Nixon's Apollo: Howard Hughes and the Apollo Hoax

Nixon's Apollo: Howard Hughes and the Apollo Hoax

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The main underlying theme of

Nixon's Apollo

is that Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon both loved movies, in 1969 they were arguably the two most powerful men in America, they could have faked the Apollo Moon landings, they had the motives, the means and the opportunity to do it and they did it. I will go into the details of the theory at this point -- but it's still a work in progress. I'm not aware of any other conspiracy researchers that are going in this direction. I think that it's time to put this out there.

Another big part of this work in progress is the timeline. There are over 1000 entries on the Nixon's Apollo timeline… . I have also tracked some other of the main conspiracies of the 20th century. www.tiki-toki.com...

The result of my research has that these two most powerful men, Richard Nixon and Howard Hughes were both obsessively, compulsively watching more movies than anybody else could possibly imagine. Both of them were tax dodgers, film lovers, fervent and dedicated anti-Communists, they were involved in 'delicate' financial relations with each other, Hughes went into seclusion at the same time that Nixon seized the U.S. presidency… the Hughes/Nixon relationship is vital to this theory.

Time after time, in their biographies, there are references of "yellow legal pads". Both Nixon and Hughes used them. I have studied these guys for the last 2 years. The more I studied them, the more I was able to build this picture of a theory.

But mainly I have focussed on the film obsessions of Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon, who while in office screened over 500+ movies during his tumultuous tenure as President of the United States. In my theory, Nixon is the President but that, in my view, makes Howard Hughes the Chairman of the Board.

After studying both these men for I can safely say, I don't underestimate them. We simply can't imagine the amount of potential power these two men held in their hands in 1968. If they wanted to fake a moon landing and make a movie out of it there was no question... Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon possessed the economic, industrial, political, electronic, supersonic arsenal and raw capital to do it. This is my basis of the theory for

Nixon's Apollo.

[Part Two - focus on connections]
Nobody really understands the moon. Just ask a lunar scientist. They don't know jack about it. They don't know how it got there. They don't know why it rings like a bell when struck by a fragments of NASA space junk. And they have had 40+ years to drill down into it and find out what's inside the Moon but they haven't done it. Is that why NASA inevitably crashes so many probes on the moon.. to hear it ring?

There is a new race to the moon and I have been wondering what NASA has been hiding from the Nixon years.



Howard Hughes could build a drill bit that could eat through any rock. I have no doubt in my mind that CIA Overlord Howard Hughes could send a ship to the moon and drill down for miles. NO DOUBTS IN MY MIND. With Richard Nixon in power during all 9 Apollo moon shots my mind is certainly made up. They made a movie for us. The name of the movie was

Nixon's Apollo.

How do you explain the situation when President Nixon's brother, Ed who held 2 degrees in geology, couldn't find a job in geology, so he went to work at Bellcomm, in the hiring department? Bellcomm, is the NASA contractor who wrote the mission profiles and selected the astronauts for each mission.

Can you imagine that? The President's little brother earned 2 degrees in geology! Can't find a job in geology! So Ed Nixon ended up at Bellcomm in the hiring department. Who does he hire? Farouk El-Baz.

Ed didn't have much luck in geology. And Ed Nixon selected the man who selected all the Apollo landing sites.


Neither did the other Nixon brother, Donald Nixon, have much luck at his choice of career. Donald was the restaurant owner and promoter of the ill-fated Nixonburger and a borrower of $205,000 dollars from Howard Hughes. And that money never got paid back. Donald was also acting as a money shuttle between the Hughes Tool Co. and the Nixon administration via bagman Bebe Rebozo, who was, Richard Nixon's best friend.

And yes, Richard Nixon and BeBe Rebozo owned homes in Key Biscayne and they were close neighbors at this exclusive neighborhood that also included a home owned by the Hughes Tool Co.

Nixon was relaxing at Key Biscayne with BeBe Rebozo while Apollo 16 was exploring the moon.


