Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops

Difference between hybrid and gmo:

What is GM food and what is the difference between genetically modified food and hybridization?

Genetic engineering is the process of breaking the natural boundaries that exist between species to produce new life forms that will produce a variety of desired traits. For example, genes from salmon can be spliced into tomatoes to make them more resistant to cold weather, thereby yielding a larger crop when the weather is less than favorable. Hybridization is the fertilization of the flower of one species by the pollen of another species-or artificial cross pollination (right?). .

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The problem folks have with GMOs is that scientists are creating completely new varieties of plants with genes having nothing to do with one another. Not only are they creating untested franken-plants, but the only known medium able to introduce newly created gene strands into a plant’s cell, is a virus or bacteria. So, this newly created plant using genes from any number of plants and/or animals is also being bombarded with viruses and bacteria
On the other hand, unlike GMOs, the process of creating a hybrid is a completely natural one that often happens in nature. Hybrid plants are created by cross-pollinating two closely related species of the same genus or two cultivars or varieties within the same species. What this means, is that swapping pollen from two closely related plants will create a new plant variety.

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reply to post by speculativeoptimist


Thanks Spec,

Yes, so many people do get very confused about Hybrid and GMO...
They are not the same at all, different worlds.

reply to post by burntheships

Who paid them to NOT grow food.

Agian the US government

Thats the point....there would be plenty of food, yes even it was grown organically.

No there would not.

The farmers were paid to NOT grow, and they threw food away to keep prices high, for the almighty figgin dollar!

Because of federal regulations

You know, the same Corporate Lords we have now, thanks to FDR!!!

Government overlords with their gestapo arms the FDA and EPA.

guess I will have to educate everyone,

Reallllllllllllllllly?

Rather arrogant comment.

reply to post by neo96


No, not really. Educate, thats what some one does when people are
lacking knowledge. To claim that GMO is the only way to feed people,
when GMO did not exist 20 years ago is just a lack of knowledge.

It would only be arrogant if someone is shown to be wrong, and then they
refuse to admit it.

In May 1933 the Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA) was passed. This act encouraged those who were still left in farming to grow fewer crops. Therefore, there would be less produce on the market and crop prices would rise thus benefiting the farmers – though not the consumers.

The AAA paid farmers to destroy some of their crops and farm animals. In 1933 alone, $100 million was paid out to cotton farmers to plough their crop back into the ground! Six million piglets were slaughtered by the government after it had bought them from the farmers. The meat was canned and given away for free to the unemployed. Though this all made perfect sense in terms of economically stabilising the farming market, many Americans could not accept this policy of destruction. Opponents of the New Deal created a simple chant for people to express their views on the AAA - "Poor Little Piggies".
www.historylearningsite.co.uk...

BTS am here reading , been with you since page one, just wanted to let you know, this thread has sent me in several directions from the links provided. Woke this am to check some of the seed I had bought but not used last year, they are trash.

reply to post by burntheships


Here is some education



Pay attention to the rise of GMO and the "organic" years.

We must be diligent from the sneaky tactics of using contaminated seed. Even seed stored in the same facilities as the contaminated seed is too risky imo. Hard to trust most sources.

reply to post by neo96


Sorry your sadly misinformed....

those years are the plague years, from GMO crop failure...
and 10 years of Round Up, and glycoshpate!

And by the way, a chart alone without a context of meaning ...does not cut it.
Sorry bro.

reply to post by antar


Yes, and seed from GMO plants will not grow....they are sterile which should be
a huge wealth of knowledge for some, yet somehow people think it makes more
sense to take good seed, contaminte it so it wont reproduce....

reply to post by burntheships


Sometimes you can get them to grow but they rarely reproduce the following year. So you could grow without expectation of outcome, seed from the previous year. (You know I am an organic grower by profession right?)

reply to post by antar


Antar,

Thanks for your comments, No I did not know that, how wonderful!
I have had the wonderful experience of being a gardener, its really
quite refreshing to see that seed does flourish with natures own
rich resources, with out the need for sytentic fertilizers, and chemcals!

Kudos to you! What is your specialty crop?

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by neo96

 

Sorry your sadly misinformed....

those years are the plague years, from GMO crop failure...
and 10 years of Round Up, and glycoshpate!

