is just one. After the JFK Act in 1992 and the creation of the ARRB Assassination records review board over 180 boxes of documents from the basement of the FBI records building-now called the FBI vault-were dumped into the National Archive in Washington DC. In going through these records staff member Doug Horne came across a photograph.

The infamous Mary Morrman Polaroid photo with badgeman, black dog man, officer Bobby Hargis grassy knoll the works. However where is DRIVER WILLIAM GREER??
The FBI has somehow used a process known then as shaded matting to remove him from the photo. This is not a movie frame-it's a oneshot Polaroid photo confiscated by someone proposing to be a secret service agent an hour after the shots were fired.
The question in all the land in Goshen is WHY?????

And no driver Greer didn't shoot anyone as his angle to have inflicted the head wound he would have needed to stand on the sidewalk. Some get rich quick books in the 80's proposed this however is totally dismissed by everyone.

For what purpose would it have served to do this? All the photographs and motion pictures were taken the night of the assassination to Washington and developed in a lab somewhere on the Beltway-CIA FBI who knows.
How would anyone have known this was important in the evidence a year later or 50 years later. No one understand this-it's as quirk and queer as anything in this saga.

As soon as the Too Many Millions historians try to 'soften up the viewing public' with controlled media leaks stuff like this is going to pop up from researchers all over the world-there is so much of this stuff still buried in the ARRB.

WHY oh WHY oh WHY was this done to this picture.?

I don't think the driver was "smuged" out of the picture. It looks like this picture was taken either the fatal shot was fired or just after as Jackie looks at JFK to check if he is ok.....With all that happens in those few seconds it is possible that the camera shot the picture when the driver was actually ducked down and trying to escape the bullets.

The identity of the driver is well known, no reason to edit him out of a picture i my opinion.

50 years later and the propaganda and disinformation is still in full effect.

Like many of you, I've done more than my fair share of research and studying of history specifically concerning the assassination of a great president and man, who was not without his faults, but in spite of them and because of them I believe learned to be a better person and a true leader and great American. It is appalling and disgusting to me that there is still ANYONE out there who would support and parrot the official narrative given to us by the authorities and yet it does not surprise me with how much they have to lose.

However, decades ago polls showed that a overwhelming majority of Americans did not buy what they were selling and I can only extrapolate the numbers have grown even larger. At some point the levies must break and the resistance to truth put forth by those in power will be swept aside.

This year more than any other those of us concerned with the Truth must be as vocal and active as possible to combat this stinking pile of bull. I live in Dallas/Ft. Worth and you can bet your bottom dollar I will be in Dealey Plaza come that day in November and I have a feeling there will be a majority of people there who will fight the Official Story sanctioned by the Warren Commission and their defenders, we will drown out their lies.


Justice must be served. Not only for a great American who still inspires me and many others to this day but for the countless others who have fell victim to the organized crime syndicate that took full control of our republic on November 22, 1963. They've been around much longer, but I believe they only took complete and utter control after killing the people's president, who fought them tooth and nail towards the end, in broad daylight and in front of every last one of us. Ill sacrifice everything I have to help justice be served. Truth is the most important thing. We are fighting evil incarnate, make no mistake. Evil with vast resources but devoid of the one thing we hold over them - a human soul.

The light inside us can extinguish all darkness.

Perhaps this will help

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The FBI has somehow used a process known then as shaded matting to remove him from the photo. This is not a movie frame-it's a oneshot Polaroid photo confiscated by someone proposing to be a secret service agent an hour after the shots were fired. The question in all the land in Goshen is WHY?????

What would be the motive to remove him from the picture? Maybe something from that angle gave something away?

Would it show that maybe he had been hit with something too?

Real interesting....

Another thing that is interesting is, If this is OUR President we deserve the right to the original photo. Why would you come in and take a photo? That's almost against the Freedom of the Press.

Why would you need to take the photo anyways? An hour after being taken? That means they were watching for anything that was going on that could foil their inside job, And if there was anything that could of foiled it they needed to act fast to get it..

Stephen King book 11/22/63 was not a flop it was both a critical and commecial success. In fact Warner Brother and JJ Abrams are tying to get the rights to a film or mini series. He also did extensive research for the book along with another researcher not only reading, but going in person to all the sights, and meeting with historians. Doing the research in person he determined it was a single man that change the course of history.

