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Originally posted by illuminnaughty
reply to post by andy1972
True Andy we cant take every thing as it seems.
Originally posted by illuminnaughty
The reason camoron said that was because of this case. He will be found not guilty and it will all have been a mistake. Its all part of a pysops to dicredit whistle blowers and other people who come forward to name MPs who are paedophiles.
Originally posted by illuminnaughty
All those who doubt the evidence should go and read that thread on Ickes site which exposes it all.
Heres the link if anyone wants to know the truth of this sordid sad tale.
www.davidicke.com...
Originally posted by illuminnaughty
reply to post by Rocker2013
Rocker
camoron knew all about this case in 2009
www.telegraph.co.uk... -behaviour.html
He was interviewed by Patrick McLoughlin, the then opposition chief whip who is now Transport Secretary, but the matter was not reported to police by either the Conservatives or the complainant.
Originally posted by Rocker2013
Originally posted by illuminnaughty
reply to post by andy1972
True Andy we cant take every thing as it seems.
Okay, I'll bite...
You know why Cameron said that? Because it's true, and you are actually being a good example of it. The list that was released at that time included men who had CONSENSUAL relations with MEN over the age of 18 - but at the time the law was unjust and was set at 21 for gay men. There were also harsh terms for men caught engaging in consensual activities outside too, given labels that actually make them sound like perverts - when in a actual fact they are no different to a heterosexual couple caught being amorous in an alley or a park.
So, people found themselves on a list being accused of being sexual predators and deviants when in actual fact the laws at the time were not equal, were vastly unfair, and have retrospectively been abolished.
You need to learn about what you are accusing people of before you post, because you come across as just another homophobic reactionary tabloid reader about to go and burn down the house of a pediatricianedit on 5-5-2013 by Rocker2013 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MaxSteiner
Labour were voted out for a reason - say what you like about the tories they didn't sell all our gold off at the lowest price it had been for twenty years and bankrupt the country bailing out the banks like Gordon Brown did - he must have been one of the most inept leaders we've ever had.edit on 6-5-2013 by MaxSteiner because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Yuck. Another Tory caught with his trousers down, but this time accused of rape instead of mere adultery. I guess that David Cameron must have his head in his hands as yet more bad press descends on him.
Originally posted by BMorris
Police don't arrest people randomly in the UK (yet), especially not Members of Parliament. For them to have arrested Mr Evans MP, means they feel they have strong physical evidence already, otherwise they would have just invited him in to ask him some questions.
Originally posted by Rocker2013
Originally posted by wildtimes
Wait, a "Conservative" member of parliament is pushing for gay rights? Guess I need to study up on the use of the term yet again, this time as used in the UK. It and the term "liberal" have various meanings in certain subjects.
That seems to be in direct opposition to what USA "Conservatives" are trying to do. Is there a different "conservativism" in the UK than there is in the USA?
Otherwise, yes, another disgusting politician being undressed....
while Israel bombs Syria. I get your point there, entirely.
Conservatives in the UK are really nothing like the USA. We don't generally have religious preaching from politicians, and although there is a "polite" Christianity in some aspects of the Conservative party it's nothing like the evangelical nature of American conservatives.
Basically, the UK the Conservative party has become more centrist in order to appeal to the majority, while in the USA the Republican party is holding on to the religious, judgemental and moralistic aspects and sinking in the polls as a result.
The Republican party will have to become more centrist and liberal in the future if it has any hope of gaining support in the youth of America, as opinions about gay marriage and equality are changing fast.
Basically, here the conservatives are more concerned with fiscal conservatism and less about morality and telling people how to live their lives.
As for this story, I think we should be a little cautious. There has been a lot of BS posted on the net about innocent people in the last couple of years. It would be worth watching this story unfold a little more before condemning an accused person.