And yes, the Boys of Biscayne were watching movies that weekend. According to my sources (Barlett & Steele 1979) Howard Hughes also screened Diamonds Are Forever on 2 July 1972 about two months later.


Part Two of Nixon's Apollo will look at the relationships between Howard Hughes, Richard, Ed, and Donald Nixon. This part will also include characters like Richard Danner and Robert Maheu, Johnny Roselli, Santo Trafficante Jr., the Miami connections, the So-Cal connections, the Bay of Pigs connections and the grim ideological bullywork of good old American Red-baiting, and both Hughes and Nixon were experts in that. Specialists, in fact. Godfathers, in fact.

Howard Hughes first hugely successful film was Hell's Angels.
During the making of this film (2.5 years) Howard Hughes spent over $4 million dollars between 1927-1930 and learned how to sync audio and video to dramatic effect. The movie won an Academy Award. Proof that Hughes was a master of the art.



In later years the Hughes CIA front companies would produce Surveyor space craft for NASA and overcharge the government by millions of dollars.


While future Apollo astronaut Jim Irwin would find employment with Hughes guided missile programs, the Surveyors were scanning the lunar surface, generating all the necessary stock footage that would be edited by Hughes, in his Las Vegas studios, at the Desert Inn.

Apollo 14's Alan Shepard famously suffered from labyrinthitis which was cured by a miraculous operation.

Dr. House was known to have seen another patient.... a certain Howard Hughes, in Boston, in London.

There is a solid Apollo/Hughes connection that can't be denied.

Apollo wasn't a hoax. Nobody had the technology at the time to fake something like this.
Conspiracy theory or not, look at the hard facts... data storage on film was rubbish. They would have required acres of storage space, as well as (i forget the exact maths on this) something close to 5000m of film. Which, once cut and assembled, would have to then somehow be entirely dust free, as film with dust on it shows dust flecks on the screen. (none of the Apollo footage shows this)
It's virtually impossible to assemble 5000m of footage with no dust or fingerprints or editing marks of any kind, unless they did multiple takes and were unimaginably careful. In which case, the storage required just to film and assemble the reel would take something in the region of 1hectare of production/storage space.

on top of this, the signal was broadcast direct from Australia, so this means something created, fakes and filmed in the US then had to be broadcast to Australia, then mirrored back to the world in realtime, with no delay, otherwise the radio stations would be reading the 'faked' information before the event had been aired.
So unless they somehow shipped this monumental piece of film to Australia, after creating a flawless 5km piece of film, and the film didn't have a single issue in shipping, nor in unpacking and reassembling in Australia, some 12000km away, they then would have had a one chance broadcast... I enjoy the idea of a good conspiracy, but not when the facts are so damningly clear and present. And readily researchable for anyone who is willing to look it up.

Politicians do a lot of sneaky things, they cover up a lot of their actions, but they aren't magicians.

reply to post by windslayer


Thanks for the reply windslayer. You brought up the interesting idea with regard to the amount of film needed and storage concerns for those films. That is a pretty good angle and it's one that I never thought about.

Howard Hughes bought this building at 7000 Romaine St. in 1930. It encompasses the entire block.

More or less rectangular in shape, it fronted on Romaine Street and took up the entire block between Orange Drive and Sycamore Avenue. source Barlett & Steele 1979 pg. 210

Inside, the building was as drab and spartan as it's exterior. The first floor was dark and eerie. Along a concrete hallway running from one end to the other was a series of unused film laboratories and cutting rooms and several walk-in vaults dating to the 1930s. ... In one air-conditioned, humidity controlled vault were all the negatives and prints of his movies, as well as thousands of feet of outtakes. Source Barlett & Steele 1979 pg. 212

I don't think film storage space will be a problem for this theory. The building at 7000 Romaine St. was big enough (and secure enough) for Howard Hughes and it's big enough for Nixon's Apollo.

So unless they somehow shipped this monumental piece of film to Australia, after creating a flawless 5km piece of film, and the film didn't have a single issue in shipping, nor in unpacking and reassembling in Australia, some 12000km away, they then would have had a one chance broadcast...