I always had an intrest in the subject and like most people though more had to be involved but, once you get past the legends and look at the facts along with the legit science I have also over the years been forced to conclude that Oswald did it.

Of course like Jack the Ripper and UFOs an entire industry has been made out of JFK assasination. Dozens of theories each one claiming to be the truth. None of them agree of course and they always require skipping some facts and adding lots of guess work. Nobody likes the idea of on man being able to change history but, we see it happen over and over again. Oslwald alone is just to scary of an idea to most people and to the entire power structure.

I believe it was more than Oswald. However, just looking at the picture posted by the OP, it's obvious the driver doesn't FIT into the photo. You're not looking at the windshield here, you are looking at the middle glass. The drivers head is half an inch outside of the photo.

I don’t think the point of airing a JFK mini-series agreeing with the Warren Commission is JFK. I think the point is a ‘lone nut’, white, right wing extremist with a rifle.

To the millions who weren’t alive to know JFK and have no idea what happened, this will be seen as historically accurate. And the books coming out about the assassination this year will be relegated to the ‘wingnut’ category before anyone ever reads them.

[Of course this relates to our current government – politics is forever. We must believe our benevolent government which only exists to protect us.]

There are many relevant, evidence-based books about the assassination that could be used as the basis for a mini-series or documentary to honor JFK’s memory on this 50th anniversary. It makes me suspicious that a pro-Warren Commission book is being used as a ‘controversy’ piece. I never thought of Mr. Hanks as the provocative type and wonder if he really believes this nonsense. I gave him more credit.

The sad part is that Tom Hanks was recently polled as the person most Americans trust.

There is a response to the NYT Review of the book this mini-series is based on at this website, which is relevant: www.ctka.net...
In part, it states: “Bryan Burrough's laudatory review of Vincent Bugliosi's book on the Kennedy assassination (May 20) is superficial and gratuitously insulting. "Conspiracy theorists" -- blithe generalization -- should according to Burroughs be "ridiculed, even shunned ... marginalized the way we've marginalized smokers." Let's see now. The following people to one degree or another suspected that President Kennedy was killed as the result of a conspiracy, and said so either publicly or privately: Presidents Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon; Attorney General Robert Kennedy; John Kennedy's widow, Jackie; his special adviser dealing with Cuba at the United Nations, William Attwood; F.B.I. director J. Edgar Hoover (!); Senators Richard Russell (a Warren Commission member), and Richard Schweiker and Gary Hart (both of the Senate Intelligence Committee); seven of the eight congressmen on the House Assassinations Committee and its chief counsel, G. Robert Blakey; the Kennedy associates Joe Dolan, Fred Dutton, Richard Goodwin, Pete Hamill, Frank Mankiewicz, Larry O'Brien, Kenneth O'Donnell and Walter Sheridan; the Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman, who rode with the president in the limousine; the presidential physician, Dr. George Burkley; Mayor Richard Daley of Chicago; Frank Sinatra; and the "60 Minutes" producer Don Hewitt. All of the above, à la Burrough, were idiots.”

So I'm an idiot too - according to this NYT reviewer. I'm in good company.

Photographic expert Robert Groden testified in executive session of the 1977 HSCA hearings that the Moorman Polaroid photo and frame 313 of the Zapruder film are within 3/16th of a second of each other. The House Committee accepted this conclusion without debate, which considering it's importance, is simply another oddity appointed to a Government bent on blaming elements of La Cosa Nostra and burying any evidence to the contrary. By comparison the average eye blink is between 6 and 7/16th of a second. That testimony is in volume 7 of the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

Driver Greer is not hiding or out of the frame. The location of Nellie Connally's head-with her husband in the process of falling into her lap-proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. The alteration of this photo has been conceited without explanation.

Volume 4 of Doug Horne's report on the Assassination Records Review Board (AARB) has a clearer picture than the one I posted.

Something important in all this is the fact that When President Clinton signed the JFK act in 1992 that created the ARRB the language of the Act and the subsequent charter of the Review Board was changed several times to meet his own standard for his approval. The Charter for the board is:

"The US Government's FINAL Attempt to Reconcile the Conflicting Medical Evidence in the Assassination Of JFK"

The word FINAL is capitalized 9 times in the charter brief for a reason. There will never be another investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy by the United States Government. When the AARB shut it doors in 1998 that ended the governments investigation into the crime forever. That was the whole idea behind the legislation spurred by Oliver Stone's movie JFK-and public descent about the medical evidence.