And by the way, a chart alone without a context of meaning ...does not cut it.
Sorry bro.

No considering I come from a long line of farmers and that chart has meaning that is being denied because of Bias.

The simple fact yields of crops have grown larger because of modification organic will never produce the yeilds we have today.

From 1860 bushel yield was 20 today it is over 300.

But what if they have added it resonantly?
I would bet they are adding poo! all the time.

reply to post by neo96


Neo,

Post some proof of your claims....
I cant debate with you if its just your opinion vs mine.

Thanks!

reply to post by burntheships


Debate eh?
Gmo is bad organic is good is hardly a "debate"

The chart isn't good enough so be it guess this won't be good enough either.

usda01.library.cornell.edu...

The only thing i have seen in this thread are opinions.

Source of that chart not that it will matter:

www.washingtonpost.com...

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by burntheships

 

Sometimes you can get them to grow but they rarely reproduce the following year. So you could grow without expectation of outcome, seed from the previous year. (You know I am an organic grower by profession right?)

edit on 22-1-2013 by antar because: (no reason given)

Where do you get your seeds?

On topic I despise what is being done to our food supply, and try to find and buy non GMO when I can, but it is dang hard. This thing about the viral gene might go a good ways to explain the viscous flu outbreak this year? We have no immune systems.

Sudden Death Syndrome is a serious plant disease, in many fields; A threat to the food supply world wide.

Investigators Baffled As Wheat Fields Wither

The Oregon Department of Agriculture and Oregon State University are investigating the yellowing of upward of 40,000 acres of wheat in Umatilla and Morrow counties. So far, the cause is a mystery

www.capitalpress.com...

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The latest reports out on several staple crops reveals the devastating and unprecedented impact that Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide is having on the health of our soil, and harvests.

Dr. Don Huber walked past a soybean field and noticed a distinct line separating severely diseased yellowing soybeans on the right from healthy green plants on the left (see photo). The yellow section was suffering from Sudden Death Syndrome (SDS), a serious plant disease that ravaged the Midwest in 2009 and ’10, driving down yields and profits. Something had caused that area of soybeans to be highly susceptible.

Don Huber spent 35 years as a plant pathologist at Purdue University and knows a lot about what causes green plants to turn yellow and die prematurely. He asked the seed dealer why the SDS was so severe in the one area of the field and not the other. “Did you plant something there last year that wasn’t planted in the rest of the field?” he asked. Sure enough, precisely where the severe SDS was, the dealer had grown alfalfa, which he later killed off at the end of the season by spraying a glyphosate-based herbicide (such as Roundup). The healthy part of the field, on the other hand, had been planted to sweet corn and hadn’t received glyphosate.

Sudden Death Syndrome is more severe at the ends of rows, where Roundup dose is strongest. Photo by Amy Bandy.
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This was yet another confirmation that Roundup was triggering SDS. In many fields, the evidence is even more obvious. The disease was most severe at the ends of rows where the herbicide applicator looped back to make another pass (see photo). That’s where extra Roundup was applied.

The diseased field on the right had glyphosate applied the previous season. Photo by Don Huber
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Wheat affected after 10 years of glyphosate field applications
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Study after study shows that not only is glyphosate contributing to the huge
increase in SDS but also to the outbreak of numerous other diseases. most likely
the culprit is the viral genes found in the GMO seed.
responsibletechnology.org...

What it does do is cause a unique perfect storm of conditions activating
disease causing organisms in the soil, while at the same time wiping out plant
defenses against those diseases!


eatdrinkbetter.com...

www.foodconsumer.org...

Originally posted by tnhiker

This thing about the viral gene might go a good ways to explain the viscous flu outbreak this year? We have no immune systems.

At least they are comprimised for sure, and they are messing with the flu virus each time
they create a new vaccine.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by burntheships

 

Debate eh?
Gmo is bad organic is good is hardly a "debate"

Well, I would agree with you there, its no contest.

Its hardly debateable, if a seed is sterile, what good is it.
You are aware that all GMO seed starts with non GMO crops, yes?

Because GMO crops produce seed that is sterile. So...think about it.

reply to post by burntheships


The issue is yield what "good" does it do to produce a few?

When there are billions to feed then think about the high cost of food now what do you think it will be then?

Mass production cheaper prices people think its bad now they aint seen nothing yet.