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Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by kaylaluv
So far, birthers and Obama-haters have been unable to provide one verifiable document that proves Obama is not from where he says he's from. This is why every birther case in court has been thrown out. Every. single. time.
Not. True. At. All.
The cases are dismissed on standing. It is a legal trick. See. You have to prove that you are personally injured to being a case to court. These courts, under pressure to dismiss no doubt, routinely find that the plaintiff does not have standing because they cannot prove that Obama caused injury to them personally. Or. The judge will say it is Congress' responsibility to do something about it, not the judicial branch.
So. None of these questions have been answered or even asked in a court of law. They have not been seen by juries either. They have been unilaterally dismissed by judges based on legal tricks.
Originally posted by kaylaluv
What I saw was the judge ruling that the "experts" were not convincing, and the evidence was "not persuasive".
Every three years, California lawyers are required to take a minimum of 25 hours of continuing education, including 4 hours of legal ethics and 1 hour of elimination of bias. And we have an excellent continuing education program. Now Orly apparently thinks that being a a typewriter salesman for 4 years qualifies one to testify as an expert witness. One of the books our continuing ed provider publishes is the Expert Witness Guide, which includes chapters on expert witness qualifications, how to prepare your expert witness, expert witness reports, etc. It doesn't look like she read it.
Originally posted by kaylaluv
So far, birthers and Obama-haters have been unable to provide one verifiable document that proves Obama is not from where he says he's from. This is why every birther case in court has been thrown out. Every. single. time.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Look at the long form BC. It's a forgery. Proven. By. Lots. Of. Experts.
Originally posted by VforVendettea
It doesn't matter at this point.
Is he eligible for the office that he holds- No he is not by so many different levels that I have stopped counting.
We don't have a choice in the matter,
Originally posted by happykat39
it still does not explain some of the images containing a typewriter type face that did not exist at the time the original document was supposedly filled out and filed.
Then you have the wrong name for the hospital listed that it was not known as until much later.
If you don't believe me and my information why should I believe any of yours without checking it out for myself.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by kaylaluv
So far, birthers and Obama-haters have been unable to provide one verifiable document that proves Obama is not from where he says he's from. This is why every birther case in court has been thrown out. Every. single. time.
Funny how Obama lovers ask for "documents that disprove" something. You mean like a document that says he wasn't born in Kenya? What would that be, a not-birth certificate?
Documents like that do not exist.
Look at the long form BC. It's a forgery. Proven. By. Lots. Of. Experts.
Originally posted by VforVendettea
It doesn't matter at this point.
Is he eligible for the office that he holds- No he is not by so many different levels that I have stopped counting.
We don't have a choice in the matter, for some reason the people pulling the strings want him and only him in the office.
Originally posted by ausername
reply to post by Asktheanimals
I believe that with Obama winning reelection and beginning his second term, this issue really is a dead horse.
It has been proven, there is nothing that can stop this man... Nothing can or will stop him from fulfilling destiny.
Even if you had undeniable proof, it wound't have any effect.
Good luck.
Originally posted by Bakatono
reply to post by hellobruce
"Bugger voting for them"????
What country are you from exactly?
In everyday British, Canadian, Australian, and New Zealand English the sense of profanity has largely disappeared; the word there now has a 'catch-all', almost humorous quality, not unlike a minced oath.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Originally posted by ausername
reply to post by Asktheanimals
I believe that with Obama winning reelection and beginning his second term, this issue really is a dead horse.
It has been proven, there is nothing that can stop this man... Nothing can or will stop him from fulfilling destiny.
Even if you had undeniable proof, it wound't have any effect.
Good luck.
What do suggest then, just giving up?
Do you not realize the power we the people have if and when we all act together towards a common end? We can restore the Republic the outcome is not set in stone.
If we don't believe in ourselves first we'll never believe in others.
That's where it all starts along with a faith in our founding documents as a nation.
Anything worth living for is worth dying for.