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Originally posted by AshOnMyTomatoes
reply to post by Hopechest
This is the second time I've seen this argument in the bee death threads, and its really a pointless thing to say. There also didn't used to be 600,000,000 people in North America dependent on industrial agriculture to survive.
Originally posted by Hopechest
If bees die off it won't change a thing,
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
Very sad, and sadder day coming when people do realize,
by way of food shortages.
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by Hopechest
If bees die off it won't change a thing,
Where are you getting your information from? Fairy tales?
A global survey of several studies demonstrated a severe decline of pollinators and provision of pollination services in a wide range of intensively managed temperate and tropical agroecosystems. Considering that global crop production worth 153 billion Euros (for Europe 22 billion Euros) relies on insect pollination, the pollinators' decline has direct impact on the stability of food production and consumer prices, and might also have serious consequences for human health.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Hopechest
Bees are managed pollinator and their decline can be measured. But all pollinators are dying.
A global survey of several studies demonstrated a severe decline of pollinators and provision of pollination services in a wide range of intensively managed temperate and tropical agroecosystems. Considering that global crop production worth 153 billion Euros (for Europe 22 billion Euros) relies on insect pollination, the pollinators' decline has direct impact on the stability of food production and consumer prices, and might also have serious consequences for human health.
www.sciencedaily.com...
Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by nerbot
Originally posted by Hopechest
Why do you care if the bees die?
Its sad I guess because they are cute but not the end of the world. They are just an insect.
PLEASE READ AND DO SOME RESEARCH.
If there are no bees, not enough plants get pollinated. If plants can't reproduce there is no food. If there is no food we die. All of us.
Well that's really odd isn't it. Considering the fact that honey bees are not indigenous to North America and were not introduced until the 17th century by the British I wonder how in the world any plants got pollinated before that.
Boy there is a conspiracy you should figure out.
lol
After being exposed to Bt, many insect populations actually mutated to resist the biopesticide. So far at least 8 insect populations have developed resistance, with 2 populations resistant to Bt sprays and at least 6 species resistant to Bt crops as a whole. Farmers are therefore forced to use even more pesticides to combat the resistant bugs.
Read more: naturalsociety.com...
It has also been divulged that Roundup is damaging other life outside of humans, shown to decrease the population of monarch butterflies by killing the very plants that the butterflies rely on for habitat and food. A 2011 study published in the journal Insect Conservation and Diversity found that increasing usage of genetically modified Roundup Ready corn and soybeans is significantly contributing to the decline in monarch butterfly populations within North America due to the destruction of milkweed.
Read more: naturalsociety.com...
Originally posted by Hopechest
I did not mean to prove this thread as totally incorrect, only one aspect of it.
Originally posted by AshOnMyTomatoes
reply to post by Hopechest
So you're saying we can rely on wild insects for the pollination of America's breadbasket? When agricultural honeybees are often farmed near crop farms in order to form a controlled, symbiotic relationship?
Originally posted by SilentKoala
I still have to wonder if Monsanto is behind this. Weren't they trying to genetically engineer a species of bee that only pollinates their crappy seedless GMO crops? It would be in their best interest to reduce the regular bee population. They are truly the most evil company in the world.
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Remembee, an anti-viral agent which its boosters claim will help stem the tide of Colony Collapse Disorder, a mysterious plague which has led to the disappearance of the bees in up to a third of the commercial colonies located in the U.S. during the last decade.
The root of the problem, however, may not be the virus targeted by Remembee, a chemical agent which utilizes RNA interference, a mechanism that blocks gene expression, but the herbicides and insecticides that agro-chemical giants like Monsanto, Dow and Bayer have themselves been hawking to farmers around the world.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Hopechest
Bees are managed pollinator and their decline can be measured. But all pollinators are dying.
A global survey of several studies demonstrated a severe decline of pollinators and provision of pollination services in a wide range of intensively managed temperate and tropical agroecosystems. Considering that global crop production worth 153 billion Euros (for Europe 22 billion Euros) relies on insect pollination, the pollinators' decline has direct impact on the stability of food production and consumer prices, and might also have serious consequences for human health.
www.sciencedaily.com...
And that's a very good point. If all the pollinators are dying that is certainly a reason for concern. I also understand that bees can be managed to pollinate crops and their loss would be hard to replace which would hurt crop yields.
My only argument was with the issue of plants dying off if the bees go, that simply won't happen although its obvious that humans would feel the effect from no longer having bees.
I did not mean to prove this thread as totally incorrect, only one aspect of it. I agree with you guys in general that it is a very serious issue and we should take steps to correct it. Its hard to keep farms up and running without bees doing their job.
"When you look at what's out there in the public press, the implication is that pollinators are all under threat, that there's some kind of mysterious decline across the board," says Sam Droege, a biologist at U.S. Geological Survey's (USGS) Patuxent Wildlife Research Center. "The problem is, there's really no data to show that either way."
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by Philippines
And higher food prices, as the price of honeybee colonies go up, and the so does
the price of food due to crop failures, and less production of commodities.