I don't think that I am too worried about this "flawless 5km piece of film" because my theory hasn't made any claims about that. Besides, 5km of film is only 16,404 feet of film.

The Howard Hughes production of Hell's Angels shot over 2.25 MILLION FEET* of film. Somehow, Hughes was able to store it all, edit it down to 127 minutes and won an Academy Award for it.

Some idea of the significance of this total footage can be obtained from this comparison : Normally, a typical feature film lasting 90 minutes will have 8,000 feet of film. The average producer would shoot ten times as much film as he is going to need and make a selection from it. The director of Doctor Zhivago used 20 times as much as he needed. Hughes shot almost 300 times as much as was required. Source Albert Gerber, "Bashful Billionaire" 1967 pg. 129

*2,254,750 feet of film would be 687 KILOMETERS of film. (Source Gerber, pg. 129)

Oh. Well, in that case, I still believe that we did land on the moon, but I withdraw any contest to what you have posted. You've gone and looked things up as I suggested, and have come back with a generous and accurate amount of information to back up your claim.

Also, that's an incredibly huge amount of film!!

Originally posted by windslayer
Also, that's an incredibly huge amount of film!!

Not only was it a huge amount of film but this was a stupidly huge amount of money at the time... The cost of film stock alone was over $250,000 dollars. Hughes was closely involved in the editing of the film, first as a silent picture... and $2 million dollars later... re-shooting the film for sound. This fact is a crucial, structural feature of my theory.

Hell's Angels was made between 31 Oct 1927 and 1 May 1930. Howard Hughes went so far as to buy a Zeppelin from Germany only to crash it into the ground, on film. Hughes bought 50 or more airplanes to make this film. He personally owned the largest private airforce in the world. The total cost of Hell's Angels was estimated to be over $4 million.

Howard Hughes famously held his airplanes and pilots on hold for months waiting for the perfect cloud conditions. He was a perfectionist. Howard is the guy who mastered the art of putting silent pictures to sound in 1930's massive success, Hell's Angels

One of the main features of the Nixon's Apollo conspiracy theory is to expose the fact that modern historians have underestimated the motives, means and opportunities of Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon. $4 million in 1928 is not insignificant.



Hughes purchased a real zeppelin blimp only to crash it into the ground for the making of his film.


40 years later Hughes would be in seclusion at various locations of the world between 1966-1972 as he screened the millions of feet of Surveyor footage he used to create the Apollo films for NASA. With the assistance of Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke and NASA officials... Nixon's Apollo became a reality.

The Russians stole the plans and detonated a nuclear bomb in 1947, Do you really thing they could not sniff this out during Tricky Dick's Presidency?

Originally posted by Spader
The Russians stole the plans and detonated a nuclear bomb in 1947, Do you really thing they could not sniff this out during Tricky Dick's Presidency?

Why didn't the Russians steal our plans for the Saturn V rockets and send Apollo-copied modules to the moon?

Good work, I have never heard a connection between Hughes and Nixon before.
star & flag!
Do you have more?

Originally posted by Pilot
Good work, I have never heard a connection between Hughes and Nixon before.
star & flag!
Do you have more?

You may want to have a look at the Playboy article from September 1976 coldcaseupdate.blogspot.com...

At all times, Hughes and Nixon work together through the highly paid associates and personal confidants. These close henchmen have been involved in the Bay of Pigs and Watergate. There was an entire organization built around Howard Hughes that served the military industrial complex of which Nixon was the public front while Hughes served as the CIA front.

By the time of Apollo '69-'72 both Hughes and Nixon are beginning to bear more than a subtle resemblance to a famous gangster we all know and love from 1972's The Godfather. Who owned over %25 percent of Las Vegas casinos during that time - none other than HH. Skimming all the cash needed to set up the real time Apollo Operation and produce the films needed to fool the public. Howard Hughes was well known for being a perfectionist in addition to his powers of publicity which he bought and paid for through high priced public relations firms to release his movies and attend to waging wars against movie censorship.



