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NBA center Jason Collins on Monday announced that he's gay in a story for Sports Illustrated, becoming the first active player in a major American team sport to announce that he is gay.
"I didn't set out to be the first openly gay athlete playing in a major American team sport. But since I am, I'm happy to start the conversation," Collins wrote. "I wish I wasn't the kid in the classroom raising his hand and saying, 'I'm different.' If I had my way, someone else would have already done this. Nobody has, which is why I'm raising my hand."
NBA commissioner David Stern commended Collins for his announcement.
"As Adam Silver and I said to Jason, we have known the Collins family since Jason and Jarron joined the NBA in 2001 and they have been exemplary members of the NBA family. Jason has been a widely respected player and teammate throughout his career and we are proud he has assumed the leadership mantle on this very important issue," Stern said in a statement.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I find it to be fantastic. 15 years ago, had be come out, he would have been forced out of the league.
Its one of the few good signs for our society that people are becoming more and more able to be who they are, and not have to hide in shame.
Originally posted by jhn7537
reply to post by Turkenstein
Sports stories are honestly meaningless on ATS... Not even sure why I posted this story now....
So, somewhere along the line it became safe to be a gay athlete, and now that it is safe, the announcement is made. I agree that it is a first, but it certainly isn't Rosa Parks heroism. I'll bet anything that he gets a ton less flak than Tim Tebow did for his open Christianity.
The thing that you are missing is that it is not that long ago that just rumors of your being gay could get you blackballed from leagues.
The difference is, now these people dont have to lie about it. they can feel safe in not hiding who they are.
I hope that this reduces bigotry, but I don't see why it should. Will bigots stop being bigots or become less bigoted because a Black basketball player says he's gay? (I mentioned Black, because I don't know whether the bigots are upset about that, too.) My opinion isn't worth much in these matters, but it seems more like a publicity stunt than anything else.
No one SHOULD care about his sexual preference. But the bigots do. And THAT is the reason for the support.
Ill agree, this isnt Rosa Parks. It isnt Jackie Robinson. But it is still an important barrier to break. Im not so sure he will get less flack than Tebo....though, I cannot imagine he will be as outspoken as Tebow, so it is possible.
So, somewhere along the line it became safe to be a gay athlete, and now that it is safe, the announcement is made. I agree that it is a first, but it certainly isn't Rosa Parks heroism. I'll bet anything that he gets a ton less flak than Tim Tebow did for his open Christianity.
I think the biggest thing is just breaking that barrier. It wont stop bigots from being bigots, but if someone who is not sure if it is safe to be who they are, and sees this, it might give them some courage to not be afraid.
I hope that this reduces bigotry, but I don't see why it should. Will bigots stop being bigots or become less bigoted because a Black basketball player says he's gay? (I mentioned Black, because I don't know whether the bigots are upset about that, too.) My opinion isn't worth much in these matters, but it seems more like a publicity stunt than anything else.
Let me engage in some far-fetched fantasy. I don't know what the average basketball player is like, but six teams in twelve years and both points and rebounds under four sounds pretty light to me.
A journeyman who has played for six teams and appeared in two NBA finals, Collins basketball resume will now be summed up in one word - "gay."
Over 713 career games Collins averaged 3.6 points and 3.8 rebounds but in the end his words will carry more weight than any of his statistics.
I can't know what his intentions were, but the article claims that his announcement will give him a slightly better chance to play another year.
Some of the NBA's biggest names, including former most valuable player Kobe Bryant offered support, making it clear he would welcome Collins as a teammate, but no team has yet stepped forward with a contract offer.
But the 34-year-old is also on the downside of his career and any potential team will have to balance what Collins can contribute against the distraction he will bring.
Given the significance of Monday's events, the NBA is also likely to feel some heat to get Collins signed and into a training camp next season or face questions about the league's attitudes towards gay athletes.
I wasn't aware of that, thank you. Then what does the headline of the thread mean when he is described as an "active player?"
Umm, Jason Collins (or his brother, Jarron) has been out of the swing of things for at least the last two seasons, so I doubt he did this for the publicity.
Jackie Robinson was hired because Rickey wanted to integrate baseball, and Robinson was the best candidate. Businesses spend money in donations to show they aren't bigoted, or avoid threats of boycotts. I am not saying that Collins will be hired, in part, because of his preferences, but it is not impossible. Certainly in other fields besides sports, people have been hired because of their characteristics rather than their abilities.
Nor would it likely garner him a contract. Teams sign contracts either to: a) increase the chances of winning games or b) increase the chances of selling tickets. Going to see a gay basketball player simply doesn't have the same appeal as the possibility of a female player like Britney Griner playing in the NBA (as Mavs owner Mark Cuban has been flirting with, obviously as a ploy to sell tickets).
What cultural barriers? That there can be no gay men in Basketball? I've never heard of that one. And if he does break that down, to what effect? Who will be saved from bigotry because of his announcement? If he is a hero for breaking down a cultural barrier, shouldn't he be more of a hero for breaking lots of cultural barriers? Or as you suggest, are there "certain" barriers that should be broken and others that should be maintained? It would be interesting to see the criteria for determining "unbreakable" cultural barriers.
To many, he IS a hero, and he deserves to be seen as one because what he is doing does break down certain cultural barriers.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Aleister
I am happy, to a degree, that Jarron Collins feels relieved. My cousin is gay, and all the time I have to 'put up' with things that I otherwise disapprove of. But, its a compromise I have to make. My love for him trumps my disapproval for his life choice. And yes - it is a choice. With all the wondrous advances in neuroscience and in understanding the mind boggling plasticity of the human brian, it is downright scandalous that people are claiming that homosexuality is a 'genetic" permanency. If the brain can rewire its motor cortex after serious injury, than there is no shadow of a freaking doubt - nay, some neuroscientists are veritably perturbed with the politicization going on around this subject - that the hypothalamus, which deals with our sexual feelings, can be tweaked through cognitive therapy. This is completely beyond dispute.
What, you might be wondering, would compel me to oppose homosexuality? There are many ways to approach a moral situation, be it from a perspective of the immediate benefit (the gay persons relief), and so his good, or, from a metaphysical angle. Metaphysically, I believe the world works along the premise of a perfect asymmetry: between male and female energies. I believe all constructive relationships operate from this organizing principle. All things can be reduced to a male-female relationship, which is intrinsically asymmetrical.
”If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, the Bible says you know them by their fruits, it says that’s a sin. If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, adultery, fornication, premarital sex between heterosexuals, whatever it may be. I think that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don’t think the Bible would characterize them as a Christian.”
Originally posted by charles1952
I am not opposed to homosexuality. I am opposed to homosexual activity and marriage.