China is now voicing what they think of Un.

In the past few days and hours China is now voicing their opinion of little Un and his madness, below will be a few links with the opening statements, this might be long ,[depends on how many links or how tired I get]
www.china.org.cn... from the link

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Just how dangerous is North Korea?

By Giovanni Vimercati
1 Comment(s)Print E-mail China.org.cn, April 7, 2013

now you know where from and by whom and this is what was said

The situation in the Asia-Pacific has been quite tense as of late. On the one side, North Korea is an historical ally of China; yet on the other hand, given the tactless vagaries the hermit nation specialises in, it may also turn into a liability. The asset North Korea represents to China is chiefly strategic: A buffer state warding off any American hegemony in the Asia-Pacific. But then again who wants to engage in an armed conflict against the U.S. on China’s doorstep? Only Kim Jong-un – as far as we know, that is.

not nice words for Un from one China news source here is one I posted on a other thread but worth re-posting- link
www.microsofttranslator.com... from it, is this

Editorials

Mozambican air of tension in the Korean peninsula

Key to the solution of the situation on the Korean peninsula, responsible attitude is not made use of, the chestnuts out of, but builders ' attitude of the parties involved in the cause of peace. China will not sit idly by the DPRK insists on sliding into the abyss of war.

and then this from an other link in the link above

XI Jinping on Sunday when China delivered a speech at a business forum, ally North Korea issue the implicit condemnation of China. Dozens of countries from Asia, Africa and Europe attending the Boao Forum for Asia.

"No messing one up for yourself and the world," XI said, he did not name specific countries point out. "Countries, big or small, strong or weak, rich or poor, should be the defender and promoter of peace. ”

These statements imply China North Korea's belligerence and several weeks of clamour growing tired of the war. At the same time, United States military officials told Reuters (Reuters) said, given the tensions between North Korea, the United States decided to postpone next week's missile test, "to avoid any misunderstanding or misjudgment."

that was from here www.microsofttranslator.com...
There are others but you should get the idea that China is now backing away from and telling Un knock it off or else.
This does not mean we have the green light to make a Preemptive strike on Un er DPRK

China seems to be tiring of Un, his remarks, and actions. There are other links and threads, about Un DPRK their Nukes.ect,ect,ect, but I will not post nor put a link to them.

I want to keep this on China and how they are, or will react to Un,when he does the next move..,ie. missile launch, or nuke test, and or both.
It is late and my eyes are getting heavy, I will leave you with this english.chosun.com... from the link

There Is No Point Sending a Special Envoy to N.Korea

Rep. Moon Hee-sang of main opposition Democratic United Party on Friday proposed on dispatching a special envoy to North Korea to attempt to defuse mounting tensions. Moon recommended former U.S. president Bill Clinton and DUP lawmakers Park Jie-won or Moon Sung-keun as possible candidates. Even a small minority in the ruling Saenuri Party backed the proposal.

But one thing that is clear is that North Korea is solely responsible for the "crisis" that has gripped the Korean Peninsula. It has mounted one provocation after another, starting with the launch of a long-range rocket, followed by a nuclear test and daily threats of a nuclear attack.

It is a standard tactic for a regime that cannot survive without outside help to try and grab the attention of the international community by any means possible. But the tactic is liable to produce diminishing returns and requires constant raising of the stakes. Pyongyang is now trying to scare South Korean workers out of the inter-Korean Kaesong Industrial Complex and has warned foreign diplomatic missions to evacuate by Wednesday.

By now South Korea, the U.S., China, Japan and Russia all know what Pyongyang is aiming for. It offered "assistance" for diplomatic missions in evacuating their personnel out of Pyongyang, but the U.K. dismissed it as "rhetoric" and the Russian and Brazilian embassies said there are no signs of an impending emergency.

wonder what they will say come the 10th, wonder if they have the same response.
I do not intend to have this as a Propaganda , nor a "lets here it for china" thread.
this is just to see if China is once and for all done with DPRK and Un, or will they come to the aid of Un when it becomes time, this is still unknown and it is just opinions and editorials, no official word as of yet, but seeing it in the news, is a plus, and should be of historic value.

So even China are sick of his bs now. It's about time.

Thank Goodness.

Of course China will disapprove of North Korea's words and actions. China is pulling North Korea's strings. If China condemns North Korea, it creates the illusion that China is not in control of North Korea, and therefore not responsible for North Korea's actions. China will sit back and let North Korea do all of their dirty work. Israel and USA have a similar relationship.

sounds like a trap...

CHINA will never allow the USA to gain control of the Korean peninsula. China do not want the USA on their border so close to its main cities.

China will never let NKOREA go, it might conduct a coup and replace the leader but it wont let the us destroy/take over.

reply to post by avatar01
No i do not think so, if they did, then he Un DPRK does have nukes and a few 1000 ICBM's. for he is at the front door to China.
China is not pulling strings on Un.