Also, Mae Brussell's broadcast cover the Nixon/Hughes/CIA/NAZI connections in greater detail than I will ever go into in this thread. This is the basis for my understanding of the Hughes/Nixon relationship which was a mafia-styled money laundering through Las Vegas, Miami and the special connections between the CIA and Hughes Aircraft, whether it be in providing Surveyor spacecrafts or radar fire control systems for the Korean War, or satellite communications systems that Hughes Aircraft were pioneering in the early 1960's Bay of Pigs/Gulf of Tonkin era.

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter


Thank you, will look into it. Mae Brussell

Originally posted by Pilot
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

 

Thank you, will look into it. Mae Brussell

No doubting it - Mae Brussell has the most difficult material for most people to digest... it's complex...
and l a b y r i n t h i n e. I listened to the Nixon/Paperclip show at least 5 times before it all started to sink in.

Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon were the two biggest gangsters in the U.S. as of 1969-1972. No doubt about it!
After listening to Mae Brussell tapes and looking at the Apollo phenomenon for two years now I kind of got the idea for Nixon's Apollo.

Mae exposed Nixon's origins and connections to German Nazi's in Operation Paperclip together with the Gemstone Files! Nixon's connections with the mob and Howard Hughes (the greatest mobster of that time) which leads right into the JFK assassination, the Cuban missile crisis and the Bay of Pigs, Howard Hughes satellite network, the island he owned off the coast of Cuba, CIA vendetta's against the Kennedy's Robert and John who were killed in specific locations which exposes the power that these men wielded, she exposed the Howard Hughes CIA fronts and the final reel of the conspiracy theory that concludes with the Shakespearian finality of Richard Nixon's ungraceful exit from Watergate and subsequent pardon from Ford one month later.

This entire area of research was so confusing and demanding to me that I ended up building this timeline for myself - so that I could reference many of the crucial dates of events during the Cold War when fascist ideologies infiltrated the U.S. government by way of... people within the U.S. government who helped them into this country on the 1947-1950 timeframe... people like Richard Nixon and Allen Dulles, Nazi Reinhard Gehlen, Nazi Werner von Braun, Nazi Arthur Rudolph and hundreds of more Nazi scientists and war criminals were brought to America to run the Army ballistic missiles research programs and later the Apollo moon program which accomplished during Richard Nixon's presidency and no humans have been outside LEO (low earth orbit) since that time.
www.tiki-toki.com...

Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon represent 4 things:

1. Movies, Hollywood and propaganda
2. Fervent, dedicated, anti-Communism
3. The Military-Industrial-Complex
4. Fourth Reich gangsterism.

When we look at the time period of Nixon's Apollo 1968-1972 NASA was being run by CIA contractors. Deke Slayton was the CIA station chief of the Astronauts at Kennedy Space Center. Farouk El-Baz was the CIA selected the Apollo landing sites after he was hired by Richard Nixon's brother who himself held a two degrees in geology and couldn't find work in geology. And It is well known by exploring the source material that Howard Hughes was a CIA front. Hughes built the Surveyor space crafts that returned a lot of lunar video. Maybe Howard Hughes was editing the Surveyor footage to look like Apollo footage during his years of seclusion? Howard Hughes during this time is depicted in seclusion because he's editing and creating the Apollo movies in his Desert Inn penthouse suites, or at his hotel suites in the Bahamas, London or Managua!

The two most powerful gangsters in America, Hughes and Nixon, had every motive, means and opportunity to fake the Apollo moon landings during Nixon's presidency. Sympathetic to the Nazi ideology they both succombed to the powerful lies they created and in every way acted out the fantasy science-fiction mythology of Apollo and promoted the political propaganda with movies, television and images... images that no other organization has ever been able to duplicate, replicate or scientifically confirm.

The two identifying features of a Howard Hughes Production are : cost overruns and untimely delivery of the goods. And this is exactly what I found in the Surveyor Program.

