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One local folktale told of giants living on the island, who probably had the physical means to carry the heavy logs and build the walls. Another legend tells the story of two brothers named Olosopha and Olosipha, who used their magic powers to transport the logs from a far-away land by making them fly.
Another tale tells of a magician, who, like the two brothers, made the logs fly towards Nan Madol for the city to be constructed. All these local accounts tell of the basalt logs coming from a far-away place because there was no other source of basalt stones near Nan Madol, except in a location on the opposite side of the island.
While the figures appeared to be of ancient origin, their depictions were quite controversial and began to attract attention among skeptics in the scientific community. The Acámbaro figures portrayed not only dinosaurs but also unknown animals as well as those that had long been extinct. The figures also included camels and other animals not known to the area, as well as depictions of faraway cultures.
In 1972, carbon-14 analysis was made of various figures kept at the Museum of Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia. Laboratory tests showed that the objects were 5,000 years old. Four years beforehand at Isotopes Inc. in New Jersey, thermo-luminosity tests revealed that the approximate age was around 6,000 to 1,500 years old.
The archeologist and the regional director of the Acámbaro National Museum of Archeology enlisted various authorities to testify to the authenticity of the figures, including the paleontologist at the EUA Natural History Museum, naturalist Dr. Gaylord Simpson; Ivan T. Sanderson; and attorney/criminologist Erle Gardner.
“Chuvyrov, being a physicist, noted “…the relief has not been manually made by an ancient stonecutter. It is simply impossible. It is obvious that the stone was machined." X-ray photographs confirmed the slab was of artificial origin and had been made with precision tools.
The longer the slab was studied, the more mysterious it became. There were two 500-metre-wide channel systems, 12 dams, 300-500 meters wide, approximately 10 km long and 3 km deep each. In comparison, modern day irrigation systems would appear to be mere scratches on one of today’s relief maps. It was obvious the map had been created for aerial navigation as there were no roads or highways.
But, there were no airplanes at the time it was made…was there? According to Chuvyrov, to produce such an intricately designed map would require a super computer. So, who created this map, extraterrestrials? Not wanting to be identified as UFO “wack job,” Chuvyrov decided to call the stone the “Map of the Creator.” Chuvyrov also expressed doubts as to whether even today’s sophisticated cartographers could make a three dimensional map of equal caliber.
The object is covered with a thick layer of aluminum oxide. After the analysis of this layer, the specialist affirmed that the object is at least 300 to 400 years old.
This result puzzled the researchers because pure aluminum was not readily obtainable until the middle of the 19th century.
Other specialists claim that the object could be 20,000 years old because it was found in a layer with mastodon bone. Perhaps this particular specimen lived in the latter part of the Pleistocene.
Some researchers suppose that this piece of metal was part of a flying object that had fallen into the river. They presume that it had an extraterrestrial origin. Other researchers affirm that it was made on Earth and was part of a tool. The purpose of this tool is unknown.
"I expect any day now for Pravda to come out with news about the "good will tour of Bat Boy"
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Byrd simply points out that the 'Map of The Creator' is never compared to actual maps of the region that it is supposed to reflect (the Urals), and that the maps that are used never show the mountains. What is missing from the so called 'Map of The Creator' is the "central core of higher "mountains"" or any variation in relief at all; 'The Map of The Creator' shows one uniform height and even if it were a map, can't possibly have been meant to reflect the region suggested by pravda.ru. The Map of The Creator is pareidolia porn for wishful cartography geeks. Beyond that, as Byrd has also pointed out, the thing has seashells stuck in it, "That's a fragment of the ancient coastal seabed, as further evidenced by the fossil shell (there's at least one) embedded in it."
From the OP:
Could these figurines indicate that humans once walked with dinosaurs? Or are they simply the fabrication of a gifted hoaxer? I leave that decision to you, ATS.
Archaeologist Charles C. Di Peso was working for the Amerind Foundation, an anthropological organization dedicated to preserving Native American culture. Di Peso examined the figures and determined that they were not authentic, and had instead been produced by local modern-day farmers.
He concluded that the figurines were indeed fakes: their surfaces displayed no signs of age; no dirt was packed into their crevices; and though some figurines were broken, no pieces were missing and no broken surfaces were worn.
Furthermore, the excavation’s stratigraphy clearly showed that the artifacts were placed in a recently dug hole filled with a mixture of the surrounding archaeological layers. (ed. Oops!)
DiPeso also learned that a local family had been making and selling these figurines to Julsrud for a peso apiece since 1944, presumably inspired by films shown at Acámbaro’s cinema, locally available comic books and newspapers, and accessible day trips to Mexico City’s Museo Nacional.
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Charles Hapgood, pioneer of pole shift theory, became one of the figures' most high profile and devout supporters.
-Same Article
Originally posted by smyleegrl
reply to post by Bybyots
Maybe it's my crappy memory. Can't believe I didn't connect Hapgood with the ancient maps Hapgood.
There isn't a face palm big enough for this one. Uggggghhhhh.
Feeling pretty idiotic at the moment.
Originally posted by Bybyots
reply to post by smyleegrl
Wow,
smyleegrl, that's amazing; how did you manage to produce this thread and the 'Ancient Maps That Shouldn't Exist' thread and not know who Charles Hapgood is?
I went to find the book that you mentioned that inspired the map thread, Earth's Forbidden Secrets; it mentions Hapgood, and in fact, you had to mention Hapgood yourself in the thread in order to introduce the Orontius Finaeus Map, which was discovered by Hapgood.
Hapgood is the one person in your map thread that ties together all of the maps, and he is also connected to the hoaxed Acámbaro figurines in this thread.
If you had not insisted that your reading has been limited to the Maxwell Igan, I would say that you are reading Childress, Hapgood and Cremo.
To answer your question, yes, Hapgood is considered to be very controversial due to his beliefs in polar shift, the weird maps he used to try and prove it, and the Acámbaro figurines, amongst other things.
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
Originally posted by smyleegrl
reply to post by Bybyots
Maybe it's my crappy memory. Can't believe I didn't connect Hapgood with the ancient maps Hapgood.
There isn't a face palm big enough for this one. Uggggghhhhh.
Feeling pretty idiotic at the moment.
It is well worth taking the time to utilise the search function and read the existing threads on ATS. I spent about the first two years of my membership doing just that. There is an incredible wealth of information on here, and some incredible research and collaboration by members from the days when that was what formed the backbone of the site and what set this site apart from others. Personally I think it is far better to bump and give credit where it is due, than to be an empty vessel that makes noise. Each to their own though