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Republicans don't want to talk about it, but the question is already an awful thought not so far back in their minds: What happens to the G.O.P. if President Bush loses on Nov. 2?
For starters, Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's powerful political adviser, would no longer be called a boy genius, although party insiders insist there would be less blame of him and Mr. Bush than might be expected. Assuming that the party hangs on to the Senate, Bill Frist, the majority leader, would emerge as one of the most important Republicans in the country. So would Senator John McCain of Arizona, Mr. Bush's onetime nemesis. Paul Wolfowitz, the neo-conservative who urged the president into war with Iraq, would not.
But on the central question of whether a loss would shift the party more to the center, Republicans say no. Yes, there would be a huge fight over Iraq. Yes, there would be bigger fault lines between the tax-cutters and deficit hawks. And yes, the party would experience a massive depression as it picked itself up from the loss. But Republicans say that a defeat of Mr. Bush would not usher in a moderate new era.
"I don't think we have to overhaul the Republican party under any circumstance,'' said Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, who is writing a book on America in the 21st century.
"Generally it causes a great soul-searching within the party,'' said David R. Gergen, a professor of public service at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard and a veteran of the Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton White Houses. "I don't think that is going to happen. Conservatives will argue that it's not because of our conservatism that we lost. They'll look for scapegoats on the national security team. They'll say the war was a good idea, it was just poorly executed.''
Republicans agreed that Iraq would be the major post-election fight should Mr. Bush lose, with the neo-conservatives who pushed for the invasion as prime targets. "There will be firing squads and an attempted purge,'' said William Kristol, the editor of the conservative magazine The Weekly Standard and a longtime advocate of the war. "We'll fight back. It'll be fun.''
The Republican official said polling for Bush showed him in a weaker position than some published polls have indicated, both nationally and in battlegrounds. In many of the key states, the official said, Bush is below 50 percent, and he is ahead or behind within the margin of sampling error -- a statistical tie.
"There's just no place where they're polling outside the margin of error so they can say, 'We have this state,' " the official said. "And they know that an incumbent needs to be outside the margin of error."
SOURCES: VP Cheney Predicts on NBCNEWS TODAY SHOW Monday: Election Results Will 52% Bush, 47% Kerry...
Conventional wisdom has long held that the key to winning the presidential election is to take Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
President Bush says it's not so simple.
In an exclusive interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson, airing on "World News Tonight" and "Good Morning America," Bush notes the field of states that could help decide the election may be bigger than casual observers believe.
"I wouldn't discount Michigan," Bush says. "I wouldn't discount the influence of Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota and New Mexico. I think this race is a non-predictable race. I think people like to boil it down to one or two states. I think you're gonna find there's a lot of interesting states � not considered to be in play."
Originally posted by dgtempe
Rant, but wouldnt an attack turn things around for Bush?
Originally posted by RANT
And I'm dreaming of a Blue Arkansas.
Originally posted by Amuk
Originally posted by RANT
And I'm dreaming of a Blue Arkansas.
In the two counties where me and my daughter live we have got a lot of people to vote Libertarian, it will not change the election but its a start. We done it by appealing to the Hispanic vote and the college vote. If things go well within a couple elections Northwest Arkansas will be Libertarian
Originally posted by RANT
. Are you that invisible to the GOP? Maybe it's just wishful thinking on their part. Cover eyes and ears and pretend everything's okay. Never retool. Never compromise. Full extreme ahead.
They deserve this loss. Big time.
Originally posted by slank
My honest thought is Bush will win. *snip* More Corporate blood sucking, more degradation for the American worker and employment prospects, more erosion of confidence in the Dollar and American economy, more sliding into a religious, police state government.