It's possible that Hughes built more than 10 Surveyors, complete with TV cameras, and landed them precisely at those lunar sites which NASA claims to have landed during the propaganda/promotional phase of Nixon's Apollo, the operational years of the Nixon presidency, including, without prejudice, Nixon's presidential-elect period that would include specifically the Christmas brainwash phenomenon of Apollo 8's lunar orbital mission outside the Earth Radiation Belts, where no man had gone before.

Christmas Eve 1968 would be Howard Hughes' 63rd birthday. And in this theory, birthdays are important. But even more important is the fact of "After three practice missions...". It means that there were 10 Surveyor missions... 3 extra missions. Note the word missions. Missions. 3 m o r e m i s s i o n s for a total of 10 missions.

SURVEYOR, THE COSTS

The original negotiated cost of the Hughes contract for seven spacecraft was $67 million. Final Hughes contract costs came to $365 million, over a fivefold increase;

NASA's original estimated total cost of the Surveyor project was $125 million whereas the final costs came to $469 million, somewhat less than a fourfold increase. Source www.nasa.gov...

SURVEYOR, 3 PRACTICE MISSIONS?

"Following the Ranger missions, NASA's Surveyor program was designed to find a way to safely land on the Moon. After three practice missions, five of the seven Surveyor spacecraft made it to the Moon." Source science1.nasa.gov...

Skeleton in the Closet

Happy Valentines Day, NASA! You've got a Howard Hughes skeleton in your closet.


What if, Hughes had 3 Surveyors ready to go before Kennedy was killed and those 3 Surveyors found evidence of E.T. on the Moon which caused JFK to visit the Pope at the Vatican in July of 1963 and later to issue NSAM 271 in October ---- a directive to cooperate with the Soviets on a moon landing project ---- a project which could not be allowed to proceed, at least, not until the military industrial complex has had gained another 10 more years of mega-profits from Viet Nam and psychologically raped the western world using Hollywood movie stars, using radio wave communications, using television for mind control of America, and using the communication network of satellites ( built by the Howard Hughes CIA front ) in the early 1960's tended to facilitate the production of a moon landing picture which was co-produced by Hughes and Nixon, and the Nazi rocket scientists from Operation Paperclip.?

The two most powerful gangsters in America, Hughes and Nixon, had every motive, means and opportunity to fake the Apollo moon landings during Nixon's presidency.

Can you clarify what the motive for these two men to do this would have been?

I've studied Nixon in-depth and have never seen any benefit he received from the Apollo moon missions.

reply to post by Hopechest


It's a fair question and it's nice to get a question from somebody on ATS with an interest in Richard Nixon.

Richard Nixon motives, means and opportunities.
Anti-communism is the first most powerful motive. To beat the Soviets to the moon was something that well, it should have been Nixon making that speech at Rice goddamn it! Which brings us to Nixon's Anti-Kennedyism and how Nixon rather enjoyed going after them, one by one, trying to kill them off. Two out three aint bad. Nixon was in the vicinity of downtown Dallas on that fateful morning.

Nixon's motives are all about being and playing the part of the Mr. Big. All his life Nixon practiced creating groups of people with certain interests and, by virtue of creating the group, he could name himself the president of that group. He had done it while in school and during his early years in Congress but not the Senate.

But, Nixon knows that he's only playing the part of Mr. Big, it causes him to sweat on camera, it causes his five o-clock shadow to give him the appearance of a scrappy old boozer on Tv and he knows that he looks bad which makes him sweat and frown further. The 1960 campaign Tv debates make it clearly evident and evidently clear.

Who could be Mr. Big? What character is behind the scenes writing Richard Nixon into the history books with his checkbooks and crooked schemes? None other than Howard Hughes., the God Father of Southern California, Hollywood, Las Vegas and the Bahamas.

What are Howard Hughes motives?

As a teenager, Howard Robard Hughes declared that his goals in life were to become the world's best golfer, the world's best pilot and the world's best movie producer. Source www.history.co.uk...

