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Originally posted by Helious
As we have been slowly getting used to violations since the patriot act and witnessed the obvious violations of the 4th amendment by the TSA, "Safety Checks" or roadblocks if you wan't to be honest about it and now we are told there will be Constitution free zones which will affect more Americans that not, we are left to wonder how else they are starting to compile data, surveillance and intel that we are not aware of in direct violation of our freedoms.
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
oh yeah, I'm gonna murder the guy down the street because some internet thread tells me obama is a socialist tyrant kenyan muslim
wtf ?
makes no sense dude
john haber made the same mistake
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by Helious
As we have been slowly getting used to violations since the patriot act and witnessed the obvious violations of the 4th amendment by the TSA, "Safety Checks" or roadblocks if you wan't to be honest about it and now we are told there will be Constitution free zones which will affect more Americans that not, we are left to wonder how else they are starting to compile data, surveillance and intel that we are not aware of in direct violation of our freedoms.
The 4th amendment stops unreasonable searches and seizures. Reasonable searches are not violations of the 4th amendment.
"there will be Constitution free zones" wtf are you talking about?
the NDAA doesn't actually allow the indefinite detention of Americans, like CTs keep saying.
I really don't see how you can make the claim our rights are eroding.
Originally posted by olaru12
reply to post by Helious
A revolution/civil war needs leaders. Who has the guts to step up and say "Follow Me"
ATS keyboard warriors?..............
Originally posted by Helious
Originally posted by olaru12
reply to post by Helious
A revolution/civil war needs leaders. Who has the guts to step up and say "Follow Me"
ATS keyboard warriors?..............
No, a revolution doesn't need a leader to start, only to finish. They would emerge, make no mistake.
Originally posted by olaru12
Originally posted by Helious
Originally posted by olaru12
reply to post by Helious
A revolution/civil war needs leaders. Who has the guts to step up and say "Follow Me"
ATS keyboard warriors?..............
No, a revolution doesn't need a leader to start, only to finish. They would emerge, make no mistake.
Then it wouldn't be a cluster **** destined to be an armed mob looking for scapegoats, easily taken care of by tptb.
Originally posted by Helious
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by Helious
As we have been slowly getting used to violations since the patriot act and witnessed the obvious violations of the 4th amendment by the TSA, "Safety Checks" or roadblocks if you wan't to be honest about it and now we are told there will be Constitution free zones which will affect more Americans that not, we are left to wonder how else they are starting to compile data, surveillance and intel that we are not aware of in direct violation of our freedoms.
The 4th amendment stops unreasonable searches and seizures. Reasonable searches are not violations of the 4th amendment.
"there will be Constitution free zones" wtf are you talking about?
the NDAA doesn't actually allow the indefinite detention of Americans, like CTs keep saying.
I really don't see how you can make the claim our rights are eroding.
Do you read the news? CONSTITUTION FREE ZONE
The NDAA does actually allow the indefinite detention of Americans. And yes, the POTUS can authorize you be killed with a drone if it is decided you are an eminent threat to the United States and are deemed to be "affiliated" with a "terrorist" group. Without due process of law. If you dispute this, show me why your right.
You really can't see how our rights are eroding? Well, thats too bad for you isn't it. Continue on!
“requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
As soon as they have charged you, even with suspicion, you are fresh meat for all the government agents that care to drop a bomb on you.
Originally posted by byGRACE
I agree if anything every American should be asking why, why do my elected officials want to infringe my rights after taking and spending my money? Is it really in my best interest?
First off, your tone is boorish. You aren't going to get many people who don't already believe you to join your cause talking like that.
Why they aren't really constitution free zones. That "Constitution Free zones" isn't really true. What was really going on was misrepresented by the ACLU. The ACLU has been considered a joke for some time now.
No, the NDAA does not allow it. I don't care how many times it's said on this site. It's just not true.
Originally posted by olaru12
There will be no revolution; there may however be a coup from inside but usually you just trade one tyrant for another.
Originally posted by jcarpenter
Originally posted by olaru12
There will be no revolution; there may however be a coup from inside but usually you just trade one tyrant for another.
The first inside coup took place on November 22, 1963. The coup de grâce was also an inside job and was initiated on 9/11/2001.
Tyrants (gangsters by any other name) are running our country.