The results of the investigation of the medical evidence is so complex it's impossible to go into here with any clarity as Horne's ( Chief Analyst for Military Records for the Assassination Records Review Board) 5 volume synopsis(some 1400 pages) reaches conclusions that few are aware of because of the volumes of conflicting evidence in the crime, and most importantly, the learning curve of 45 years since the release of the Warren Report.

The thought that a Hollywood production of a miniseries, that focuses on a singular conclusion of a fiction writer, without even considering the massive amounts of material released by the AARB(which is still being studied) just proves the point of it's personal, not historic nature.

There are no amounts of millions of dollars that can replace the work around the globe of persons who have studied this for so long, and with such diligence, that is the point of the OP and it is still remains the question of why this is being done.

Certainly not for the sake of history.

Originally posted by Brigantia
I don’t think the point of airing a JFK mini-series agreeing with the Warren Commission is JFK. I think the point is a ‘lone nut’, white, right wing extremist with a rifle.

Two purposes - guns are bad and conspiracy theorists are crazy. No wonder this is important to them.

Originally posted by Wizayne
I believe it was more than Oswald. However, just looking at the picture posted by the OP, it's obvious the driver doesn't FIT into the photo. You're not looking at the windshield here, you are looking at the middle glass. The drivers head is half an inch outside of the photo.

I agree. There are 3 rows of people in the car. The photo in the OP only has 2 rows of people and an angled shot of the front passenger... the driver is out of frame.

Geez, you would think that someone who has spent most of his life researching would catch such an obvious fact instead of claiming that someone has been removed from the photo for no good reason.

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JFK was an idiot and for all intents and purposes, one of the worst Presidents we've ever had.

He is remembered well because of what happened to him but digging through his record you will see how moronic some of his policies actually were.

I believe he was shot because someone around him feared that he may do something stupid, like getting us into a world war, which he almost did.

Did you know that he had to call Eisenhower to ask him how to deal with Kruschev who literally was bending him over the barrel and having his way with him.

The guy was not cut out to be a President.

Funny thing is had I not posted this on ATS the whole gun control, lone nut( guns bad Socialism good) angle simply would not have occurred to me. Shows how much I (purposely) don't know about the current state of affairs.

This angle, like most of the whole project, makes little sense as Retired Dallas police chief, Jesse Curry's book 'Assassination File' has surely been glanced at by the Hollywood team of experts. His statement on page 41 kind of drowns that idea with "We never had a thing to tie that kid to the gun, or even place him at the scene-nothing"

Of course the Warren Commission themselves threw their own evidence under the bus as in describing the infamous 'palm print' as McCloy put it this way in volume 14 "As evidence it's bogus, couldn't get anywhere near a court of law"

About the only thing the HSCA accomplished was to reenforce what the Warren Commission couldn't bear to say that Marina Oswald was the biggest liar for hire they had ever encountered and she learned the American way of greed at light speed. With her murdered husband barley cold in the ground after nine months she had amassed over $78,000 in 'interview fees' in today's bloated currency that has got to approach a million.

The FBI experts that tied LHO to the MC rifle by comparing the 'signature' of Alex Hidell with Oswald's own handwriting were left with their dicks in the wind when Marina testified(Volume 9) that it was her signature on the FPCC membership card that the Bureau used. One wonders how many FBI 'strategy sessions' were conducted to see if it was possible to blow her brains out and get away with it.

It matter little which side your on in this debate as using anything Marina has said is considered verboten as she described her book "Marina and Lee" with gutter trash journalist Priscilla Mcmillan as "bullasheet but lots of green" in an interview after her appearance before the HSCA. Funny how her ability to speak English always ebbed and flowed accordingly as to who, and how much, she was being paid. No doubt the assassination committee wondered if they could get some of Trafficante's psycho killer squads to preform the infamous 'icepick through the ear' natural cause of death for the grieving widow-and get away with it.

She later said in cut sessions of the British production 'Men who killed Kennedy' that she learned a lot about America by watching television.

Even I can't think of a proper response for that comment.