Un er DPRK is their own country If Un does a Missile test or a Nukes test when China says not too, that should tell you right there, China has no control over Un or the DPRK

I don't think the speech implies anything about DPRK. To me it sounded like a warning to the USA to stand for peace instead of endless greed. Why else wouldn't they name any particular country?

reply to post by Agit8dChop
Your right China would not, but Chain could do as you stated take over DPRK, and this is what i think will happen as soon as Un make the move to launch or nuke test China will come in to handle them er him. and we do not have to do a thing but watch.

reply to post by avatar01

With all due respect: even with a lot of theories and reasons to believe China may be "pulling strings," I am not buying into a Chinese - Kin-Jung-Un conspiracy. My wife is a Shanghi born ex-pat living in Virgina, and as I type, I hear her watching Chinese soap opera's online. She says "the Chinese people don't care about North Korea. There is very little news about North Korea. Why do you care about it?" She says there is very little "social commentary" about it. For what that is worth.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
sounds like a trap...

CHINA will never allow the USA to gain control of the Korean peninsula. China do not want the USA on their border so close to its main cities.

China will never let NKOREA go, it might conduct a coup and replace the leader but it wont let the us destroy/take over.

The usual pattern among Americans is to think China's motivations are the same as Americans are when in reality the only time they are is when they are doing so only to throw Westerners of their real game.

reply to post by penninja


Again, only for what it is worth, but she told me that people in Shanghai and Beijing are "money oriented." They want the good life. They do what makes them more comfortable. There is not gain for them in attacking the US. They want to sell us more stuff. My experiences in dealing with Chinese people on Alibaba support this 100%. I just don't see them wanting to slaughter their golden goose. Oh, and I am by no means a China shill. I am a fourth generation American Patriot, gun clinging liberatarian. But, some of their women are pretty cute... : )

A united Korea is likely some strong competition for Chinas manufacturing......maybe China wants to keep the situation status quo.....

This game of tug a war is getting old, we need some resolution. Not saying Nuclear but theres gotta more that nk just being mad at the us.

I am a little wary of China just because of the fact that they appear to be becoming more materialistic as a nation. I mean they are getting a taste of the good life and more power to them for that. But as with their doings with austrailia and other countries they appear to be trying to ween themselves off the U.S. Dollar which makes us a liability to them. I am not sure if China would do anything to hurt us, but I wholeheartedly think if we did a preemptive strike on NK that would be the straw that broke the camels back for us.

China is in a win-win situation, whether there is a war or not. Just by agitating the US is fun and productive enough for them.

They have the largest army nearby just waiting to pounce, in case something goes awry. They don't have to fight the Americans when the NK is the bait to lure in the Americans into a protracted war and then they will do a once in a 60 years sleight-of-hand and get their much coveted Sea of Japan's naval ports.


This is part of the Chinese battle stratagem.

reply to post by mypan


If China wants a war, its press releases would be exactly as they are.

If it is the US that wants a war, China's press releases would be exactly as they are.

If it is NK that wants a war, China's press releases would be exactly as they are.

In other words, all the MSM reporting from all parties would still be the same.

Don't read too much into it.

I agree, whomever starts this, China will finish it only this time they will march in as the peace keeper, isolating combatants (with a few accidents here and there), getting a hold of a lot of US high tech (a few more accidents) and installing a righteously elected Korean (puppet) Government.

The slogan will probably be 'A Unified Korea for Koreans brought to you by peace loving China.'

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reply to post by pheonix358


Even if China did march in as a peacekeeper, it'd only be in the North...so not seeing how the slogan would fit, but otherwise, I'd agree with everything you said there.

I don't believe the Chinese really want to be involved at all though, except to ensure that NK remains a buffer. They may be ok with a unified Korea, but only IF the US troops go, and I doubt that will happen either.

I constantly hear the "buffer" argument.

"Buffer" somehow implies stability and less confrontation between China/West....but in REALITY the exact opposite is the case, this "buffer" causing tensions and "almost wars" for decades.

Even in the scenario of K getting unified under Western influence, it would still be MUCH better than having in-stable NK at the border, IMHO.

I really think that "buffer" theory is overrated/wrong. China didn't need a buffer when HongKong was still British, both did fine at the time. Either way, with NK being all Chinese or entire K being united under Western influence, the outcome is better than this alleged "buffer", IMO. Do you really think China sees the NK "buffer" as something positive?

reply to post by flexy123


They used to...but as usual, China's goals now are known only to China. As a nation, they always had the best poker face.

If Lil' Kim was really causing them a lot of trouble, he'd have been assassinated by now, and a China-friendly General installed as leader of the coup. I think their goal is to try and get the situation back down to a simmer, instead of a rolling boil.

At this point China is just admitting they have little to no conrtrol over the North anymore and will not be held responsible for its actions. China has been losing control over the North for awhile as it got more and more cozy with the US. Now everything China has depends on trade with the West. North Korea has become a liability and even a threat to that trade. In many ways it seems the new China wants to devest itself of North Korea. Turning on them in the UN, speaking out against them and the fact their leaders have never met are cear signs that the North has lost any value as an asset. 1 year of trade with the West is worth more than anything North Korea can offer.