Hughes is also a well documented anti-Communist. The Soviets were making first in space achievements at an embarrassing pace between 1957-1966. Almost 9 years of Communists propaganda victories. America was falling behind.

I don't think Hughes really hates Communists. But he hated Communists because it was good business.

Hughes, in 1957, breaks with his long, long, long term business buddy Noah Dietrich. Dietrich had been with Hughes since 1925. Who does Hughes bring close to him between 1957 and 1960? Robert Maheu. He's a G-man. He parties with astronauts and he admits to his CIA involvement in the poison-pill plan to assassinate Fidel Castro. This was Howard Hughes' #2 man. Hughes never saw Maheu face to face.

Hughes also enjoyed the leisure-class sport of having a good opportunity to fleece the federal government out of hundreds of millions of dollars... in Flying boats, in spy planes, radar systems, lunar landers and clandestine satellites.

What does Howard Hughes know about managing a production like Nixon's Apollo? Everything there is to know. The money, the special effects and most importantly, the scripts. And the real-test-pilot-actors who were chosen, carefully and specifically, to be Tv stars and magazine idols... idolized before they even launched into space.

Richard Nixon's motives are multi-fold: arrogance of power & control, willing to break all the rules to "win" politically, because "winning" is all that matters to him. And knocking off the Kennedy boys. And Nixon's love of the movies.

Howard Hughes motives are multi-fold as well: pique, caprice and whim. Hughes' selfish desire to become the best movie producer of all time. He is Mr. Big, after all.

Well, it's nice to meet another Nixon fan on ATS.

Originally posted by Hopechest
I've studied Nixon in-depth and have never seen any benefit he received from the Apollo moon missions.

Nixon used, appropriately, the Apollo 11 moon landing for propaganda purposes. Nixon (and Frank Borman) used the public record of this 'historical event' to broadcast it around the world, live. He sent Agnew to hand out moon rocks to third world dictators. And the astronauts went on world tours in windowless 747's. All propaganda. All the time.




In March of 1972 Nixon marched to China on Howard Hughes orders and with 5 Apollo's under his belt.

Nixon explained to Chou En-Lai and Chairman Mao that America had been to the Moon 5 times and there is nothing up there worth finding. Not even water. He convinced the Chinese that it's too expensive and there is nothing interesting up there to see.

Nixon's trip to China, as the American Conqueror of Space and the Moon, obviously contributed to his massive landslide re-election in November '72. Didn't it?


During his presidency, Nixon had been "catching up" on some movies. He screened well over 500+ movies while he was in office. Was he really watching this many movies or could these movies be a secret channel of communication between Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon?
blogs.telegraph.co.uk...

www.press.uchicago.edu...

I'm reading Mark Feeney's book right now. It's very good. But it doesn't go as far as linking Howard Hughes to Richard Nixon -- and that is a great flaw of the book. Howard and Dick were linked in delicate financial relations. it's a fact. And it is also a fact that Richard Nixon watched several of the Howard Hughes productions... including the Howard Hughes produced, John Wayne joke on himself, Hollywood turkey gobbler, The Conqueror. John Wayne complained about his part in that movie and the quirky production... but he still took the money. Like a good American always does. Just playing the part. And that's yet another key to unlocking Nixon's Apollo. Playing parts for money. (See Howard Hughes 2nd film, "Everybody's Acting")

Money. Who has it.. Who wants it... And... how do they get it? Take a look at Nixon and Hughes. They are not crooks.

They are movie producers.

So far so good. Very compelling and interesting thread.

Although there's no evidence that President Nixon ever met Hughes, the two went way back. In 1956, when Nixon was Dwight Eisenhower's vice president, Hughes made a controversial $205,000 loan to Nixon's businessman brother, Donald. It raised eyebrows, because for years, Hughes had been a major defense contractor, doing business with the government. Even a Hughes confidante would later say: "The whole thing had a bad smell to it."

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