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Professor Dame Sally Davies said she was “perpetually surprised” homeopathy was provided on the NHS, and branded homeopaths “peddlers.” Giving evidence to the Commons Science and Technology committee, she also expressed fears about the prescription of homeopathic remedies to treat malaria and other illnesses.
‘I’m very concerned when homeopathic practitioners try to peddle this way of life to prevent malaria or other infectious disease,” she said.
“I am perpetually surprised that homeopathy is available on the NHS.” Dame Sally, who is England’s most senior doctor, concluded by remarking that homeopathy “is rubbish”.
The Telegraph
Originally posted by ollncasino
Homeopathic medicine is “rubbish” and is nothing more than a placebo, England’s chief medical officer has claimed.
Homeopathic medicine is “rubbish” and is nothing more than a placebo, England’s chief medical officer has claimed.
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by ollncasino
Homeopathic medicine is “rubbish” and is nothing more than a placebo, England’s chief medical officer has claimed.
A placebo huh so he is saying the body can heal itself without any medication... So what do we need his ass for?
yes, but, all 10 are going to take 'placebos', remember ?
10 people get sick. Not all 10 have the same immune system.
gotta love those rhetorical statements
You show ignorance.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
wait just a minute ... how do you figure this ??
yes, but, all 10 are going to take 'placebos', remember ?
10 people get sick. Not all 10 have the same immune system.
so, according to the study, all of them will have the same outcome as a specific homeopathic treatment
now, not only is that presumptious at best and completely false at worst ... it is completely misleading.
gotta love those rhetorical statements
You show ignorance.
Yes, hence the danger of homeopathic medicine. I am not sure how you do not understand. Homeopathetic remedies work as well as a packet of sugar. So if you have an illness you can recover from naturally, it may APPEAR to work. If you do not, you may simply die.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
i do understand.
homeopathic medicine is NOT dangerous
nor is it comparable to a placebo, regardless what this paid mouthpiece says.
it is all of the above because no 'study' was actually performed.
opinion is hardly a study and where's the source 'evidence' ??
in case you didn't read the OP, there is no 'study' included or a link to one.
it is an OPINION piece, nothing more.
rubber and glue, which are you ?
This finding is compatible with the notion that the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects.
A Swiss-UK review of 110 trials found no convincing evidence the treatment worked any better than a placebo.
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Yes, hence the danger of homeopathic medicine. I am not sure how you do not understand. Homeopathetic remedies work as well as a packet of sugar. So if you have an illness you can recover from naturally, it may APPEAR to work. If you do not, you may simply die.
Actually millions of people have been healed using homeopathy whether you believe they actually work or are just a placebo your chances are better with homeopathy then visiting a doctor since they are the 3rd leading cause of death. www.health-care-reform.net...
Seriously, you are delusional. This is an OPINION piece backed up by a STUDY. The study is mentioned in the OP even.
Are the clinical effects of homoeopathy placebo effects? Comparative study of placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy and allopathy
This finding is compatible with the notion that the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects.
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Seriously, you are delusional. This is an OPINION piece backed up by a STUDY. The study is mentioned in the OP even.
Are the clinical effects of homoeopathy placebo effects? Comparative study of placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy and allopathy
This finding is compatible with the notion that the clinical effects of homoeopathy are placebo effects.
This article is a joke there are no sources and if you click on the names of the panel at the top who suppsedly did the study it just links to the same article. it doesn't even list the data bases it claims it found all the trials in that is studied and it reads like a hit piece. Are we just supposed to take it word for it? ironically it claims it studied trials of homeopathy that show it does work. What trials are those? Who commissioned the study and why who paid for it etc. etc?
Now if you want to bring up 225,000 who die as a result of seeking medical treatment, you need to tell me how many are saved as well. I'll wait for you to look it up and feel embarassed.
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Now if you want to bring up 225,000 who die as a result of seeking medical treatment, you need to tell me how many are saved as well. I'll wait for you to look it up and feel embarassed.
There is no need to look it up it is subjective there is no way to tell if they were healed by a placebo effect anymore then homeopathy That fact the doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death and homeopathy is not even on the radar is all we need to know.
Most allopathic medicine does not heal period it just masks symptoms and more often then not causes more harm then good. Just watch late night TV and listen to the endless parade of commercials for law suites for all the harm they cause. Even the ads for new drugs spend more time listing the side effects then how the drug is supposed to help the supposed cure is worse then the illness...
Homeopathy like anything we put in the body is a form of energy that is communicating something. Anything you eat is communicating to the body to react in some way good or bad as are drugs and even sugar. However the mind is the most pervasive communicator to the body and is doing so 24/7 mostly subconsciously. The same power that created and animates the body can heal it also. Homeopathy is just another way to communicate with the body in a specific manner.
You have obviously never done any research work whatsoever. That is the summary. You will need access to a network that provides scientific journals/studies if you wish to see the full study. If you wish to blindly follow something do it, you are making yourself look like a fool though. They looked at over 100 trials.
You are completely invested in your delusion. We have actual scientific data which you ignore because you do not like what it says. That means our discussion is over, as it is not possible to have a rational discussion with an irrational zealot.
Originally posted by hawkiye So you pretend to know what I have done... Sigh! The summary doesn't say its a summery and doesn't even list the abstract or journals etc. like a said NO SOURCES!
And gee how convenient the academic cultists don't publish their journals on line for the pubic to see unless you are in their club... Sigh again.
And I don't "believe" anything I draw conclusions based on verifiable facts and evidence along with real world experience not cult worship of some supposed authority figures who can't even source their claims...
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by hawkiye So you pretend to know what I have done... Sigh! The summary doesn't say its a summery and doesn't even list the abstract or journals etc. like a said NO SOURCES!
And gee how convenient the academic cultists don't publish their journals on line for the pubic to see unless you are in their club... Sigh again.
And I don't "believe" anything I draw conclusions based on verifiable facts and evidence along with real world experience not cult worship of some supposed authority figures who can't even source their claims...
I really do not know how to respond .....
www.thelancet.com...(05)67177-2/abstract
The Lancet, Volume 366, Issue 9487, Pages 726 - 732, 27 August 2005
Summary
How do you miss the word SUMMARY in big red letters?
Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by hawkiye So you pretend to know what I have done... Sigh! The summary doesn't say its a summery and doesn't even list the abstract or journals etc. like a said NO SOURCES!
And gee how convenient the academic cultists don't publish their journals on line for the pubic to see unless you are in their club... Sigh again.
And I don't "believe" anything I draw conclusions based on verifiable facts and evidence along with real world experience not cult worship of some supposed authority figures who can't even source their claims...
I really do not know how to respond .....
Are the clinical effects of homoeopathy placebo effects? Comparative study of placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy and allopathy
The Lancet, Volume 366, Issue 9487, Pages 726 - 732, 27 August 2005
Summary
How do you miss the word SUMMARY in big red letters?
And still no verifiable sources!