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Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by NorEaster
reply to post by ImaFungi
All I know is that if you have to invent an impossible "always" of any kind, just to make your theory work, then you're better off spending that creativity and effort on a new theory. No theory should need the invention of impossible "always" things in order to not contradict themselves.
Yea well. Do you think mass exists? What is it? How does it exist? What caused it to exist?
Look at H2O molecules as they move around - under a microscope, I suppose. Maybe you can fit two or three within the entire field of view, and there's plenty of room between them. Doesn't look solid. Then you back it up - way up - like 200 feet up and there's a pond where those water molecules were, and it looks pretty much like a "mass" as it lays there and reflects the sky behind you.
Mass is defined by the perception interpretation of the human being defining it. All of material existence is a matter of perspective and relative context. Does mass exist? Yeah, it does. What causes it to exist? The confluence of the quantum of action, holon structure, and the existential imperative that is Identity survival.
No Higgs Field required.
Can you post a real photo of an h20 molecule if you can find one.
Well the mystery of mass is really the mystery of "stuff". Where the heck did all this real stuff come from and why is there so much of it. 5 gram iron ball has less mass then a 10 gram iron ball because the 10 gram iron ball has twice as many atoms? Its the mystery of where the tiniest stuff, as stable as it is, gets/got its energy level from/mass. The mystery of mass is the mystery of the quantity of the universe, where it all comes from and how it was made to exist.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by NorEaster
ok that traffic analogy is good... atoms and subatomic particles of atoms can be seen like moving quantities that from our perception appear solid.. are you suggesting mass is an illusion and nothing exists?
Originally posted by NorEaster
Confluences exist. They just don't persist as concrete and unchanged. Mass is a perception interpretation of an activity confluence that's made by the perceiving human mind. That's not surprising, though. The human brain is also an activity confluence, and so is every bit of the human material body. We tend to project how we view ourselves upon everything else that seems similar to us, and we view ourselves as solid and materially concrete.