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Originally posted by Tardacus
Originally posted by Deetermined
John 18:36
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
He answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)
This is exactly like that riddle in which two men are seated in a room, one man never tells the truth and the other one never lies and we have to figure out which one is which.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by DarknStormy
I've got a good question for all you self proclaimed Bible scholars.. How was it that it took Moses and his mob 40 years to make a 1 week trip by foot to the Holyland? Did they read their map wrong or something?
It's a well-kept secret, but Moses was the father of what is now called NASCAR. Repeated left turns can really screw you up. And "God"...well, it looks like "God" has more in common with the Homo Sapiens than he likes to admit. Even he couldn't bear to change the channel. Maybe he put gold on the camel with the skin condition.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Tardacus
This is exactly like that riddle in which two men are seated in a room, one man never tells the truth and the other one never lies and we have to figure out which one is which.
Exactly. That's why the Bible frequently uses the terms "those who have eyes to see, see" and "those who have ears to hear, hear". (Referring to using the Holy Spirit to determine the difference between the two.)
This is exactly like that riddle in which two men are seated in a room, one man never tells the truth and the other one never lies and we have to figure out which one is which.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by Tardacus
Originally posted by Deetermined
John 18:36
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
John 14:2-3
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
He answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)
Without coming out and telling them that they missed their chance, as shown in John 18:36 when Jesus said, "But now my kingdom is from another place" since you rejected me, he just simply tells them that the kingdom of God is within you, meaning to hold him in their hearts until he decides to come back for them because they're not going to witness it in their lifetime due to their unbelief. IMO
Originally posted by Deetermined
Are you talking about this verse?
Matthew 16:28
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Jesus was talking about his resurrection.
shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom....
The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there!
Non believers can`t have the holy spirit, you have to repent AND be baptised to receive the holy spirit so your saying that non believers have no hope of ever be able to discern the truth of who the real god is and become believers.
jesus clearly and unambiguously said that his kingdom is not of this world it is of another place,
If the kingdom of god cometh not with observation then how will they be able "see" the son of man coming in his kingdom?
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by arpgme
...Now your feeble understanding of the wisdom of God and why Jesus allows what he allows can be improved by actually reading the Bible and get the picture of what God is doing and not trying to pick it apart .
People who think that would be wrong, in my opinion.
. . . Jesus Christ is supposed to be the only begotten son of the most high god (Yahweh) . . .
Originally posted by templar knight
...why did God even allow Jesus to do "Miracles"? What is the purpose of a "miracle"? I struggle with this as people can be good people (Ghandi) without performing miracles ..
"Go tell John the things which ye hear and see: the blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good tidings preached to them" ~ Matt. 11:3-5
"Perhaps the most compelling of evidences demonstrating that the Bible is the word of God is its unswerving ability to accurately predict future events, often in minute details. Specific prophesies are conspicuously absent from the 26 other religious books that claim to be scripture, including the Muslim's Koran, the Book of Mormon, the Hindu Vedas, and Buddhist writings. This in itself should be a major eye-opener to the honest skeptic. "
Accuracy Of Prophecy
Originally posted by templar knight
...why did God even allow Jesus to do "Miracles"? What is the purpose of a "miracle"? I struggle with this as people can be good people (Ghandi) without performing miracles ..
During his period as a law student in London, he joined the Theosophical Society and may have been recruited by MI-6. Ghandi was assassinated because he was an Illuminati agent who had betrayed the Hindu cause. As a Freemason employed by MI6, Gandhi's main role was to partition India in order to set it up for future conflict.
His London Diary recorded this period in his life, but all but 20 pages have mysteriously disappeared. The surviving pages actually describe Gandhi's initiation to the Third Degree of Freemasonry in coded language, something only a Freemason scholar would notice.
Was Mahatma Gandhi an Illuminati Pawn?
He is well known everywhere and he is depicted as an angel who has thrown away the British from the Indian sub continent. One of the most common and most dangerous myths about Gandhi is that he was a saint. The name—or rather, the title—Mahatma itself means "Great Soul." That's somewhere between a saint and a Messiah.
Well, I must tell you that in all my readings of and about Gandhi, I've never come across anything to say that Gandhi was a master of meditation, or that he meditated at all—aside from observing a minute of silence at the beginning of his prayer meetings, a practice he said he borrowed from the Quakers.
Gandhi hated Black people. Only a few scholars are aware of this background. In 1906 Gandhi had participated in a war against Blacks. The Gandhian literature either keeps quiet on the subject or tries to paint him as a great humanitarian who actually helped Blacks by rendering to them urgent medical care. Had he not done so, we are told, many Blacks would have died. While researching the historical documents, however, I found that Gandhi's participation had nothing to do with "humanitarian concerns" for Black people.
HERE ARE SOME FACTS ABOUT THE SPY GANDHI
Kallenback was told by Rothschild to befriend Gandhi, who was then working in South Africa. In 1910 , on Rothchild’s orders Kallenbach, donated to Gandhi his 1100 acre (4 km²) farm near Johannesburg.
The farm was used to run Gandhi's famous "Tolstoy Farm" that housed the families of his satyagrahis. Kallenbach himself named this farm after Leo Tolstoy. Kallenback's task was to brainwash Gandhi into non-violence to fight the enemy.
Rothschild made Tolstoy brainwash young and gullible Mohandas Gandhi with the idea of nonviolent resistance... So Gandhi and Kallenbach lived together for two years as soul mates, starting from 1907.. during this period Gandhi was prepared for the "great Indian show".
RE-WRITING INDIAN HISTORY
Indian Government Spends $1.3 Million To Stop Auction Of Gandhi Letters That May Show He Was Gay
Theosophist Mahatma Gandhi
Gandhi was a British Agent and brought from SA by British to sabotage India’sFreedom struggle
Originally posted by Lionhearte
Because the enemy will tell you a thousand truths to get you to believe just one lie. Christ will not lie to you at all, instead will simply tell you all the truth - it is our choice if we want to accept it or not. Because Christ "failed" to create peace, it is obvious the fault lies not with Christ, but with man.
Originally posted by Deetermined
It was their punishment from God for their disobedience and unbelief.
www.bcfworld.org...
Originally posted by Murgatroid
History is nothing but LIES and has been erased and tampered with throughout history.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by arpgme
People who think that would be wrong, in my opinion.
. . . Jesus Christ is supposed to be the only begotten son of the most high god (Yahweh) . . .
The New Testament never uses that name and actually gives to Jesus all the titles that the Jews had conferred onto their version of God (Yahweh).
Jesus presented a new version of God, and that is who Christians believe in, not the god believed in by the people who killed Jesus.
Then god is a LIAR who does not believe in free-will.
"Yahweh" is a made-up name by the writers of the Old Testament.
In my opinion, Jesus said he WAS Yahweh when he said, "I am he".
"Yahweh" is a made-up name by the writers of the Old Testament.